Popular Post Priaptor Posted May 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2022 Just now, The Computer Audiophile said: Thanks for the kind words. I really struggled with this one because everyone knows I’ve spent a good bit of money on Wilson speakers and the company advertises on AS. I’m sure some will write off my best of show award, but I have to call it like I see it. The flip side of that coin is not talking about brands I own or advertise with me. That would be such a disservice to everyone. I know you understand all of this, but your comment made me think of it. I thought the Rockport room left a lot to be desired. I know those speakers are great, but not at this show. It happens. Shows are fun. Music is fun. But, purchasing decisions made using show reports or experience are foolish. My show report is only a start for someone, not the definitive word. Couldn't agree more. One of my favorite systems of all time was my WATT/PUPPY with Spectral gear and a SOTA turntable. It was really a great system, not just for 1991 but it would kill in today's world, and I had my room tuned perfectly for it. Of course, I, after being enticed by my reseller and Wilson made the BIG mistake of wanting "more". An expensive and foolhardy mistake that led me to their then top of the line (back then) X1 and expensive Mark Levinson gear. Sometimes, as the expression goes, the enemy of good is better and I see too many people chasing what they think they want (GUILTY AS CHARGED) rather than making what they have better, the camp I now reside in. The real question is, could any one of your subscribers (me included) be happy with Wilson, Magico, YG, name your speaker, with name your turntable, with name your amp/preamp/digital source, when the product is properly setup in a properly setup room while listening to the music instead of perseverating on the gear? I know, I have learned my lesson in this crazy "hobby" of ours and as I get older just focus on listening and enjoying, of course, unless my reseller is successful in enticing me with something I never thought I wanted or would buy LOL. Also, as in politics, everything is local. I have a particularly good reseller who I have been a customer of for years, who has serviced me for years and is very capable in getting me to where I want to be and he stands behind his products and WHEN NOT IF there is an issue, always fixes in a mutually agreeable way. Have I and he made mistakes? Yes but he has always worked with me to fix them. He is also extremely capable of room setup and will be by many times to fine tune the system and room. So if he sells Brand X and not Brand Y, given the high end in today's world, it's not so much about the "brand" but about how to get whatever you buy to sound good with components that work together in a system and within a properly tuned room for the product one buys. One of the reasons I enjoy reading on this site is because people here tend to focus on what they have as well as the music they listen to whereas on most other sites, its dogma, hyperbole and the never ending search for audio nirvana which so many believe is achieved with changing gear rather than optimizing what they have and being exposed to new music and new genres of music and just chill and enjoy rather than critically listening to the equipment with the same "audiophile recordings". Jud, mrmb and The Computer Audiophile 2 1 Link to comment
jrobbins50 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Chris, wondering if there was anything of interest Atmos wise over at Revel? JCR Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I had reservations about it until I talked to Michal. OK but I can't see making that effort. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
skatbelt Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Yes, Nagra + Wilson Audio was nice but best of show... by far... this! Streamer dCS Network Bridge DAC Chord DAVE Amplifier / DRC Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 Speakers Lindemann BL-10 | JL audio E-sub e110 Head-fi and reference Bakoon HPA-21 | Audeze LCD-3 (f) Power and isolation Dedicated power line | Xentek extreme isolation transformer (1KVA, balanced) | Uptone Audio EtherREGEN + Ferrum Hypsos | Sonore OpticalModule + Uptone Audio UltraCap LPS-1.2 | Jensen CI-1RR Cables Jorma Digital XLR (digital), Grimm Audio SQM RCA (analog), Kimber 8TC + WBT (speakers), custom star-quad with Oyaide connectors (AC), Ferrum (DC) and Ghent (ethernet) Software dCS Mosaic | Tidal | Qobuz Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, skatbelt said: Yes, Nagra + Wilson Audio was nice but best of show... by far... this! Erector set audio? Only joking. Which room is that? AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post skatbelt Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 5 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Erector set audio? Only joking. Which room is that? IO Design NAKED speakers. It was in H4, R02. In one of those smaller booths. Despite that, everything was right, from top to bottom. No coloration, no harshness, no boom, silvery fast, only music: the Raal Requisite SR1a among loudspeakers. Unfortunately 80k euros for a pair. The Computer Audiophile and ShawnC 1 1 Streamer dCS Network Bridge DAC Chord DAVE Amplifier / DRC Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 Speakers Lindemann BL-10 | JL audio E-sub e110 Head-fi and reference Bakoon HPA-21 | Audeze LCD-3 (f) Power and isolation Dedicated power line | Xentek extreme isolation transformer (1KVA, balanced) | Uptone Audio EtherREGEN + Ferrum Hypsos | Sonore OpticalModule + Uptone Audio UltraCap LPS-1.2 | Jensen CI-1RR Cables Jorma Digital XLR (digital), Grimm Audio SQM RCA (analog), Kimber 8TC + WBT (speakers), custom star-quad with Oyaide connectors (AC), Ferrum (DC) and Ghent (ethernet) Software dCS Mosaic | Tidal | Qobuz Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 https://www.iosoundesign.com shows another photo of the setup. Ribbon tweeters, planar magnetic midrange, dynamic bass - would be interesting to hear how that all integrates (especially the bass). Those "cables" look like fun. 