MQA is Vaporware

[firedog]

7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Lee, we are not going down the same road again. You are a hammer and mQa is your nail. You’re trying to rewrite history again. 
 

Time for you to go. Again. 

Wait, on the "reinstated" thread, I predicted he'd get himself banned again. Had he already done so before I posted?  If so, that's amazing. He couldn't manage to control himself even for a day? We should have some sort of award in his name here, sort of like "The Darwin Awards". We can call it "The Scroggins Award", for those who last a day or less. 
 

[botrytis]

@firedog It is called Cognitive Dissonance and Belief Perseverance

 

Double Down Theory

 

Denying Facts

 

A great example is 'The Big Lie' in US Politics. There are no facts to back up 'The Big Lie', but people believe it and double down on their believes even though they have been shown facts that is not true. 

[Samuel T Cogley]

14 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Lee, we are not going down the same road again. You are a hammer and mQa is your nail. You’re trying to rewrite history again. 
 

Time for you to go. Again. 

 

I can't imagine what Scoggins could have said to you over the phone to make you believe he'd changed somehow.  With all due respect (and I mean that), he totally played you.

 

But what's more unbelievable to me is he now posts as the Chief Executive Officer at Nextscreen, LLC and somehow he still doesn't feel any need to dial back the disingenuousness.

 

This makes me really question the integrity of the publications under his control.

 

[MikeyFresh]

8 hours ago, Archimago said:

Amazing that he's in "leadership" and develops "strategy" for TAS and Hi-Fi+!

Beyond amazing, and indicative of a poor vetting of his résumé.

 

8 hours ago, Archimago said:

Surely, holding it together and having the self-control to know how to respond diplomatically should be within the basic skill set of the president of a publishing company; or at least I would have thought.

That's a very reasonable expectation, and one that also would have been appropriate for the MQA cadre that rudely derailed Chris' MQA talk at RMAF some years ago. Lee was cozied up right there next to Jbara for that one, with his attack-dog buddy Forsythe strategically deployed across on the other side of the room. Brilliant planning and execution there, as Lee saw it, they all 3 came away looking good (in some alternative universe).

 

[MikeyFresh]

6 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

But what's more unbelievable to me is he now posts as the Chief Executive Officer at Nextscreen, LLC and somehow he still doesn't feel any need to dial back the disingenuousness.

That was unbelievable, though he did not add his recent industry affiliation to his signature, so for the uninitiated it wasn't even entirely clear who Lee Scoggins is (was).

 

7 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

This makes me really question the integrity of the publications under his control.

Ditto (queue the obligatory ARQ drive-by).

[botrytis]

Ignoring the past means repeating it at some time, and also past behavior is indicative of future behavior.

[Samuel T Cogley]

Just now, MikeyFresh said:

That was unbelievable, though he did not add his recent industry affiliation to his signature, so for the uninitiated it wasn't even entirely clear who Lee Scoggins is (was).

 

Ditto (queue the obligatory ARQ drive-by).

 

Oh yes, Quint will arrive soon complaining about the "anti-MQA partisans" fowling the forum and making it a terrible place for reasonable people like him.

[botrytis]

Gents. You will not change their minds. They believe what they have been told, so we just need to not support their magazines, etc. Remember, WE the audiophiles, are their product to the Audio Manufacturers. 

[JoeWhip]

Yes, I dropped AS a few years ago. Do not miss it. Stereophile is so cheap via sub that I keep it but really shouldn’t as I do not read much of it unlike years past. I wish the ability for self introspection or self scouting to use NFL jargon, was more of a common thing in the world, especially on the Interwebs.

[botrytis]

5 minutes ago, JoeWhip said:

Yes, I dropped AS a few years ago. Do not miss it. Stereophile is so cheap via sub that I keep it but really shouldn’t as I do not read much of it unlike years past. I wish the ability for self introspection or self scouting to use NFL jargon, was more of a common thing in the world, especially on the Interwebs.

 

Well, I learned this by taking Philosophy and psychology courses during my under grad work.

 

People aren't taught critical thinking which should be taught to EVERYONE.

[The Computer Audiophile]

52 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

I can't imagine what Scoggins could have said to you over the phone to make you believe he'd changed somehow.  With all due respect (and I mean that), he totally played you.

 

I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

[botrytis]

9 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

 

As I said, past behavior is indicative of future behavior. I get why you did it. 

[Archimago]

1 hour ago, MikeyFresh said:

Beyond amazing, and indicative of a poor vetting of his résumé.

