Best CPU for hqplayer

[jamesg11]

5 hours ago, bobflood said:

If you deleted it from the downloads on your M1 then you will have to get Jussi to email you a link unless someone here has the link and could post it.

Yes, for whatever reason things were fine, until they weren’t ...

[Miska]

On 5/14/2021 at 9:56 AM, jamesg11 said:

As above, though still persisting with 4.11.0 - this got weirder: wound up able to play dff of any type, but no dsf files at all!

 

Can you email me log file of attempting to play those DSF files?

 

[michaelvv]

On 4/16/2021 at 1:39 PM, Bass Concussion Racing said:

AMD-optimized Ubuntu on an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X... Sounds just great.

I'll center my choices around that, get a decently dampened case, good CPU and PSU cooling and consider myself a happy camper, I believe.

Thanks a lot once more! You've been extremely helpful, Jus... Er... Miska!

 

I can confirm everything Jussi is saying. I'm up running on hqplayer ubuntu embedded.

This is my load playing on the poly-sinc-ext3 , testet both on SDM/PCM.

Use the AMD optimized version.

Max I have seen is about 30% usage , I'm limited to DSD 256 PCM 768.

PC is Idle about 40watt and Filters 130watt max 54 degrees on CPU...

 

 

 

[luisma]

Building a new active system with fans, it will be air cooled with a Noctua and other fans, water cooled is really a lot of hassle down the road with the pump and maintenance, I have an Intel CPU with a Noctua since 2011 (10 years) and the Noctua and the PC still usable.

 

Which CPU of the current ones out there would you recommend for an HQPe build?

• 11900K / 11900KF
• 11700K / KF
• even 11600K
• Ryzen 5800X

The target would be of course EC modulators which is achievable with any of the above listed CPU's currently (DSD256) but looking at the future which of these CPUs would handle better filters and such.

 

Thank you all for your comments

 

[Account Closed]

59 minutes ago, luisma said:

Building a new active system with fans, it will be air cooled with a Noctua and other fans, water cooled is really a lot of hassle down the road with the pump and maintenance, I have an Intel CPU with a Noctua since 2011 (10 years) and the Noctua and the PC still usable.

 

Which CPU of the current ones out there would you recommend for an HQPe build?

• 11900K / 11900KF
• 11700K / KF
• even 11600K
• Ryzen 5800X

The target would be of course EC modulators which is achievable with any of the above listed CPU's currently (DSD256) but looking at the future which of these CPUs would handle better filters and such.

 

Thank you all for your comments

 

If you want an Intel system and could wait until later this year, I would go with the upcoming 12th Generation i9 12900K. This is a 10nm chip (finally) so it should run cooler than the 14nm chips. Also, it will have a core arrangement similar to the Apple M1 with high load and low load cores and more of them which means that it might be able to function on more HQP filters without needing a GPU card. Check out the specs and you will see what I mean.

 

Or, you could see what the upcoming Apple M1X/M2 chip that will also be out later this year can do. This may be the first chip to be able to do ASDM7EC/DSD512. It is impossible to know for sure of course but the specs look promising.

 

If you can't wait, then I would go with the i9 11900K just because it is the Intel powerhouse chip and would give you the most flexibility.

 

 

[luisma]

@bobflood thank you for the tips, definitely would be worth waiting for.

The M1X/M2 chip would be great but it seems it won't play well with HQPe, only on the MAC environment.

[luisma]

Can the 11600K do EC modulators with poli sinc 3?

Would it be best to go with Ryzen 5600X vs 11600K ?

I might go with a cheaper build now and later on Jan 2022 get the 12th gen chip

 

[Miska]

2 hours ago, luisma said:

Which CPU of the current ones out there would you recommend for an HQPe build?

• 11900K / 11900KF
• 11700K / KF
• even 11600K
• Ryzen 5800X

The target would be of course EC modulators which is achievable with any of the above listed CPU's currently (DSD256) but looking at the future which of these CPUs would handle better filters and such.

 

Of above, I've tested only Ryzen 5800X, which works nicely with EC modulators using the AMD optimized build.

