Rendu Support Thread

[Melvin]

Happy to say all is well this morning. Perhaps all the rebooting and unplugging fixed something. Dunno. A mystery for sure.

[Joaovieira]

Hi. I use sonictransporter i7  connected to Signature Rendu SE optical. As network converter (ethernet to optical) I use Trend Net converter with LPS1.

th sound heRe is just amazingly good.

 

But it stops after some minutes playing ( can be 10 min or 20 min).

 

is this the frame pause issue?

 

will I have to wait for an update in SE software?

[vortecjr]

13 hours ago, Joaovieira said:

Hi. I use sonictransporter i7  connected to Signature Rendu SE optical. As network converter (ethernet to optical) I use Trend Net converter with LPS1.

th sound heRe is just amazingly good.

 

But it stops after some minutes playing ( can be 10 min or 20 min).

 

is this the frame pause issue?

 

will I have to wait for an update in SE software?

This is not a related issue. Have a look at this post and the posts that follow it.

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/56460-rendu-support-thread/?do=findComment&comment=982725

 

[Joaovieira]

Thank you, Jesus. I will try this.

[Joaovieira]

5 hours ago, vortecjr said:

This not a related issue. Have a look at this post and the posts that follow it.

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/56460-rendu-support-thread/?do=findComment&comment=982725

 

It  was already set to 12h. So it is not the issue.

the Sonictransporter is loosing DHCP. I will try to get it fixed.

 

[vortecjr]

6 hours ago, vortecjr said:

This not a related issue. Have a look at this post and the posts that follow it.

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/56460-rendu-support-thread/?do=findComment&comment=982725

 

 

44 minutes ago, Joaovieira said:

It  was already set to 12h. So it is not the issue.

the Sonictransporter is loosing DHCP. I will try to get it fixed.

 

Maybe assign it a fixed IP address. Anyway, if it’s the sT then this is not the correct thread for this. 

[Foggie]

3 hours ago, Miska said:

 

If you have  a smart switch, check that you have 802.3x enabled in it. Default values between different models vary about 50/50...

 

If flow control is enabled and available on managed switches, is there an explanation why that still doesn't fix the issue - Is it because the issue is on the endpoint side of things and isn't able to handle pause frames/flow control?

[Miska]

8 minutes ago, Foggie said:

If flow control is enabled and available on managed switches, is there an explanation why that still doesn't fix the issue?

 

Are you using opticalModule/opticalRendu? If so, those also need to indicate their support for such towards the switch.

 

Some switches can display actual status of the functionality per port, if it is being active or not.

 

Here's some statistics from one of the six switches in my network:

Here Port 1 links to the central patchbay switch.

 

[Foggie]

43 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

Are you using opticalModule/opticalRendu? If so, those also need to indicate their support for such towards the switch.

 

Some switches can display actual status of the functionality per port, if it is being active or not.

 

Here's some statistics from one of the six switches in my network:

Here Port 1 links to the central patchbay switch.

 

using mU with OM at audio rack

 

[Miska]

Just as a curiosity, regarding status screenshot I posted above, most of the ports have never seen NAA protocol at all. For example port 12 is a Core i7 NUC running measurement software on Windows 10. Port 3 is my iMac running macOS.

 

Port 21 is microRendu.

 

[Miska]

7 minutes ago, Foggie said:

using mU with OM at audio rack

 

 

I don't see port-specific info about pause frame support or statistics there.

 

But could be related to the discussion about OM possibly not advertising 802.3x capability.

 

[Foggie]

12 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

I don't see port-specific info about pause frame support or statistics there.

 

But could be related to the discussion about OM possibly not advertising 802.3x capability.

 

Screenshot on flow ctrl

 

 

[Miska]

8 hours ago, Foggie said:

Screenshot on flow ctrl

 

 

That is enabling the support for the port, but doesn't mean it actually becomes active...

 

My HP can also emulate flow control for devices that don't support pause frames, by artificially generating collisions on the link.

 

[Foggie]

6 hours ago, Miska said:

 

That is enabling the support for the port, but doesn't mean it actually becomes active...

 

My HP can also emulate flow control for devices that don't support pause frames, by artificially generating collisions on the link.

