HQPlayer Linux Desktop and HQplayer embedded

[Miska]

2 hours ago, maya said:

So how is this  30% decrease in CPU usage coming from ?

Surely from the latest  4.22.0-62 build,  but even when ROCm packages installed but Not enabled ?

 

Different build...

 

4.22.0-61 requires ROCm libraries to be installed since it has support for ROCm. 4.22.0-62amd doesn't have ROCm support, but good that you mentioned and I made packaging mistake and accidentally left the package requirements there.

 

Have you compared how the 4.22.0-61 Focal build (ROCm and CUDA enabled) performs for you vs 4.22.0-62amd (no GPU support)?

 

[maya]

2 hours ago, Miska said:

 

Different build...

 

4.22.0-61 requires ROCm libraries to be installed since it has support for ROCm. 4.22.0-62amd doesn't have ROCm support, but good that you mentioned and I made packaging mistake and accidentally left the package requirements there.

 

Have you compared how the 4.22.0-61 Focal build (ROCm and CUDA enabled) performs for you vs 4.22.0-62amd (no GPU support)?

 

Hi Jessi,

To install focal 4.21.0-60 onto Debian 11 must install rocm libs first.

I used a device with Focal HQPe 4.21.0-60 installed and upgrade it to Focal HQPe 4.22.0-61 <85 MB>

Then play DSD128 7EC extra 

Its CPU % is the same, around 45 %.

 

Previously I did below upgrading steps:

Focal 4.21.0-60 which needs ROCm libs installation, a very painful and confusing process--> Focal 4.22.0_61-->Focal 4.22.0-62

Since focal 4.21.0-60, i7 8700 can play DSD128 7ECext2 at 45% It also can play DSD256 7ECext2 at 90%.

Focal 4.19 can only play DSD128 7ECext2

 

 

 

 

[stefano_mbp]

@Miska ... I open again the question on upnp gapless issue.

supposing to start from scratch and wanting to use HQPlayer Embedded as an upnp renderer, NAA as output, with MinimServer transcoding Alac to wave keeping the same original resolution, and upsampling pcm to dsd256 max, is there a suggested hw configuration that could guarantee no issues with gapless?

 

[maya]

3 hours ago, maya said:

Hi Jessi,

To install focal 4.21.0-60 onto Debian 11 must install rocm libs first.

I used a device with Focal HQPe 4.21.0-60 installed and upgrade it to Focal HQPe 4.22.0-61 <85 MB>

Then play DSD128 7EC extra 

Its CPU % is the same, around 45 %.

 

Previously I did below upgrading steps:

Focal 4.21.0-60 which needs ROCm libs installation, a very painful and confusing process--> Focal 4.22.0_61-->Focal 4.22.0-62

Since focal 4.21.0-60, i7 8700 can play DSD128 7ECext2 at 45% It also can play DSD256 7ECext2 at 90%.

Focal 4.19 can only play DSD128 7ECext2

 

 

 

 

Jussi,

Sorry for the typo

[djn04]

I think I know the answer here, but is it possible to convert a desktop license into an embedded license?

[maya]

16 hours ago, Miska said:

 

Different build...

 

4.22.0-61 requires ROCm libraries to be installed since it has support for ROCm. 4.22.0-62amd doesn't have ROCm support, but good that you mentioned and I made packaging mistake and accidentally left the package requirements there.

 

Have you compared how the 4.22.0-61 Focal build (ROCm and CUDA enabled) performs for you vs 4.22.0-62amd (no GPU support)?

 

This is

Debian 11 Focal 4.19.0-60-->

Buster 4.22.0-61 Done then -->

Focal 4.22.0-62 then lots dependencies missing, the toughest are rocm related.

I wonder if under Ubuntu OS  to install focal 4.22.0-62 one still needs to install rocm libraries ?

 

 

[maya]

18 hours ago, Miska said:

 

Different build...

 

4.22.0-61 requires ROCm libraries to be installed since it has support for ROCm. 4.22.0-62amd doesn't have ROCm support, but good that you mentioned and I made packaging mistake and accidentally left the package requirements there.

 

Have you compared how the 4.22.0-61 Focal build (ROCm and CUDA enabled) performs for you vs 4.22.0-62amd (no GPU support)?

 

i7 8700 Debian 11,  custom 5.7 Kernel playing DSD256 7ECext2 at less than 90% under HOPe focal 4.22.0-62

Great Sound !

 

 

[maya]

23 hours ago, Miska said:

 

Different build...

 

4.22.0-61 requires ROCm libraries to be installed since it has support for ROCm. 4.22.0-62amd doesn't have ROCm support, but good that you mentioned and I made packaging mistake and accidentally left the package requirements there.

 

Have you compared how the 4.22.0-61 Focal build (ROCm and CUDA enabled) performs for you vs 4.22.0-62amd (no GPU support)?

 

Hi Jussi,

 

Will a new version of 4.22.0-62amd without supporting ROCm be available later ?

 

Thanks

[maya]

20 hours ago, maya said:

Hi Jussi,

 

Will a new version of 4.22.0-62amd without supporting ROCm be available later ?