 

I will likely get also 11th gen Intel CPU some time soon, but I don't have such yet.

 

[Yviena]

1 hour ago, luisma said:

Can the 11600K do EC modulators with poli sinc 3?

Would it be best to go with Ryzen 5600X vs 11600K ?

I might go with a cheaper build now and later on Jan 2022 get the 12th gen chip

 

ext-3 seems to be very resource intensive when going from 44.1khz to 48khz especially with PCM 7xx rates on my 5900x it basically has the same CPU load as EC7 DSD256, and this is with PCM to PCM upsampling only.

[Miska]

8 minutes ago, Yviena said:

ext-3 seems to be very resource intensive when going from 44.1khz to 48khz especially with PCM 7xx rates on my 5900x it basically has the same CPU load as EC7 DSD256, and this is with PCM to PCM upsampling only.

 

Doesn't look too bad to me:

 

 

This is on Ryzen 7 5800X.

[Yviena]

44 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

Doesn't look too bad to me:

 

 

This is on Ryzen 7 5800X.

I dunno reported cpu load atleast for me is the same with 44.1 to 768khz ext3 , and EC7 DSD256.

[luisma]

What I have seen with ext3 is more intense processing but not on the main 2 cores but the other 2, Jussi really nailed down the core distribution loads on this one. So on my 5600X

 

DSD256 ASDM7EC ext2

 

DSD256 ASDM7EC ext3

 

Same as ext2 on cores 1 and 4 but more usage on 3 and 5

 

[Miska]

16 minutes ago, Yviena said:

I dunno reported cpu load atleast for me is the same with 44.1 to 768khz ext3 , and EC7 DSD256.

 

It should be quite close, ASDM7EC just loads two more cores due to modulators.

 

[luisma]

One more inquiry, which video card you would recommend to offload the filters? model, brand?

[Miska]

On 5/24/2021 at 4:42 AM, luisma said:

One more inquiry, which video card you would recommend to offload the filters? model, brand?

 

Always depends on requirements, but as powerful as possible Nvidia RTX 20- or 30-series.

 

[dean70]

16 hours ago, Miska said:

 

Always depends on requirements, but as powerful as possible Nvidia RTX 20- or 30-series.

 

 

RTX-3060? half the cost of 3080 & has 12gb vram

[fishflower]

Miska,
My new nuc11 overturned. Hqplayer-embedded-4.23.0-x64 can't recognize nuc11's 2.4G network card and can't get the IPv4 address.

[fishflower]

network card is intel(R) Ethernet controller(3) i225-Lm

[Miska]

I think it is so new hardware that the driver in 5.4 kernel doesn't support that network interface yet. I will eventually update the kernel, but meanwhile you can use some USB-Ethernet adapter to get network connection.

 

[fishflower]

thank you!

[luisma]

@Miskawow perfect load distribution, the new releases gets better and better with CPU, never would have expected to see this

 

 

Although when changing the source to 44.1/16 and doing DSD256 the load changes

 

[Miska]

4 hours ago, luisma said:

Although when changing the source to 44.1/16 and doing DSD256 the load changes

 

This is because the modulator load doubles, which cannot be efficiently distributed to multiple cores on x64 CPUs.

 

[fishflower]

Miska

         good moring ! I Very happy, nuc11 Pro can run dsd256 7ec XTR smoothly!😃  But Mac Mini M1 can't😜

[fishflower]

Hello, everyone. Can you tell me how to write hqplayer-embedded-4.22.3-x64.img into my new nuc11's m2 nvme??

[Miska]

52 minutes ago, fishflower said:

Miska

         good moring ! I Very happy, nuc11 Pro can run dsd256 7ec XTR smoothly!😃  But Mac Mini M1 can't😜

 

Great! Do you have a link to such device? Is this on Linux or Windows?

 

33 minutes ago, fishflower said:

Can you tell me how to write hqplayer-embedded-4.22.3-x64.img into my new nuc11's m2 nvme??

 

You can use a Linux live image like Ubuntu Desktop or Fedora Workstation installation image and when the installer asks, select "Try" to enter normal live desktop. You can then "dd" the image to the NVMe.