JPLAY for iOS

[Easterman]

Do you have any plans to offer support for more streaming services?

I would love to see support for Apple Music as it has some music not available elsewhere.

I have Tidal and Qobuz, both no longer have for example Macy Gray : Stripped, an excellent album! And it is available on Apple Music which I also subscribe to, to be able to listen to those albums.

 

I could enable Airplay on my moOde 7.6 installation, but last time I tried that, it ended up with Jplay not being able to play to moode after having finished Airplay.

 

I have just updated to moOde 8.2.5, but I am having the same incompatibility with Jplay, I need to restart the moOde instance after Airplaying to be able to get Jplay to successfully stream to it again.

Jplay skips the songs, and I can see the “handshake” on my Metrum DAC is blinking like mad, trying to get a proper “handshake”. Knowing this, I dont Airplay anymore.

It was not a problem before I switched to Jplay when I used BubbleUPNP Server. I could Airplay or play via any steaming app to moOde, switching between them no problem. To be able to have Apple Music in the Jplay app would therefore be nice, and maybe solve the problem I hope.

 

Keep up the excellent work!

 

 

[ericcatz]

10 hours ago, Easterman said:

Do you have any plans to offer support for more streaming services?

I would love to see support for Apple Music as it has some music not available elsewhere.

I have Tidal and Qobuz, both no longer have for example Macy Gray : Stripped, an excellent album! And it is available on Apple Music which I also subscribe to, to be able to listen to those albums.

 

I could enable Airplay on my moOde 7.6 installation, but last time I tried that, it ended up with Jplay not being able to play to moode after having finished Airplay.

 

I have just updated to moOde 8.2.5, but I am having the same incompatibility with Jplay, I need to restart the moOde instance after Airplaying to be able to get Jplay to successfully stream to it again.

Jplay skips the songs, and I can see the “handshake” on my Metrum DAC is blinking like mad, trying to get a proper “handshake”. Knowing this, I dont Airplay anymore.

It was not a problem before I switched to Jplay when I used BubbleUPNP Server. I could Airplay or play via any steaming app to moOde, switching between them no problem. To be able to have Apple Music in the Jplay app would therefore be nice, and maybe solve the problem I hope.

 

Keep up the excellent work!

 

 

The new version of moOde has changed the setting method of setting UPnP renderer in the past,

Now to enable the UPnP/DLNA renderer function, in the DLNA media server option,

Click the (DLNA database) REBUILD button,

At the same time refresh the Audio out of Jplay,

This will display the moOde UPnP renderer in Jplay

ericcatz

[Marcin_gps]

On 2/7/2023 at 6:12 PM, Easterman said:

Do you have any plans to offer support for more streaming services?

I would love to see support for Apple Music as it has some music not available elsewhere.

I have Tidal and Qobuz, both no longer have for example Macy Gray : Stripped, an excellent album! And it is available on Apple Music which I also subscribe to, to be able to listen to those albums.

 

I could enable Airplay on my moOde 7.6 installation, but last time I tried that, it ended up with Jplay not being able to play to moode after having finished Airplay.

 

I have just updated to moOde 8.2.5, but I am having the same incompatibility with Jplay, I need to restart the moOde instance after Airplaying to be able to get Jplay to successfully stream to it again.

Jplay skips the songs, and I can see the “handshake” on my Metrum DAC is blinking like mad, trying to get a proper “handshake”. Knowing this, I dont Airplay anymore.

It was not a problem before I switched to Jplay when I used BubbleUPNP Server. I could Airplay or play via any steaming app to moOde, switching between them no problem. To be able to have Apple Music in the Jplay app would therefore be nice, and maybe solve the problem I hope.

 

Keep up the excellent work!

 

 

 Apple Music does not seem to allow playing tracks to UPnP renderers.

 

I will look into why there is a need to restart moode after playing airplay.

[sjj]

 

On 2/3/2023 at 1:18 PM, sjj said:

I discovered the issue with Moode is related to a UPNP option labeled Check Content. If set to Yes, I get the JPlay Error sending action to renderer. If set to No JPlay works and music plays. The description of this UPNP option in Moode is “Check that the input format is supported. Set this option to No if a control point or media server sends good audio data with bad metadata.”. I did notice now when playing music from JPlay that if I open Moode the Album cover and all related info such as track, album name, song name, bit info…is all set to Unknown. JPlay version 1.07 didn’t have this problem and I didn’t need to set this option in Moode to No and all related song info in Moode was displayed correctly.

