sphinxsix Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Here is an explanation where the inspiration for this thread came from : Let me start with two pieces. A birdsong-inspired part of Messiaen's 'Quatuor Pour La Fin Du Temps'. This is obviously a bird-inspired theme too (probably the most popular one ever): 1. Ethno version. 2. Classical version. 3. Dance version. Hope you're ready to have some fun! christopher3393 1 Link to comment
christopher3393 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 This is the bird-bomb! Olivier Messiaen: Catalogue d'Oiseaux Pierre-Laurent Aimard More? OK: You can sample it on Spotify as well. Lots of positive reviews. https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8404435--messiaen-catalogue-doiseaux-books-1-7-complete sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
Popular Post AnotherSpin Posted November 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2018 This song was a tribute to Janis Joplin. wgscott and christopher3393 2 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, christopher3393 said: This is the bird-bomb! Olivier Messiaen: Catalogue d'Oiseaux Pierre-Laurent Aimard More? OK: You can sample it on Spotify as well. Lots of positive reviews. https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8404435--messiaen-catalogue-doiseaux-books-1-7-complete I bet it is! I remember upvoting the first video when you posted it a couple of months ago. I found the whole performance amazing! Thanks for reminding me about it! 3 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: This song was a tribute to Janis Joplin. Something from me : BTW the song has been Ajax Amsterdam fans anthem for years. Here is their performance featuring a special guest appearance by Ky-Mani Marley. clipper 1 Link to comment
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rando Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Whirly-birds. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
Popular Post sphinxsix Posted November 6, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, rando said: Whirly-birds. Not OT at all IMO but I think I personally prefer the balance between strings and helicobirds sound of this recording : 1 hour ago, rando said: The Larksong seems really charming. I knew the title, didn't know the music. Performance recommendation(s), please. As for Rautavaara: Concerto for Birds and Orchestra - this is really SOMETHING! One can hear REAL BIRDS here! Just finished listening to the whole (!) piece. Again - performance recommendation(s), please. And speaking of larks. This thread is developing beyond all my expectations! christopher3393 and rando 2 Link to comment
rando Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I hope you take it to heart that my interest in the Stockhausen hasn't matured to the level of having preferred versions. So it was great that you self recommended on that one. As for "The Lark Ascending". There must be a million recordings. This is a piece with a fair amount of room for interpretation and I liked the straighter version Steinbacher played in that video. Going to defer to others for a more vivid and encompassing list of suggested recordings. I could rattle off a RVW expert or two but they could refine it to a specific release. Offhand I can think of two other works that call for an actual bird;. Ketèlbey "In a Monastery Garden", Respighi "Pines of Rome: The Pines of the Janiculum". Faris on Philips and Neschling on BIS would respectively be good places to start. If you can hear the bird on the latter your walls will be shaking by the end! Rautavaara's "Cantus Arcticus". Your choices for recordings are primarily the Segerstram you listened to, Vänskä, and Lintu. This is really a wild piece recordings lacking the pristine SQ of the those three should be considered on. Almost across the board any Nordic compositions that don't currently enjoy massive popularity can be found with excellent playing on Finlandia. sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
wgscott Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I got this in 1982 from LL Bean when in college in Maine, on thick vinyl that easily scratches. I finally broke down and got a digital copy as well. Hugo9000 1 Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Bird and Diz sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2018 https://www.the-scientist.com/features/birds-may-make-music-but-they-lack-rhythm-31935 sphinxsix, Hugo9000 and rando 2 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2014/11/04/turns-out-these-birds-create-songs-with-the-same-rules-humans-do-but-does-that-mean-theyre-musical/?utm_term=.a7fe0a16288b Turns out I saw an article about Birds making music the other day, and have been reading about it. christopher3393, sphinxsix, Hugo9000 and 1 other 2 2 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post rando Posted November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: Turns out I saw an article about Birds making music the other day, and have been reading about it. The most involving aspect is trying not to draw parallels between birdbrained musicians and smart people crowing. Or more seasonally,? (No I'm not picking on you AudioDoctor for bringing up a salient point.) In terms of pure beauty and inspiration. The cuckoo song has inspired almost more music than any other bird. Yet it is a watchword for simpleton behaviors. While any of the highly intelligent birds you could care to name hardly merit mention in the vocalizations category. At points birdsong was so prevalent it inspired less peaceful music bereft of anything nearing the sounds of nature one could take pleasure in by say opening a window. Which required undertaking very special pains to avoid surreptitious comparisons to more strident, jarring calls and mating rituals. The common Cuckoo two note call with the interval of a major or minor third is neither high pitched sweetness nor calm shattering dissonance. Quote The famous birdsong-sequence