jtwrace Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, mozes said: I am surprised that so far I haven't seen much coverage or reviews of the Manhattan II I agree. Strange. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
m5sime Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Hi everyone.. I have had my Brooklyn for over a year and decided to finally invest in a LPSU to test and see whether I get sonic improvements from this in my setup. I looked at the various options from MCRU, Booster etc. The PSU is from China and being modified from a new spec replacing one that on other forums I have seen that people had purchased and commented very positively about the specification of the PSU. If anyone is interested the PSU has an updated rectification and smoothing board and circuit and I requested an R-Core transformer to be added. It looks like mine is now available on eBay as a finished item (I assume it was the first as I had to request the modification). If anyone is interested, I will be happy to provide feedback on it's use when it arrives and has had time to soak in. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-mirror-style-100VA-R-core-Ultra-Low-Noise-Linear-Power-supply-DC-5V-30V/132158047595?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D0401b1f48d0d469fad2676c9da13b65e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D131918257571 Simon mozes 1 Link to comment
intensemojo Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Still a good buy with the 9038 out? Link to comment
jtwrace Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, intensemojo said: Still a good buy with the 9038 out? What's a 9038? W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
rickca Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 hours ago, jtwrace said: What's a 9038? I'm pretty sure the reference is to the ES9038PRO http://www.esstech.com/index.php?cID=360 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
m5sime Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 4 hours ago, rickca said: I'm pretty sure the reference is to the ES9038PRO http://www.esstech.com/index.php?cID=360 I am no deep level expert but having reviewed the specs (9038 PRO vs 9018) (-122dB THD+N vs -120dB), added HW features like DSD over DoP (which many DACs have built externally), plus a few comments from designers I have seen that discuss that the vast majority of the DAC performance/differentiation is the surrounding electronics (and especially the analogue parts) then I am not inclined to rush to change. The Manhattan II uses this new ESS DAC chip and of course there will be a Brooklyn II that will use this chip as well given Mytek have integrated it on the flagship model, and it will be a needed bullet on the selling data sheet. There will be many of course that the latest chip means a new purchase. In an era of software evolvable feature sets the likes of Chord with FPGA approaches make sense. intensemojo 1 Link to comment
anroj Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 2:43 PM, lmitche said: Anroj, how are you connecting and powering the IFI? I am using a Wireworld Starlight 3.0 USB cable from my W4S RUR, that is powered by my HDPLEX 300, into the iDSD BL. Link to comment
lmitche Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, anroj said: I am using a Wireworld Starlight 3.0 USB cable from my W4S RUR, that is powered by my HDPLEX 300, into the iDSD BL. Anroj, Get a LPS-1 and ISO-REGEN combo, when available, to power and clean the signal to your IFI BL. You'll be amazed at how good the IFI can sound! Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
anroj Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 hours ago, lmitche said: Anroj, Get a LPS-1 and ISO-REGEN combo, when available, to power and clean the signal to your IFI BL. You'll be amazed at how good the IFI can sound! I'm actually saving up for a T+A DAC 8 DSD or Holo Spring DAC Kitsune Edition. Link to comment
lmitche Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Both the T+A DAC 8 DSD and HOLO Spring DACs will benefit from an LPS-1 ISO-REGEN combo. I've had a T+A DAC 8 DSD here several times for many weeks at a time, and am always surprised at how well the IFI/LPS-1 combo does against it. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
ted_b Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Larry, where/how is the LPS-1 being used in an iFi dac setup? "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
jamesg11 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, ted_b said: Larry, where/how is the LPS-1 being used in an iFi dac setup? Ditto ... how does this setup go? macmini M1>ethernet / elgar iso tran(2.5kVa, .0005pfd)>consonance pw-3 boards>ghent ethernet(et linkway cat8 jssg360)>etherRegen(js-2)>ghent ethernet(et linkway cat8 jssg360) >ultraRendu (clones lpsu>lps1.2)>curious regen link>rme adi-2 dac(js-2)>cawsey cables>naquadria sp2 passive pre> 1.naquadria lucien mkII.5 power>elac fs249be + elac 4pi plus.2> 2.perreaux9000b(mods)>2x naquadria 12” passive subs. Link to comment
anroj Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 That is high praise, indeed. How are you using the LPS-1 with the iFi? Link to comment
