Michael Lavorgna strikes back.......

[Ralf11]

Space,  Dr. Higgs got a Nobel prize for work involving waves.

 

 

But not sound waves - see your screen name for more

[John_Atkinson]

2 hours ago, Brinkman Ship said:

 

"MQA Partners" have provided The TEN Network with significant income.

 

This is a screenshot of an ad on the Stereophile website;

 

 

 OMG! You found us out. :-)

 

But wait, looking at the advertisers on CA, it seems that "MQA Partners" like dCS, Mytek, etc, have provided CA with significant income, also. A paradox!

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

[mansr]

5 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

Not quite. I said that I was told by my Russian-speaking daughter that while the phrase GFYM can indeed be meant as a literal exhortation, it is also in use as a general exclamation. A quick Google search retrieves this: "ёб твою́ мать which literally means '(I) fucked your mother', but . . . may also be used as an exclamation in which it can mean 'I’ll be damned!'" As in ""CA sure has a lot of posts about MQA - GFYM!"

A closer English equivalent is probably "fuck me."

 

5 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

Perhaps Michael Lavorgna has Russian ancestry :-)

Even if he does, it is no excuse. His grasp of the English language is clearly sufficient that he should be capable of choosing profanities appropriate to the situation and audience.

[Brinkman Ship]

12 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

 OMG! You found us out. :-)

 

But wait, looking at the advertisers on CA, it seems that "MQA Partners" like dCS, Mytek, etc, have provided CA with significant income, also. A paradox!

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

@The Computer Audiophile How many MQA specific ads do you currently have running?

[firedog]

4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I saw John Atkinson at the McIntosh event in NYC last week. He told me that it's a popular saying in Russia and isn't seen as something negative. 

 

I'm being 100% honest.

You might want to remind him that ML isn’t Russian and his home isn’t in Russia.

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

4 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

@The Computer Audiophile How many MQA specific ads do you currently have running?

I think we have one banner that has the letters MQA because the name of the product was changed to include MQA in the name.

 

Other advertisers certainly have MQA certified products.

[John_Atkinson]

7 minutes ago, mansr said:

"Perhaps Michael Lavorgna has Russian ancestry :-) "

 

Even if he does, it is no excuse. His grasp of the English language is clearly sufficient that he should be capable of choosing profanities appropriate to the situation and audience.

 

You clearly missed the smiley emoticon.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

[Brinkman Ship]

3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I think we have one banner that has the letters MQA because the name of the product was changed to include MQA in the name.

 

Other advertisers certainly have MQA certified products.

Thank you. Does anyone have a current print issue of Stereophile?

[plissken]

25 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

Not quite. I said that I was told by my Russian-speaking daughter that while the phrase GFYM can indeed be meant as a literal exhortation, it is also in use as a general exclamation. A quick Google search retrieves this: "ёб твою́ мать which literally means '(I) fucked your mother', but . . . may also be used as an exclamation in which it can mean 'I’ll be damned!'" As in ""CA sure has a lot of posts about MQA - GFYM!"

 

Perhaps Michael Lavorgna has Russian ancestry :-)

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

 

So this conversation you had with Chris isn't defending Lavorgna telling people to either go fuck their mother or go fuck themselves, or any derivative. 

 

Got it 

[Spacehound]

21 minutes ago, mansr said:

The  closer English equivalent is probably "fuck me."

 

Even if he does, it is no excuse. His grasp of the English language is clearly sufficient that he should be capable of choosing profanities appropriate to the situation and audience.

And a Pietmontese  one is very similar to "countach". So many people called it out when a particular car had its veil lifted they named the car the same but changed the spelling slightly  so as not to offend English speakers, especially  female ones.

[realhifi]

8 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

Thank you. Does anyone have a current print issue of Stereophile?

yep.

[realhifi]

14 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

You clearly missed the smiley emoticon.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

Lol.  I think I'd like to sit down and have a few drinks with you folks!  You can even call me a........!

[John_Atkinson]

11 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

Thank you. Does anyone have a current print issue of Stereophile?

 

I do :-)

 

It includes Part 3 of Jim Austin's series of articles on MQA.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

[beetlemania]

4 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

Thank you. Does anyone have a current print issue of Stereophile?

I do. What are you looking for?

 

I think TAS will write pretty much anything you want for a price but I don't see this dynamic at Stereophile. I can only speculate the reasons why JA and crew are propping up MQA but I doubt it has anything to do with revenue from specific advertisers. Magazine sales, perhaps, but not to appease certain advertisers. It would be interesting to enumerate the pro- and anti-MQA manufacturers. I don't know that the second pool is a majority but it surely is significant (Schitt, Linn, Ayre, mbl, PS Audio . . .).

 

Doug Schneider is taking a reasoned approach here, waiting for credible listening tests. Even then, the multiple downsides to MQA need to also be considered. Stereophile has completely ignored these as far as I can tell.

