The $3K all in exercize.

[beerandmusic]

21 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

IQ is a very general concept - that's for sure

 

- the Stanford-Binet test is the metric but relies on English language skills

 

beer  - does it make ANY sense to you to call out differences on a category that does not exist (race)

 

I didn't call it out...i just disagreed with your statement of fact.  I don't believe it is relevant to anything, especially on an audio forum, but i would say that IQ, as defined by "industry accepted" mathematically based IQ tests will have marginal percentage differences based on race.  Keep in mind my other statements that i generally like people of different races more than my own, and that I believe everyone has gifts....and we are all of one body.  1 co 12:20

[Ralf11]

but you are wrong

 

I posted a book for you to read, but it will require more effort than 2 mouse clicks

[beerandmusic]

19 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

but you are wrong

 

I posted a book for you to read, but it will require more effort than 2 mouse clicks

 

1.  I have never read a novel in my life and am not about to start now.

2.  There is only one authoritative book in the world i live.

3.  I don't need to read any book, nor to dig any deeper than the common sense in my own mind.

 

I never suggested that IQ has any significant meaning, and even said that i have a very high iQ, but that I am a stupid fool....so that should show you how much relevance I place on IQ on anything that matters in life....regardless of any of that, i agree to disagree with you and "your book".

 

 

 

[Ralf11]

you are confused about a lot of things & it is not clear how much sense is actually in your mind to dig thru - but one thing is that I did not post a novel - it is non-fiction written by one of the top biologists of recent decades

 

enjoy your Koran

[The Computer Audiophile]

Back on topic guys / gals/ kids.

[Ralf11]

On 12/11/2015 at 11:19 AM, plissken said:

In another thread Jud mentioned a $560 speaker driven by several $K of electronics. I mentioned taking the same budget (say $3K all in) and spend $2300 on speakers. $700 on the electronics stack.

 

So here is my go assuming commercial and new speakers.

 

Dennis Murphy Philharmonic Slim Towers $2200

 

TEAC AL501DA-B $449

 

Source Computer w/ Wireless KB and Mouse: $127

 

4TB NAS for $149

 

JRiver with JRemote for smartphone.

 

is Dennis Murphy better than the kef's?

[mansr]

7 minutes ago, beerandmusic said:

There is only one authoritative book in the world i live.

Principia?

[semente]

4 hours ago, beerandmusic said:

 

higher iq's generally equate to higher income and appreciate engineering, so logically it makes sense that a higher percentage of people with high iq's appreciate high quality music.......a lot of money is inherited, but still, percentage wise, common sense tells you that people with higher iq's will  enjoy most aspects of a higher-end lifestyle....not to say there are not many exceptions....

 

My neighbours are either post-gradute students or senior fellows / teacher-researchers at the University.

Most don't even own a car and they keep complaining about the cost of living...

[beerandmusic]

18 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

you are confused about a lot of things & it is not clear how much sense is actually in your mind to dig thru - but one thing is that I did not post a novel - it is non-fiction written by one of the top biologists of recent decades

 

 

It's either a novel or your misquoted.

Last i checked the Koran doesn't have Corinthians....lots of "good" information on intelligence in Corinthians if you want real substance.

 

 

 

[mansr]

2 minutes ago, beerandmusic said:

Last i checked the Koran doesn't have Corinthians.

Neither does Principia.

[semente]

4 hours ago, beerandmusic said:

What do you consider high-end audio?  "high-end" is really relative to your own financial status. 

High end to some could be a $1K amp, where to some, a high-end amp would be $100K.

A few definitions...

 

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/high-end

high-end

- intended for people who want very good quality products and who do not mind how much they cost:

high-end video equipment/a high-end department store

- wanting very good quality products, and willing to pay a lot of money for them:

high-end consumers

 

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/high-end

high-end

-Denoting the most expensive of a range of products.

‘high-end computers’

 

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/high-end

high-end

High-end products, especially electronic products, are the most expensive of their kind.

