HQ Player

[Miska]

12 minutes ago, Le Concombre Masqué said:

as I wrote, I add to Library INSTEAD OF D&D

 

If I could have seen a database file inflating I guess I would have let the filings go on rather than aborting them after a few hours "in the black" with progression bar bouncing from left to right and vice versa ; guess it was all in RAM then and cleared off at reboot....

 

Sorry, my bad, I misread it...

 

Yes, all information is stored in RAM and only saved once you click "OK" in the dialog. Library dialog always shows complete contents of the current library.

 

[Le Concombre Masqué]

21 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

Sorry, my bad, I misread it...

 

Yes, all information is stored in RAM and only saved once you click "OK" in the dialog. Library dialog always shows complete contents of the current library.

 

Maybe it's very personal but I would appreciate to be able to build several libraries to break down the huge bulk. But, as I wrote earlier I can still browse Finder instead and then perform a Search in Client.

 

In Finder I have built : File under Classical, File under Jazz, File under Popular etc and then broke into Middle age, Renaissance, Baroque etc for Classical and inception decade for Jazz and Popular (ie Miles Davis is Inception 40's and that includes all albums till posthumous early 90's. 

 

I'd be happy to adopt a smarter break-down if offered one but, for sure, having one huge Library with only Search in Client won't allow me to find the download or rip I made  a few years ago based on this or that recommendation, that I overlooked and forgot about, but that puzzles me if I browse Finder and see an album I don't recall when browsing, say, Inception 2000's in Finder... Criteria may differ but what I mean is that huge bulk gathered under Library and then only sortable via Search in Client is good only if you want to access a well known track

[Bob Stern]

1 hour ago, Le Concombre Masqué said:

I would appreciate to be able to build several libraries to break down the huge bulk. But, as I wrote earlier I can still browse Finder instead and then perform a Search in Client.

 

In Finder I have built : File under Classical, File under Jazz, File under Popular etc and then broke into Middle age, Renaissance, Baroque etc for Classical and inception decade for Jazz and Popular

 

Try using Finder Tags rather than relying entirely on the folder hierarchy.  Tags have the advantage of facilitating multi-dimensional searches.  For example, a given track can be tagged as both Classical and Piano.

 

Of course, a true database permitting searching of multiple fields is even better.  That's why I use iTunes or Swinsian as a music database manager.

[Le Concombre Masqué]

8 hours ago, Bob Stern said:

 

Try using Finder Tags rather than relying entirely on the folder hierarchy.  Tags have the advantage of facilitating multi-dimensional searches.  For example, a given track can be tagged as both Classical and Piano.

 

Of course, a true database permitting searching of multiple fields is even better.  That's why I use iTunes or Swinsian as a music database manager.

Thank you Bob, interestingly enough you don't mention Audirvana that you use. I have seen A users complaining but I quite liked it as a front to Embedded.

 

iTunes did not cope with DSD files last time I checked + I use HQP under Windows while living with macOS the rest of the time :makes tagging and ( use of aliases )moot

 

I'll have a better look to Swinsian

[Yviena]

@Miska just wondering do you have a ETA for when 4.11.x will be released for desktop, or a download page for beta releases?

[Ernie]

I have been using version 3 and am now demo’ing version 4. Using ec modulator and upsampling to dsd 128 I hear a brief click before each track. Not present when using version 3.  Any ideas?

[k6davis]

22 minutes ago, Ernie said:

I have been using version 3 and am now demo’ing version 4. Using ec modulator and upsampling to dsd 128 I hear a brief click before each track. Not present when using version 3.  Any ideas?

 

 

Have you tried upsampling to DSD with both versions, not using EC? In other words is the "clicking" issue related to DSD, or EC?

 

[Ernie]

3 minutes ago, k6davis said:

 

 

Have you tried upsampling to DSD with both versions, not using EC? In other words is the "clicking" issue related to DSD, or EC?

 

Even within version 4 clicks are only apparent when using ec. No other issues however, stuttering etc.

[k6davis]

1 minute ago, Ernie said:

Even within version 4 clicks are only apparent when using ec. No other issues however, stuttering etc.

 

Strange. This may be one for @Miska. If you like, post what OS you're using, what CPU, what the CPU utilization is while you're using EC, what the source sample rate is, which EC modulator & sample rate you're upsampling to.

 

Those details may help him or anyone else resolve the issue.