 

Ok was just showing that the option was enabled and not sure what else one would need to make that setting active.  My specific switch may have functions to emulate flow cntrl but haven’t gone down that road. 

[Miska]

37 minutes ago, Foggie said:

Ok was just showing that the option was enabled and not sure what else one would need to make that setting active.  My specific switch may have functions to emulate flow cntrl but haven’t gone down that road. 

 

Here's info from the only TP-Link switch I have, as an example it shows which ports have the feature enabled and which ones have it actually active:

 

In this case, there's a network printer on Port 2, which doesn't seem to support flow control, although it is enabled for that port.

 

Maybe your switch has some page where there is either information about the actual status, or some statistics about pause frames.

 

Another statistics example from a Cisco switch:

Here one just needs to check statistics port by port.

 

[Foggie]

@Miska Thanks I’ll take a look this evening 

[Foggie]

19 hours ago, Foggie said:

@Miska Thanks I’ll take a look this evening 

FWIW On my model and firmware, there are no other flow control statistics than what I showed.  In the switching menu its enable or disable pe my screenshot.  The sfp ports run at full 1GB so you cant set it to auto or 100MB in the flow control menu.  Although similar to managed switches there are multitude of other settings, I could configure ingress and egress bandwidth limits to that specific port which might help, but haven't tried. 

 

Seeing as Sonore has released an update to their OS, I will try that as well.

[soares]

Hi Jesus,

 

Just to let you know that I've placed an order (ORDER #SE1159) last Tuesday for an opticalmodule and so far  it was not shipped. 

Have you got an idea on when it will be sent? 

 

Thank you,

 

Jorge Soares

 

p.s.  I also sent you a message using the sonore email address

[barrows]

3 hours ago, soares said:

Hi Jesus,

 

Just to let you know that I've placed an order (ORDER #SE1159) last Tuesday for an opticalmodule and so far  it was not shipped. 

Have you got an idea on when it will be sent? 

 

Thank you,

 

Jorge Soares

 

p.s.  I also sent you a message using the sonore email address

I suspect that it has shipped by now...  Please remember Sonore is a small company, and last week through the weekend, most of us were traveling to, exhibiting at, and traveling back from The Rocky Mountain Audio Fest, and so some orders will be delayed by a few days or so.

[soares]

1 hour ago, barrows said:

I suspect that it has shipped by now...  Please remember Sonore is a small company, and last week through the weekend, most of us were traveling to, exhibiting at, and traveling back from The Rocky Mountain Audio Fest, and so some orders will be delayed by a few days or so.

Thank you so much Barrows!

 

That's perfectly understandable. Just wanted to know if there was already a date for shipment.

And yes please share with us some info on the RMAF! :-)

Kind regards,

 

Jorge 

[barrows]

47 minutes ago, soares said:

Thank you so much Barrows!

 

That's perfectly understandable. Just wanted to know if there was already a date for shipment.

And yes please share with us some info on the RMAF! 🙂

Kind regards,

 

Jorge 

There is a pretty decent thread here on these forums about RMAF....  Right now it is back to work for me, as we do get a little behind while dealing with all the show stuff!

[vortecjr]

7 hours ago, soares said:

Hi Jesus,

 

Just to let you know that I've placed an order (ORDER #SE1159) last Tuesday for an opticalmodule and so far  it was not shipped. 

Have you got an idea on when it will be sent? 

 

Thank you,

 

Jorge Soares

 

p.s.  I also sent you a message using the sonore email address

It shipped today:)

[vortecjr]

Foggie, a couple of things. If these don't apply to you just ignore them. Don't set your ports to 100 speed because the opticaModule only works at 1000 speed. You need to have flow control enabled in the upstream switch. 

 

Also, please do the following:

Update your unit and wait for the Back to Main Menu link and then reboot. The network most be connected and ready to go before you reboot. Test and let us know what happens. 

[soares]

1 hour ago, vortecjr said:

It shipped today:)

Thank you Jesus!

Best,

Jorge

[vortecjr]

On 9/10/2019 at 7:34 AM, Foggie said:

Seeing as Sonore has released an update to their OS, I will try that as well.

Do you have an update for us?