from the second movement of Beethoven's Pastorale Symphony, with original bird images. The Nightingale - played by the Flute - with its characteristic whistle followed by an accelerating trilling sound; The Quail - played by the Oboe - with its trisyllabic song The Cuckoo - played by the Clarinet 4 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: It's too early in the morning here to have this sprung on me. Thank you for the unexpected laugh. Not sure if you were aware the cultural ground this currently rests upon in the US is hardly where one aspires towards. It has become the punchline to numerous jokes to the effect shouting Freebird is going to have hands reaching to cover eyes while stifling a laugh. Don't let this take away from your enjoyment of it. AnotherSpin, sphinxsix and christopher3393 1 2 Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, rando said: It's too early in the morning here to have this sprung on me. Thank you for the unexpected laugh. Not sure if you were aware the cultural ground this currently rests upon in the US is hardly where one aspires towards. It has become the punchline to numerous jokes to the effect shouting Freebird is going to have hands reaching to cover eyes while stifling a laugh. Don't let this take away from your enjoyment of it. I am not overly serious when posting in CA most of the time, if it answers your comment. rando 1 Link to comment
Popular Post christopher3393 Posted November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just found this playlist on Spotify: "Birdsong in Classical Music". Hope it is of some use: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX13IHBurI057 Also found this much more selective list: http://www.classical-music.com/article/six-best-pieces-music-inspired-birdsong rando and sphinxsix 1 1 Link to comment
Musicophile Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I'm suprised nobody has posted this one yet. OK, so the bird doesn't sing, but it's still a bird. sphinxsix 1 Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
Musicophile Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 And, on a slightly less serious note: AudioDoctor 1 Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 12 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: https://www.the-scientist.com/features/birds-may-make-music-but-they-lack-rhythm-31935 actually, the current thinking (see the parrot video) is that rhythm in birds is related to vocal mimicry (at least at higher levels of mimicry - I'm sure some guy is trying to get NIH to fund a study on cat birds right now) Gloggle the key words and you can see what is already published AudioDoctor 1 Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Musicophile said: And, on a slightly less serious note: I watched some of the movies with these penguins in them with my nephews and nieces, and they are hilarious. Musicophile 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Lightstream Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 The legendary Bird Song by Lene Lovich from 1979: Go where you feel most alive. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 16 hours ago, rando said: I hope you take it to heart that my interest in the Stockhausen hasn't matured to the level of having preferred versions. So it was great that you self recommended on that one. My recommendation was based purely on my volume balance of strings vs helicobirds preference, was never able to listen to this piece for more than 3 minutes and these two youtube videos are actually the only versions I 'know'. 7 hours ago, rando said: Quote The famous birdsong-sequence from the second movement of Beethoven's Pastorale Symphony, with original bird images. The Nightingale - played by the Flute - with its characteristic whistle followed by an accelerating trilling sound; The Quail - played by the Oboe - with its trisyllabic song The Cuckoo - played by the Clarinet Wow! Didn't know this is a birdsong sequence (should have been obvious to me from the start)! Sounds more amazing than ever to me now - a real bird-inspired little masterpiece! 12 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: Bird Of course! Not many jazzmen were interested in ornithology more than him! 15 hours ago, wgscott said: I got this in 1982 from LL Bean when in college in Maine, on thick vinyl that easily scratches. I finally broke down and got a digital copy as well. Seems you're seriously interested in birds too. BTW which loon calls do sound more realistic - analogue or digital ones.? On 11/6/2018 at 7:21 PM, christopher3393 said: This is the bird-bomb! Olivier Messiaen: Catalogue d'Oiseaux Pierre-Laurent Aimard A bird-bomb indeed! Did a very quick comparison of this and two other versions. The first impression was Anatol Ugorski's performance may be a bit too explosive and too little birdy at times for my taste, Peter Hill's performance is quite interesting but I think I'm leaning towards Aimard's version. 6 hours ago, christopher3393 said: Just found this playlist on Spotify: "Birdsong in Classical Music". Hope it is of some use: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX13IHBurI057 Also found this much more selective list: http://www.classical-music.com/article/six-best-pieces-music-inspired-birdsong I don't know how to express my gratitude for this find! Awesome! Thanks! 1 hour ago, Musicophile said: I'm suprised nobody has posted this one yet. OK, so the bird doesn't sing, but it's still a bird. I don't know if it can be called singing but they make sounds for sure: A bird song of the day - albatross song. It's worth noting that the video starts with a long bird's-eye view shot (it's a crane ). christopher3393 1 Link to comment
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sphinxsix Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, christopher3393 said: Is it possible to upvote a post twice? BTW who are the Trashmen.?! Gotta google those guys! Link to comment
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