[Spacehound]

1 minute ago, realhifi said:

yep.

Nope.

I haven't purchased any  hifi  magazine for many year though my hifi interest  (and my money) have increased. In the UK now few outlets  stock any of them, though they used to.

[Spacehound]

6 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

I do :-)

 

It includes Part 3 of Jim Austin's series of articles on MQA.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

That's be a laugh.

[realhifi]

Probably similar to why folks in the US don't buy Brtish hifi mags.  The cost.  I can gt a year subscription for the cost of one issue of What HIFI or one of the other British mags.

[Brinkman Ship]

7 minutes ago, beetlemania said:

I do. What are you looking for?

 

I think TAS will write pretty much anything you want for a price but I don't see this dynamic at Stereophile. I can only speculate the reasons why JA and crew are propping up MQA but I doubt it has anything to do with revenue from specific advertisers. Magazine sales, perhaps, but not to appease certain advertisers. It would be interesting to enumerate the pro- and anti-MQA manufacturers. I don't know that the second pool is a majority but it surely is significant (Schitt, Linn, Ayre, mbl, PS Audio . . .).

 

Doug Schneider is taking a reasoned approach here, waiting for credible listening tests. Even then, the multiple downsides to MQA need to also be considered. Stereophile has completely ignored these as far as I can tell.

I am simply curious to how many MQA specific ads (MQA log) are in the current issue, nothing more.

 

I think you slightly went around the heart of the matter. It is not that Stereophile or anyone else will write anything

to help specific advertisers, it is that they have done no critical reporting, and when they finally did  point out some

of the objections to MQA it was/is in a clear passive/aggressive manner.

 

They are creating ad revenue markets by backing MQA with all their might. And I doubt "magazine" sales are worth anything to them. Maintaining their current subscriber #s is all they need to do to continue to keep their current advertising clients.

 

I honestly do not know how many copies they circulate via actual news stand sales. Outside of crowded major metros, do news stands even exist?

[Spacehound]

55 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

'OMG! You found us out. :-)

 

But wait, looking at the advertisers on CA, it seems that "MQA Partners" like dCS, Mytek, etc, have provided CA with significant income, also. A paradox!

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

That they have merely added a feature would hardly stop them advertising where there are so many viewers.

 

And there is no mention of any 'partnership' or MQA on the dCS site that I can find. Maybe the 'partnership' is somewhat one-sided. It is only one feature out of many, after all. MP3, for example, doesn't get any 'special mention' and  it's much the same.

[Brinkman Ship]

7 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

That's be a laugh.

To be fair, it would be better to read the article before attacking it.

 

I read the first two parts, and formed some conclusions about the agenda,

But am not pre-judging Part 3.

[realhifi]

2 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

I honestly do not know how many copies they circulate via actual news stand sales. Outside of crowded major metros, do news stands even exist?

We have at least four in our smallish city (pop 16,000).  All in bookstores and yes, they all carry Absolute Sound and Stereophile.

[Spacehound]

11 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

To be fair, it would be better to read the article before attacking it.

 

I read the first two parts, and formed some conclusions about the agenda,

But am not pre-judging Part 3.

Seen the previous two. Unless he's very much changed his spots it will be as worthless as those.

[eclectic]

22 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

I am simply curious to how many MQA specific ads (MQA log) are in the current issue, nothing more.

 

I think you slightly went around the heart of the matter. It is not that Stereophile or anyone else will write anything

to help specific advertisers, it is that they have done no critical reporting, and when they finally did  point out some

of the objections to MQA it was/is in a clear passive/aggressive manner.

 

They are creating ad revenue markets by backing MQA with all their might. And I doubt "magazine" sales are worth anything to them. Maintaining their current subscriber #s is all they need to do to continue to keep their current advertising clients.

 

I honestly do not know how many copies they circulate via actual news stand sales. Outside of crowded major metros, do news stands even exist?

 

Some excellent points by Mr Ship.

 

The hifi industry, as we've known it for 40 years or so is dying. The only healthy sector is headphones, and that customer base is significantly different to  traditional audiophiles. Magazines are struggling and over the past few years have been increasingly focused on "high end" equipment. I'm sure they see MQA as the great redeemer - to revitalize the industry as a whole (including themselves) but in their desperation they've sacrificed their credibility by becoming cheerleaders for MQA.

 

 

[Spacehound]

11 minutes ago, realhifi said:

We have at least four in our smallish city (pop 16,000).  All in bookstores and yes, they all carry Absolute Sound and Stereophile.

I live in a UK town of 400,000. I have to drive 20 miles to find a 'specialist' magazine (and map) store   that stocks ANY hifi magazine. And the UK  is part of the EU, a larger market than the USA.

[eclectic]

1 minute ago, Spacehound said:

I live in a UK town of 400,000.

 

That's a city surely.