Josh Mound Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 View full article 🔊 The Best Version Of... 🎧 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Wow @JoshM! Where to begin? This is one of those albums I purchased just because. I heard it was good and I saw an HDAD version at Acoustic Sounds back in the day. This is the only version I've ever listened to because I've loved it so much over the years. Until now, I really knew nothing about Muddy or the album. I just new I loved the music and the sound. Now, I love it even more! This info is amazing. I must find the MFSL version! Thanks so much Josh. Incredible! Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post Josh Mound Posted June 30, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Wow @JoshM! Where to begin? This is one of those albums I purchased just because. I heard it was good and I saw an HDAD version at Acoustic Sounds back in the day. This is the only version I've ever listened to because I've loved it so much over the years. Until now, I really knew nothing about Muddy or the album. I just new I loved the music and the sound. Now, I love it even more! This info is amazing. I must find the MFSL version! Thanks so much Josh. Incredible! I’ll have to take a photo of all of the discs I bought stacked. With this many versions (even with a few being digital), it’s quite a tower! The Computer Audiophile and Jud 1 1 🔊 The Best Version Of... 🎧 Link to comment
kumakuma Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I must find the MFSL version! I loved those "lift" CD cases that MFSL used. Josh Mound 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, kumakuma said: I loved those "lift" CD cases that MFSL used. To die for! Josh Mound 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
PeterG Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 A great piece on what is undoubtedly one of the best sounding CDs of all time. Thanks! Now I just need to get busy on your recs in footnote 1... Josh Mound 1 Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Josh, you truly have the patience of Job. I do not know how you do it. The only version of this recording I have is the MoFi gold CD and it is indeed superb. Josh Mound 1 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoeWhip said: The only version of this recording I have is the MoFi gold CD Sounds familiar :~) “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” ― Oscar Wilde Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post JoeWhip Posted June 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2022 No Chris, just cheap! kumakuma and Josh Mound 2 Link to comment
firedog Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Amazing job, Josh. Is this the MFSL CD being reviewed: Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab – UDCD 593, Chess – UDCD 593? Josh Mound 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Josh Mound Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 5 hours ago, PeterG said: A great piece on what is undoubtedly one of the best sounding CDs of all time. Thanks! Now I just need to get busy on your recs in footnote 1... Thank you! Blues Hoot is probably the one most likely to appeal to Folk Singer fans, and overall I think the Hooker album is the best sounding of the three. The Dixon albums is great, but has some early-stereo hard panning that sounds awkward now. 4 hours ago, JoeWhip said: Josh, you truly have the patience of Job. I do not know how you do it. The only version of this recording I have is the MoFi gold CD and it is indeed superb. Thank you for the kind comments. Each TBVO is a labor of love! 3 hours ago, firedog said: Amazing job, Josh. Is this the MFSL CD being reviewed: Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab – UDCD 593, Chess – UDCD 593? Yes, that's the right MFSL. Unlike some albums that MFSL has transferred/mastered/issued a few times, so far they've only done Folk Singer once, and it was on Moffat's original GAIN system. PeterG 1 🔊 The Best Version Of... 🎧 Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 I sent a link to this article to Mike. Maybe he will chim in. Link to comment
Josh Mound Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, JoeWhip said: I sent a link to this article to Mike. Maybe he will chim in. Moffat? Awesome! I’ve been in touch with him about interviewing him soon for a dedicated article about the original GAIN system. 🔊 The Best Version Of... 🎧 Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Yes. He will be in Austin. Maybe you could interview him there. He and Dave still have the original GAIN device. Josh Mound 1 Link to comment
Archimago Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Wow @JoshM, you have outdone yourself! Masterful "audiophile" writing for a well-deserved "audiophile" album. Bravo! Keep up the amazing work. 👍 Time to go enjoy Muddy Waters (I've only got the Classic DVD with 24/192 version)... 😃 Josh Mound 1 Archimago's Musings: A "more objective" take for the Rational Audiophile. Beyond mere fidelity, into immersion and realism. R.I.P. MQA 2014-2023: Hyped product thanks to uneducated, uncritical advocates & captured press. Link to comment
EuroChamp Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 This is an amazing article! Just wow!!! Besides, I own all of the relevant versions and confirm the comparison. Josh Mound 1 Link to comment
firedog Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Hi- I've listened to this several times in the last few days. Can I say something sacrilegious? I think there's too much echo and reverb on this. Especially on Muddy's voice. Makes him sound at times like he's singing from that basement, as it were. I think it would sound better if Muddy was a little less echoey, and a bit more unaltered, present and up front. Not saying it isn't really good sounding overall - great tone, space of instruments, etc. Sorry if this offends someone. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Popular Post kumakuma Posted July 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, firedog said: I think there's too much echo and reverb on this. Especially on Muddy's voice. Makes him sound at times like he's singing from that basement, as it were. I'm sure Frank will be along in a few hours to try to convince you that the problem lies in your system rather than the recording... The Computer Audiophile and botrytis 2 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post botrytis Posted July 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2022 32 minutes ago, kumakuma said: I'm sure Frank will be along in a few hours to try to convince you that the problem lies in your system rather than the recording... Actually, that the youtube recorded version really has depth and colour. Now don't forget that you have modify the wiring to take the on/off switch out of the circuit.... kumakuma and The Computer Audiophile 2 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Josh Mound Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 10 hours ago, firedog said: Hi- I've listened to this several times in the last few days. Can I say something sacrilegious? I think there's too much echo and reverb on this. Especially on Muddy's voice. Makes him sound at times like he's singing from that basement, as it were. I think it would sound better if Muddy was a little less echoey, and a bit more unaltered, present and up front. Not saying it isn't really good sounding overall - great tone, space of instruments, etc. Sorry if this offends someone. There’s a link in the article where Steve Hoffman expresses the same thing. I wouldn’t mind a remixed version without the echo, but the echo was part of the Chess sound, and I enjoy it. If you like a drier acoustic blues sound, listen to the Blues Hoot album mentioned in the first footnote. 🔊 The Best Version Of... 🎧 Link to comment
Roy Boy Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Thanks for such a detailed insight into this recording. My personal favorite version is the Mobile Fidelity One-Step vinyl that I ripped to 24/352 via an RME ADI-2 Pro and streamed from a Lumin A1. It sounds like the most lifelike of the versions I have which are a 24/192 from Classic Records and a ripped 24/352 version of the AP 45 RPM Link to comment
KDinsmore Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Josh. Thank you again for the in-depth. I LOVE these articles of yours. I happily own the MFSL Gold. Josh Mound 1 Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain Link to comment
Josh Mound Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 I just published a brief update. I didn't wait to receive my own copy of the 2002 Discovery CD from overseas, since images online showed that it shared the same liner notes as the 2010 Master SACD that I already owned, as well as nearly identical catalog numbers. The 2002 Discovery CD arrived yesterday, and it's a different mastering. It's not good, but it's different. So, for completeness's sake, I've changed a few paragraphs in the TBVO to reflect this. 🔊 The Best Version Of... 🎧 Link to comment
Josh Mound Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 An incomplete sample of the TBVO process. (These are just the new CD/DVD/SACD purchases. I keep used ones separate.) 🔊 The Best Version Of... 🎧 Link to comment
surfcat Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I would love to put my AP reel tape of MWFS against any/all other versions. Bring 'em on!!! Josh Mound 1 Link to comment
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