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/high-end

high-end

- upscale

high-end boutiques

- of superior quality or sophistication and usually high in price

high-end cameras

 

 

[beerandmusic]

1 minute ago, semente said:

A few definitions...

 

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/high-end

high-end

- intended for people who want very good quality products and who do not mind how much they cost:

high-end video equipment/a high-end department store

- wanting very good quality products, and willing to pay a lot of money for them:

high-end consumers

 

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/high-end

high-end

-Denoting the most expensive of a range of products.

‘high-end computers’

 

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/high-end

high-end

High-end products, especially electronic products, are the most expensive of their kind.

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/high-end

high-end

- upscale

high-end boutiques

- of superior quality or sophistication and usually high in price

high-end cameras

 

 

note how all the definitions use relative terms (e.g. expensive)....expensive can be 1K or 100K....dependent on ones financial status. 

[GUTB]

Okay guys. Now for an the impossible mode challenge: Linear amplified, DSD-capable, NEW from DEALERS / DIRECT WITH WARRANTY complete system for $3k or less!

 

Here's my stab at it:

 

Speakers: http://www.decware.com/newsite/DM945.html ($1000)

Amp/Pre: http://www.musicalparadise.ca/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=93 ($700)

DAC: http://www.musicalparadise.ca/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=95 ($700)

Source: http://www.musicalparadise.ca/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=71&product_id=83 ($550)

 

Based on Decware speakers, highly sensitive, ribbon tweeters. Amp is auto-biased tubed, A/B. DAC is a good tubed output stage XMOS / AK4490 based DAC with native DSD decoding. Source is a mini-PC with linear power supply. Should be decent! Would be better with a tube-rectified amp but nothing like that cheap enough available new from Western dealers as far as I know.

[mansr]

8 minutes ago, beerandmusic said:

note how all the definitions use relative terms (e.g. expensive)....expensive can be 1K or 100K....dependent on ones financial status. 

In this case it is relative to what's available on the market.

[beerandmusic]

12 minutes ago, mansr said:

Neither does Principia.

 

i would never knock any faith.

[mansr]

1 minute ago, beerandmusic said:

i would never knock any faith.

Nor would I, except blind faith.

[beerandmusic]

Just now, mansr said:

In this case it is relative to what's available on the market.

 

it could be relative to anything dependent on context.

 

 

[beerandmusic]

5 minutes ago, mansr said:

Nor would I, except blind faith.

i accept all faiths....blind faith just isn't very strong, but it does have some basis...even if it is only on the absence of higher faith.

[Ron Scubadiver]

2 hours ago, mansr said:

Fortunate people have more money. Intelligence is but a minor factor.

Some people say it is luck, I think it is about talent.

[The Computer Audiophile]

3 minutes ago, mansr said:

Nor would I, except blind faith.

BS. Awesome band.

 

 

[beerandmusic]

 

 

3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

BS. Awesome band.

 

 

I am glad you used the alternate cover.

[mansr]

6 minutes ago, Ron Scubadiver said:

Some people say it is luck, I think it is about talent.

Lots of very talented people never get the opportunity to make the most of their skills. Only the lucky ones do.

[Ron Scubadiver]

@beerandmusic   I am in a very different place from GUTB, much older and not subject to the pressures he must deal with every day.   How people behave in internet forums is not a great indicator of what they are like in real life.

 

As for the foundation of success there is a division between the Left and the Right.  The Left will ascribe success mostly to the efforts of the government and luck.  The Right sees it mostly as Talent and risk taking.

[Ron Scubadiver]

1 minute ago, mansr said:

Lots of very talented people never get the opportunity to make the most of their skills. Only the lucky ones do.

Talented people make their own luck.  Everyone else buys lottery tickets.  

[mansr]

1 minute ago, Ron Scubadiver said:

As for the foundation of success there is a division between the Left and the Right.  The Left will ascribe success mostly to the efforts of the government and luck.  The Right sees it mostly as Talent and risk taking.

What is a risky endeavour that succeeds if not luck?