@Marcin_gps @mnuno10  Just installed version 1.09 and it fixed my issue as mentioned above. Thanks

[Easterman]

I also just downloaded version 1.09 - and it works as before.

 

I then adjusted moOde 8.2.5 to again “Check Content” in UPnP Settings, and 1.09 works as it should - Great!

 

Regarding the Airplay issue, I tried with mConnect, and that plays ok, Jplay does not start after an Airplay 2 session, and the “handshake light” flashes

However I just changed moOde Airplay:

Resume MPD to Yes, Airplay Settings : Session Interrupt:Yes, Session Timeout:5 seconds. (This was at default 2 minutes, and I did not let Jplay try to handshake for 120 seconds, I rebooted long before that) 

Those new Settings causes MPD to resume playback 5 seconds after Airplay is finished, and my last played track in Jplay starts again, and moOde is available again for streaming from Jplay. 

[Marcin_gps]

That's great to hear - thanks for the report!

[Easterman]

I must admit I love this app more and more..

 

I use it all day, and it is my only player now. But what really is the icing on the cake for me is that it allows to play streaming locally on my iPad or iPhone to external dac as well. One GUI for all my listening, great. Listening now late at night with my AudioQuest Nighthawks and recently aquired Chord Mojo connected to iPad or iPhone and Qobuz is great fun, and the sound is really really good with this combo, it makes the feet tap.

 

Best regards

[One and a half]

Problem with Radio..

 

After playing the third track from radio, the roulette spins forever where the large play button is. to reset, jplay is switch off and restarted. Where to switch off radio again?

<edit> found it by swiping right on the mini player. Switching off and see what happens.

 

[One and a half]

On 2/14/2023 at 7:30 PM, One and a half said:

Problem with Radio..

 

After playing the third track from radio, the roulette spins forever where the large play button is. to reset, jplay is switch off and restarted. Where to switch off radio again?

<edit> found it by swiping right on the mini player. Switching off and see what happens.

 

Switching radio off, the album ends and stops. Though the last track is stopped, but consistently the progress indicator shows 50% complete on the lock screen on Ipad.

[m_j_s]

Just wondering if it is possible to use JPLAY with a Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC presumably via its network input. 

[stefano_mbp]

10 minutes ago, m_j_s said:

Just wondering if it is possible to use JPLAY with a Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC presumably via its network input. 

Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that Mola Mola Tambaqui can do UPNP, it’s Roon only

[m_j_s]

2 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that Mola Mola Tambaqui can do UPNP, it’s Roon only

That's what I thought pretty much

[steveoat]

Marcin,

 

I am having an issue with JPlay IOS and connecting with HQPlayer embedded.  JPlay sees my HQPlayer embedded, but I keep getting the following error:  "Error sending action to renderer".  My Lumin player is working fine.  Any suggestions on how to fix this problem with HQPlayer embedded?

[Mike Rubin]

44 minutes ago, steveoat said:

Marcin,

 

I am having an issue with JPlay IOS and connecting with HQPlayer embedded.  JPlay sees my HQPlayer embedded, but I keep getting the following error:  "Error sending action to renderer".  My Lumin player is working fine.  Any suggestions on how to fix this problem with HQPlayer embedded?

I also get this message sometimes. Restarting HQPe and then having JPlay search for it again usually resolves that issue, but, when it doesn't, I drop JPlay out of the loop and play directly from the server app, which usually can find a and stream to HQPe even when JPlay cannot. 

 

The problem with JPlay usually solves itself by my next listening session, so I have assumed that the erratic began up behavior has more to do with my state of the network than JPlay itself, but that isn't the only possible explanation when the servers can reach HQPe either directly from the PC or through their controller apps. If they cannot, however, I the have to restart everything in the chain - PC software, renderer software, controller apps, and, if all that fails, the hardware. 

 

The days of putting it CD in the tray, checking the input to be sure it is the right one, and pressing "play" are long gone. 

[steveoat]

3 minutes ago, Mike Rubin said:

I also get this message sometimes. Restarting HQPe and then having JPlay search for it again usually resolves that issue, but, when it doesn't, I drop JPlay out of the loop and play directly from the server app, which usually can find a and stream to HQPe even when JPlay cannot. 