 

That's a very reasonable expectation, and one that also would have been appropriate for the MQA cadre that rudely derailed Chris' MQA talk at RMAF some years ago. Lee was cozied up right there next to Jbara for that one, with his attack-dog buddy Forsythe strategically deployed across on the other side of the room. Brilliant planning and execution there, as Lee saw it, they all 3 came away looking good (in some alternative universe).

 

I stumbled on this video a few months ago (not recommended viewing). The nature of this interaction is quite clear. This is a man who is the buddy of the "high-end". It's about making relationships, creating markets, expanding advertising revenue. Hype appears to be his currency of interaction because he seems to have neither common sense nor data; everything from the "quantum physics" of Ted Denney and Synergistic Research... To the belief that AQ Diamond ethernet cables can improve the video of his Samsung TV (improved Netflix streaming or something!?). There is no snake oil too fraudulent or manufacturer claim too impossible to believe that this man is unwilling to sign up to sell apparently. How sad and meaningless...

 

As we have seen here or at RMAF2018, this is a man who is a shameless salesman willing to say and do whatever it takes to be with (apparently at times physically) the "in" crowd; truth, honesty, integrity, objectivity be damned!

 

Maybe being back here and doing all this is just a performance for his buddies that he's a bulldog willing to fight and never compromise? Something he can add to the CV as another example of his loyalty?

 

As consumers, I think this imbalance in the relationship just doesn't look good and should be yet another warning about the underlying purposes and biases of TAS and Hi-Fi+ when this is how the "top" (CEO of Nextscreen, LLC) leadership behaves.

 

Thankfully, I don't have a subscription to TAS. Certainly this kind of behaviour would have immediately resulted in cancellation.

[kumakuma]

31 minutes ago, botrytis said:

 

As I said, past behavior is indicative of future behavior.

 

I'm reminded of the story of the scorpion and the frog. Some people just can't help themselves...

 

 

[Kimo]

2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

 

You need to get scam alert updated on your phone.

[botrytis]

28 minutes ago, Kimo said:

 

You need to get scam alert updated on your phone.

 

I bet Lee said he wouldn't get into anything, and Chris, like any Gentleman, took Lee at his word. I get it.

[JoeWhip]

Just wondering, but does Chris get combat pay for dealing with this stuff?

[botrytis]

Part and parcel of running a forum.

[KeenObserver]

Does anyone know the status of MQA Ltd?

I know in their last financial posting they stated that they have received funding to keep them going until 2013.

Have they been active? Are they still pushing the party line?

I think most of the people that are knowledgeable of such things are aware that this was just a money grab, but there are some hard core believers out there.

The last time I thought that MQA was dieing Warner Music dumped their catalog onto Tidal.

Does anyone think that the majors still expect to foist this misbegotten scheme on the music consumer?

[The Computer Audiophile]

11 minutes ago, KeenObserver said:

Does anyone know the status of MQA Ltd?

I know in their last financial posting they stated that they have received funding to keep them going until 2013.

Have they been active? Are they still pushing the party line?

I think most of the people that are knowledgeable of such things are aware that this was just a money grab, but there are some hard core believers out there.

The last time I thought that MQA was dieing Warner Music dumped their catalog onto Tidal.

Does anyone think that the majors still expect to foist this misbegotten scheme on the music consumer?

Given the push for AR, VR, and immersive formats, I’d say the appetite by the majors for mQa can’t be good. Would be interesting to know how long the labels are contractually bound to mQa. 

[botrytis]

54 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Given the push for AR, VR, and immersive formats, I’d say the appetite by the majors for mQa can’t be good. Would be interesting to know how long the labels are contractually bound to mQa. 

 

I wonder how long for the vultures to start circling to pick the bones or are just going to sink and disappear w/o any noise. 

[Archimago]

2 hours ago, botrytis said:

I wonder how long for the vultures to start circling to pick the bones or are just going to sink and disappear w/o any noise. 

 

Don't know if there's any meat for the vultures to pay attention to even. Maybe someone might want the lossy encoding algorithm?

 

I suspect it'll just disappear without any fanfare (other than us here noticing maybe). One day, the Twitter and Facebook feed just stops perhaps...

[firedog]

4 hours ago, Archimago said:

 

Don't know if there's any meat for the vultures to pay attention to even. Maybe someone might want the lossy encoding algorithm?

 

I suspect it'll just disappear without any fanfare (other than us here noticing maybe). One day, the Twitter and Facebook feed just stops perhaps...

Yeah, who would notice except for a small subset of Tidal subscribers? 

[KeenObserver]

2023 not 2013

[Samuel T Cogley]

That witch ain't dead just yet.  You anti-mQa partisans should be ashamed 🙂