lmitche Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, anroj said: That is high praise, indeed. How are you using the LPS-1 with the iFi? Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
anroj Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Nice setup. May I ask where you got the adapter? Link to comment
lmitche Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 44 minutes ago, anroj said: Nice setup. May I ask where you got the adapter? Which adapter, there are several? Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
diver110 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I recently bought the Brooklyn. While I have had some troubles with the Mytek drivers (see other posts), I like the DAC a lot. I am also a fan of MQA. I know some people think it is all hocus pocus, but to my ears MQA really makes a difference. When I have a little more time in, I will post a more formal review. Link to comment
lmitche Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, anroj said: LPS-1 to iFi. Everything came from Amazon. I'll see if I can dig up the product pages. Stay tuned. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
57gold Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Lmitche - What are all those interconnected little boxes? Tone with Soul Link to comment
anroj Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, lmitche said: Everything came from Amazon. I'll see if I can dig up the product pages. Stay tuned. Awesome! Thank you. Link to comment
lmitche Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, anroj said: Awesome! Thank you. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QHL2PTA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G0Q4B7A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZQEIJE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The usb cable was modified by pulling pin one from the data side, and taping the shield. I expect to replace this investment of ~$15 with an ISO-REGEN and 2 USPCBs.shortly! Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
m5sime Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 On 19/04/2017 at 6:31 PM, m5sime said: Hi everyone.. I have had my Brooklyn for over a year and decided to finally invest in a LPSU to test and see whether I get sonic improvements from this in my setup. I looked at the various options from MCRU, Booster etc. The PSU is from China and being modified from a new spec replacing one that on other forums I have seen that people had purchased and commented very positively about the specification of the PSU. If anyone is interested the PSU has an updated rectification and smoothing board and circuit and I requested an R-Core transformer to be added. Simon Hi! My PSU arrived and I have been doing some tests with the Brooklyn. Its early days, but bass on tracks is less bloated and driving less room effects in my setup. I guess I need to work out how to listen for the improvements more, and also allow the PSU to break-in some more. The quality is pretty good. There was a strong chemical (paint) smell which is going away and the build overall is good (for the price). If anyone can share experiences of an outboard PSU and things you heard A/B tested against the onboard switch-mode PSU I would be really grateful. Link to comment
JerryS Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 4 hours ago, m5sime said: If anyone can share experiences of an outboard PSU and things you heard A/B tested against the onboard switch-mode PSU I would be really grateful. I am using this eBay-sourced 100 VA PS with my Brooklyn. The Brooklyn is a good ~$2000 DAC, until you add a decent external power supply. Then it becomes a great DAC that can hold its own against probably anything below $10k. With an external power supply, every sound becomes completely pure and resolution increases. Phenomenal! The Brooklyn's built in power supply is a very small switching unit. The Brooklyn's sound is coarse and just average, just a little better than an Auralic Vega. With the external linear PS, oh my, the entire upper frequency range loses this coarseness, the soundstage gets much more specific and bigger, and the bass is better defined. IMO, used without an external poser supply, the Brooklyn belongs in Stereophile Class B. With a good linear supply, Class A is fully appropriate. I have a good analog rig - http://www.10audio.com/references.htm - but am very content to listen to the Brooklyn with external PS. In fact, my own 24/192 recordings of my LPs sound very similar to the LP itself. Happy listening! Regards, JerryS m5sime 1 Link to comment
m5sime Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, JerryS said: I am using this eBay-sourced 100 VA PS with my Brooklyn. The Brooklyn is a good ~$2000 DAC, until you add a decent external power supply. Then it becomes a great DAC that can hold its own against probably anything below $10k. With an external power supply, every sound becomes completely pure and resolution increases. Phenomenal! Thank you Jerry! I am going to do more A/B tests and listen to the differences it makes. Your PSU looks similar to the one I have (regulation circuit is different but same R-Core transformer). Link to comment
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