 

The problem with JPlay usually solves itself by my next listening session, so I have assumed that the erratic began up behavior has more to do with my state of the network than JPlay itself, but that isn't the only possible explanation when the servers can reach HQPe either directly from the PC or through their controller apps. If they cannot, however, I the have to restart everything in the chain - PC software, renderer software, controller apps, and, if all that fails, the hardware. 

 

The days of putting it CD in the tray, checking the input to be sure it is the right one, and pressing "play" are long gone. 

Mike,

 

Thanks for responding.  What's weird is that I am having the same issue with Audirvana Studio using HQPe.  No problems with Roon and other UPNP devices like Lumin work perfectly with JPlay.  This stuff makes me nuts!!

[Mike Rubin]

8 minutes ago, steveoat said:

Mike,

 

Thanks for responding.  What's weird is that I am having the same issue with Audirvana Studio using HQPe.  No problems with Roon and other UPNP devices like Lumin work perfectly with JPlay.  This stuff makes me nuts!!

Yes, I just saw your posts regarding Audirvana and was going to post here that I went through a similar phase yesterday with JPlay and Audirvana both, as well as JRiver. Making sure that HQPlayer.local had the 8088 port address added and then restarting all software and hardware eventually solved the issue, so I assume this particular instance was a network issue. That said, I had recurring access issues with JPlay and not the others afterwards. 

[steveoat]

3 minutes ago, Mike Rubin said:

Yes, I just saw your posts regarding Audirvana and was going to post here that I went through a similar phase yesterday with JPlay and Audirvana both, as well as JPlay. Making sure that HQPlayer.local had the 8088 port address added and then restarting all software and hardware eventually solved the issue, so I assume this particular instance was a network issue. That said, I had recurring access issues with JPlay and not the others afterwards. 

Hi Mike,

 

Tried your suggestions.  Still no luck.  Posted on the JPlay IOS forum as well HQPe forum so hopefully either Marcin or Miska will have some ideas.  Funny how Roon is the only player than works.  Won't even consider trying JRiver.

[stefano_mbp]

2 minutes ago, steveoat said:

Funny how Roon is the only player than works

Roon is not using UPNP … btw … any changes on your network recently? can you try to reboot your router?

[steveoat]

1 minute ago, stefano_mbp said:

Roon is not using UPNP … btw … any changes on your network recently? can you try to reboot your router?

Hi Stefano,'

Recently rebooted router when problems started.  Unfortunately no solutions.

[steveoat]

7 minutes ago, steveoat said:

Hi Mike,

 

Tried your suggestions.  Still no luck.  Posted on the JPlay IOS forum as well HQPe forum so hopefully either Marcin or Miska will have some ideas.  Funny how Roon is the only player than works.  Won't even consider trying JRiver.

Luckily, Audirvana now works with HQPE.  However, no luck with JPlay

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, steveoat said:

Hi Stefano,'

Recently rebooted router when problems started.  Unfortunately no solutions.

… then some gremlins are playing with your network … 😉

[steveoat]

Thanks Stefano and Mike for your help.  Hopefully will get JPlay sorted out eventually.

[Mike Rubin]

33 minutes ago, steveoat said:

Hi Mike,

 

Tried your suggestions.  Still no luck.  Posted on the JPlay IOS forum as well HQPe forum so hopefully either Marcin or Miska will have some ideas.  Funny how Roon is the only player than works.  Won't even consider trying JRiver.

Did you check "Safe Transition Mode" for HQPe in JPlay's settings? That makes a difference, I found. 

[mnuno10]

21 hours ago, steveoat said:

Marcin,

 

I am having an issue with JPlay IOS and connecting with HQPlayer embedded.  JPlay sees my HQPlayer embedded, but I keep getting the following error:  "Error sending action to renderer".  My Lumin player is working fine.  Any suggestions on how to fix this problem with HQPlayer embedded?

Please try with "Safe Transition Mode" on as Mike Rubin suggested.

If that does not work please let me know.

[steveoat]

2 minutes ago, mnuno10 said:

Please try with "Safe Transition Mode" on as Mike Rubin suggested.

If that does not work please let me know.

I tried "Safe Transition Mode" and am still having the same problem.  What else do you suggest I try?