[Ernie]

Sure, thanks

 

imac

3.4 Ghz intel core i7

source is 44.1

upsample to dsd 128

poly sinc xtr mp 2s

dsd5ec

cpu load...about 245% distributed over cores

[Miska]

What is the content/where is it coming from? Usually when source sample rate doesn't change, the source data stream is gapless.

 

[Ernie]

13 minutes ago, Miska said:

What is the content/where is it coming from? Usually when source sample rate doesn't change, the source data stream is gapless.

 

Streaming from tidal through roon. Using the roon radio feature. 

[Ernie]

Could be that it is more noticeable when a 44.1 track is followed by one of their MQA tracks.  I will check that

[Ernie]

Nope....the click is still there even when moving through a series of track all of which are 44.1. Very brief...just before a track starts

[sledwards]

2 hours ago, Ernie said:

I have been using version 3 and am now demo’ing version 4. Using ec modulator and upsampling to dsd 128 I hear a brief click before each track. Not present when using version 3.  Any ideas?

So I am not the only one who has noticed the click? I hear one or two very faint 'clicks' when I hit play in Roon AND I am upsampling to DSD in Version 4 of HQPlayer. Does not happen when upsampling to PCM or when using Version 3 of HQPlayer. I have two independent installations of Version 4, different NAA and HQplayer 4.0 installs on different machines. Both systems exhibit the click in version 4.

[Ernie]

1 minute ago, sledwards said:

So I am not the only one who has noticed the click? I hear one or two very faint 'clicks' when I hit play in Roon AND I am upsampling to DSD in Version 4 of HQPlayer. Does not happen when upsampling to PCM or when using Version 3 of HQPlayer. I have two independent installations of Version 4, different NAA and HQplayer 4.0 installs on different machines. Both systems exhibit the click in version 4.

As far as I can tell, it is much less prevalent or absent when not using the EC modulators.  Although I love them.

[Ernie]

Also more prevalent when I manually advance to next track before current track is finished

[sledwards]

Just now, Ernie said:

Also more prevalent when I manually advance to next track before current track is finished

 

Correct. If I am listening to a playlist, there is no click between tracks. Only if I manually select a new track and hit play.

[sledwards]

Also I have observed that changing buffer time in HQPlayer does not change the behavior.

[Ernie]

And for the detectives out there....it also occurs when I manually move to another part of the track, just before  the music starts

[k6davis]

I'm getting no clicks at all. I'll be interested to find out what's causing them for you guys.

[sledwards]

4 hours ago, Miska said:

What is the content/where is it coming from? Usually when source sample rate doesn't change, the source data stream is gapless.

 

I can randomly select any file in my library, doesn't matter what bit rate, I get the click just before the music starts.

[luisma]

@Miska I started having the weirdest issue with HQP, and I'm not saying it is HQP but certainly something is weird. 

Settings are SDM and network with NAA. 

When playing from Roon it plays but at an accelerated rate, like a 33 rpm vinyl on 68 rpm, and Roon shows the PCM settings in HQP not the SDM. I have a video. 

Has anyone seen anything like it? Any thoughts? My system is server nuc with Audiolinux and HQPE and Roon server connected via network to an allo Bridge NAA which I haven't used in a month and just connected it today. 

 

Here is the link note settings etc and funky playing 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/purghw0q1928u0r/20190813_212720.mp4?dl=0

 

 

 

[Bob Stern]

Since several of you are having problems with Roon, does Roon install updates automatically without alerting you?  If so, a Roon update may have changed the way Roon streams to HQP.

[luisma]

22 minutes ago, luisma said:

@Miska I started having the weirdest issue with HQP, and I'm not saying it is HQP but certainly something is weird. 

Settings are SDM and network with NAA. 

When playing from Roon it plays but at an accelerated rate, like a 33 rpm vinyl on 68 rpm, and Roon shows the PCM settings in HQP not the SDM. I have a video. 

Has anyone seen anything like it? Any thoughts? My system is server nuc with Audiolinux and HQPE and Roon server connected via network to an allo Bridge NAA which I haven't used in a month and just connected it today. 

 

Here is the link note settings etc and funky playing 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/purghw0q1928u0r/20190813_212720.mp4?dl=0

 

 

 

Just replaced the allo Bridge by my Celeron Audiolinux NAA and it is back to normal. So something in the allo which runs networkaudiod is making roon / HQPE to play at that accelerated rate, huh go figure that wasn't happening 1 month ago with same server dac etc. Still curious as of what could that be