Article: Schiit Show and 2L's Groundbreaking Downloads

[The Computer Audiophile]

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[bbosler]

tempting but I don't understand the pricing

 

• I can buy the 2 discs (a hybrid SACD and a Blu-ray) that have everything except the 24/352.8 files for €24
• it costs more (€28)  to download just  the MKV Atmos and Auro  files that you get on the discs along with a lot more
• the 24/352.8 is a whopping €80

 

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 hour ago, bbosler said:

tempting but I don't understand the pricing

 

• I can buy the 2 discs (a hybrid SACD and a Blu-ray) that have everything except the 24/352.8 files for €24
• it costs more (€28)  to download just  the MKV Atmos and Auro  files that you get on the discs along with a lot more
• the 24/352.8 is a whopping €80

 

 

The cool thing is, you have a choice. Understand it or not, pick the one you want :~)

[joelha]

Here's one businessman's possible explanation:

 

There's a lot more labor to produce a version which will likely sell far fewer units than the other versions as not many people have 12 channel Atmos systems yet. 

 

And, given the considerable price of entry, a lower album price likely won't change the number of prospective customers for now. 

 

If you've invested in the hardware, you're more likely to buy the software. 

 

Joel

[austinpop]

Sorry I am missing you guys in my my home town Austin. I am instead at Lake Quinault, WA, where it’s a balmy high of 72F.

 
 

Enjoy your visit!

[JoeWhip]

I think we will see some interesting new stuff today!

[retro]

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• DXD discrete channels WAV 7.1.4 immersive - This is the holy grail of music playback. I have this version and can say that there's nothing like it on Earth. This consists of 12 channel WAV files for each track, at 24 bit / 352.8 kHz. No decoder required to play these files. As long as one has 12 channels for playback, or wants to downmix them into a different configuration, the WAV files will play. I play this through JRiver and Audirvana, Roon doesn't support these files yet. Below is a screenshot of what this looks like in Audacity :~)

 

Fantastic, but only for Mac, right? No software atm for Win that can handle 8+ channels afaik...??

Jriver, wake up..😉

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 hour ago, retro said:

 

Fantastic, but only for Mac, right? No software atm for Win that can handle 8+ channels afaik...??

Jriver, wake up..😉

I use JRiver on Windows to play this. 

[retro]

20 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I use JRiver on Windows to play this. 

And it plays all 12 channels..? Have they solved the 8+ ch limitation..??

[The Computer Audiophile]

2 minutes ago, retro said:

And it plays all 12 channels..? Have they solved the 8+ ch limitation..??

There is no such limitation now. I never knew there was one previously either. FLAC is limited to 8 channels, without special encoding like Auro, but WAV isn’t. 

[retro]

4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

There is no such limitation now. I never knew there was one previously either. FLAC is limited to 8 channels, without special encoding like Auro, but WAV isn’t.

You're right of-course. It's only a problem with audio and video together in a MKV-container. Then 8+ ch won't work.

 I mixed things up. Again..😎

[Kal Rubinson]

10 hours ago, retro said:

Fantastic, but only for Mac, right? No software atm for Win that can handle 8+ channels afaik...??

Jriver, wake up..😉

Jriver can do 8+ channels with the proper hardware.  The channel selection drop-down lists formats up to 40 channels.  Why do you think it is restricted?

[Kal Rubinson]

8 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

There is no such limitation now. I never knew there was one previously either. FLAC is limited to 8 channels, without special encoding like Auro, but WAV isn’t. 

I have 40 channel files in WAV and in DSF, fwiw.

[retro]

39 minutes ago, Kal Rubinson said:

Jriver can do 8+ channels with the proper hardware.  The channel selection drop-down lists formats up to 40 channels.  Why do you think it is restricted?

It actually is. Not for audio-only files, the play fine. But a mkv-container with both video and 8+ ch audio will not play and gives an error message. @El Guapomade a couple of Atmos decoded 12ch mkv's which I posted links to on JRivers forum. They do not play under Win, but work on Mac and Linux. Hendrik is aware of the problem, so it's likely a LAV-decoder issue. Didn't seem to put it on top of his list though.. 

 

Check these threads on Interact. Feel free to bump them to get Hendrik's attention.

 

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,132607.0.html

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,132865.0.html

[Kal Rubinson]

14 hours ago, retro said:

It actually is. Not for audio-only files, the play fine.

OK but that proviso was not in the statement to which I responded.

Thank you for revealing that distinction and providing the links.

[The Computer Audiophile]

Loved this amp with Sennheiser HD800s!

 

[JoeWhip]

I agree. Sounded great. So did the Bifrost2/64. If get into headphones one day, I will get that DAC and the Lyr 3 which can be used without a toob. The Folkvanger gets pretty hot.

[JoeWhip]

Sorry, Lyr +

[DigiPete]

I always bought the disks from 2L, ripped it an enjoyed access to all those formats.
It always baffled me, that a download (of all the same files as on the disk(s) ) would cost vastly more.

I just buy a stack of disks at a time and rip and save the entire ISO as well as the file formats interesting to me atm.


Oh, and go to 2L shop