 

Thanks

Install focal HQPe 4.22.1 with my Debian 11 System 

Then tried sinc S M L 

sinc L failed to do DSD256 7EC with a long pause , If PCM then OK 

sinc-S and M are OK.

 

 

[maya]

On 2/15/2021 at 4:29 PM, Rune said:

To me that sounds very optimistic, but maybe you can do DSD512 Sinc-L which will also be a milestone.😎

Yes,

But my Debian 11 focal HOPe 4.22.1  with ROCm installed can do RAMBOOT,  with which  all OS will be loaded  into RAM so its effect is not so obvious. 

[guiltyboxswapper]

That DSP cache really works for poly-sinc-xtr-mp (DSD512 rates)- on a ryzen 3900x (at 3.8ghz) it also looks like 30%+ reduction in CPU usage.  Nice work indeed.

[lmitche]

5 hours ago, guiltyboxswapper said:

That DSP cache really works for poly-sinc-xtr-mp (DSD512 rates)- on a ryzen 3900x (at 3.8ghz) it also looks like 30%+ reduction in CPU usage.  Nice work indeed.

I missed it. What DSP cache?

[maya]

54 minutes ago, lmitche said:

I missed it. What DSP cache?

HQPe 4.22.1

[Outlaw]

Is the latest build HQPlayer embedded focal only for amd ?

[maya]

11 hours ago, guiltyboxswapper said:

That DSP cache really works for poly-sinc-xtr-mp (DSD512 rates)- on a ryzen 3900x (at 3.8ghz) it also looks like 30%+ reduction in CPU usage.  Nice work indeed.

 

Hi guiltyboxswapper,

 

Are you using Ubuntu focal 4.22.1 HQPe under Ubuntu distro  ?

When installing , does it need to install rocm-dkms or other rocm packages ?

 

I am running Ubuntu focal 4.22.1 HQPe under Debian 11, it needs to install rocm-libs package etc before it can be done.

I found there is nearly 30% drop in Intel CPU usage since focal 4.21 HQPe.

 

Great job done by Jussi !

 

Thanks

[guiltyboxswapper]

1 hour ago, maya said:

Are you using Ubuntu focal 4.22.1 HQPe under Ubuntu distro  ?

When installing , does it need to install rocm-dkms or other rocm packages ?

 

AudioLinux (arch).

[hifi25nl]

In Audiolinux a version with rocm libraries is available on request.

Installation of all packages is automatic from Audiolinux new repository.

[maya]

13 minutes ago, guiltyboxswapper said:

AudioLinux (arch).

I see

[maya]

7 minutes ago, hifi25nl said:

In Audiolinux a version with rocm libraries is available on request.

Installation of all packages is automatic from Audiolinux new repository.

I see thx 

[maya]

2 hours ago, guiltyboxswapper said:

AudioLinux (arch).

Does rocm-dkm been installed ? 

Please check with

sudo dkms status 

Thanks 

[Miska]

10 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Is the latest build HQPlayer embedded focal only for amd ?

 

There are two

 

1) Intel optimized one with support for Nvidia and AMD GPUs and runs also on older CPUs.

2) AMD/(Intel) optimized one that doesn't have support GPUs or older CPUs.

 

Buster and FC33 builds are pretty much equivalent of the (2) now with small OS specific differences.

 

HQPlayer OS is like (1), but without GPU support.

 

[maya]

23 hours ago, guiltyboxswapper said:

That DSP cache really works for poly-sinc-xtr-mp (DSD512 rates)- on a ryzen 3900x (at 3.8ghz) it also looks like 30%+ reduction in CPU usage.  Nice work indeed.

if add an AMD video card what will happen to the CPU usage ?

 

[Miska]

55 minutes ago, maya said:

if add an AMD video card what will happen to the CPU usage ?

 

The filters will be lifted off, but it then depends a lot on the filter selection. Since I run mostly poly-sinc-ext2 the difference wouldn't be really notable.

 

I will see when the AMD GPU arrives some time in future. Seems to be almost impossible to get new GPUs these days, be it Nvidia or AMD.

 

[Outlaw]

10 hours ago, Miska said:

 

There are two

 

1) Intel optimized one with support for Nvidia and AMD GPUs and runs also on older CPUs.

2) AMD/(Intel) optimized one that doesn't have support GPUs or older CPUs.

 

Buster and FC33 builds are pretty much equivalent of the (2) now with small OS specific differences.

 

HQPlayer OS is like (1), but without GPU support.

 

Will the 2nd choice perform better if no GPU involved with a 8086k CPU

[Rune]

10 hours ago, Miska said:

 

There are two

 

1) Intel optimized one with support for Nvidia and AMD GPUs and runs also on older CPUs.

2) AMD/(Intel) optimized one that doesn't have support GPUs or older CPUs.

 

Buster and FC33 builds are pretty much equivalent of the (2) now with small OS specific differences.

 

HQPlayer OS is like (1), but without GPU support.

 

Are there any option for AMD optimized with Nvidia?