🙂 The Computer Audiophile, skatbelt and AudioDoctor 3 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted May 26, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 Just walked in the door at home, from Vienna. It was a fantastic trip. I have much to report in the coming days. DuckToller, retro, MFJG and 2 others 1 4 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Darryl R Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Just now reading this, a little envious, as Germany is one of my favorite places to visit. But not sure why the MSB room was a surprise ;) Link to comment
bbosler Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 3:28 AM, skatbelt said: IO Design NAKED speakers. It was in H4, R02. In one of those smaller booths. Despite that, everything was right, from top to bottom. No coloration, no harshness, no boom, silvery fast, only music: the Raal Requisite SR1a among loudspeakers. Unfortunately 80k euros for a pair I think this type of design has great potential, but seems impossible to me that these would play anywhere near flat down to 22Hz, but the specs don't say how flat they are, just a range with no ± dB. Their web site has a lot of flowery hyperbole but a little short on substance. Specification 2 Woofers 12" 1 Custom magneto-planar Midrange 1 Custom ribbon Tweeter Sensitivity 91 dB Nominal Impedance 8 Ohm (minimum 4 Ohm) Frequency response 22-35.000 Hz see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
botrytis Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, bbosler said: I think this type of design has great potential, but seems impossible to me that these would play anywhere near flat down to 22Hz, but the specs don't say how flat they are, just a range with no ± dB. Their web site has a lot of flowery hyperbole but a little short on substance. Specification 2 Woofers 12" 1 Custom magneto-planar Midrange 1 Custom ribbon Tweeter Sensitivity 91 dB Nominal Impedance 8 Ohm (minimum 4 Ohm) Frequency response 22-35.000 Hz No, +/- is telling as those numbers mean nothing w/o the dB rating. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
MarcelNL Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 15 hours ago, bbosler said: I think this type of design has great potential, but seems impossible to me that these would play anywhere near flat down to 22Hz, but the specs don't say how flat they are, just a range with no ± dB. Their web site has a lot of flowery hyperbole but a little short on substance. Specification 2 Woofers 12" 1 Custom magneto-planar Midrange 1 Custom ribbon Tweeter Sensitivity 91 dB Nominal Impedance 8 Ohm (minimum 4 Ohm) Frequency response 22-35.000 Hz It sounded to me as you'd probably expect given the 'naked' baffle less design, neither was there any low end definition nor volume and to me it sounded HIFI/HIgh-End lacking things I find important, like overtones and 'coloratura' of instruments. It probably just shows that taste differs. ISP, glass to Fritz!box 5530, another Fritz!box 5530 for audio only in bridged mode on LPS, cat8.1, Zyxel switch on LPS, Finisar <1475BTL>Solarflare X2522-25G, external wifi AP, AMD 9 16 core, passive cooling ,Aorus Master x570, LPSU with Taiko ATX, 8Gb Apacer RAM, femto SSD on LPS, Pink Faun I2S ultra OCXO on akiko LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Adagio DAC3, RCA 70-A and Miyaima Zero for mono, G2 PL519 tube amps. Link to comment
skatbelt Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 17 hours ago, bbosler said: I think this type of design has great potential, but seems impossible to me that these would play anywhere near flat down to 22Hz, but the specs don't say how flat they are, just a range with no ± dB. Their web site has a lot of flowery hyperbole but a little short on substance. Let me put it this way. I spent at least 45 minutes in the room and heard a lot of music familiar to me and I didn't miss anything! It sounded very coherent and dynamic and not thin, not warm but neutral. Just right for my taste. People looking for quite a bit of saturation and lushness will not be attracted though. In my book you should not want to strive for this because there is always something out of balance or not right in the sound field. Streamer dCS Network Bridge DAC Chord DAVE Amplifier / DRC Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 Speakers Lindemann BL-10 | JL audio E-sub e110 Head-fi and reference Bakoon HPA-21 | Audeze LCD-3 (f) Power and isolation Dedicated power line | Xentek extreme isolation transformer (1KVA, balanced) | Uptone Audio EtherREGEN + Ferrum Hypsos | Sonore OpticalModule + Uptone Audio UltraCap LPS-1.2 | Jensen CI-1RR Cables Jorma Digital XLR (digital), Grimm Audio SQM RCA (analog), Kimber 8TC + WBT (speakers), custom star-quad with Oyaide connectors (AC), Ferrum (DC) and Ghent (ethernet) Software dCS Mosaic | Tidal | Qobuz Link to comment
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