rickca Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Well, that was a quick flame out. Too bad. We could have learned some good stuff rather than learn about his personality. I wonder if this contempt for listeners is prevalent in the industry, or if he just got his buttons pushed. MikeyFresh 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, crenca said: Anyone have any hard data? There must be companies that analyze sales data and trends for various segments of the audio industry and sell reports to manufacturers. Anyone know which companies do that? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 23 hours ago, Rt66indierock said: It is probably more views than the MQA website has gotten this year. MQA has a website? I've been following this thread from the beginning. I never visited the MQA website until just now. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted January 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Samuel T Cogley said: MQA is a gift to audiophiles It's like someone saying I can get single origin coffee cut with chicory root at no extra cost! crenca, mansr, opus101 and 2 others 3 2 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, Don Hills said: Look carefully at how the labels expect to recoup their investment. They've paid the license fees and paid for the work of encoding their back catalogues. They wouldn't do that if they didn't expect to profit in some way. The labels are investors in the MQA business. So they were kind of paying themselves to encode their catalogs, and will share in MQA profits should they materialize. I'm not sure how big a stake in MQA they got for their very modest capital injection. How do you distinguish between collusion and cooperation of 3 firms that dominate the industry? MikeyFresh 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Don Hills said: Can you expand on your thinking? Well, I probably shouldn't promote more conspiracy theories. I'll see whether the idea resonates with other people. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
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Popular Post rickca Posted January 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Lee Scoggins said: The real problem here are armchair idiots like yourself who can't respect a differing opinion. Go back to school and take a Debating 101 course and learn how to present some points backed up by some evidence before slamming the journalists who are working hard to explore audio. The industry insider credentials and connections you reference in your Part-Time Audiophile article are irrelevant to debating the merits of MQA. MrMoM and Mordikai 1 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said: I doubt we could replicate that through other formats, such as FLAC, etc. Exactly. Now ask yourself why it wouldn't happen with FLAC. It's because there is no potential for DRM or licensing revenue with FLAC. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said: So what you have is a healthy ecosystem of players. There's your next article for PTA ... how everybody makes money from MQA. Then we can stop this silly pretense that MQA is good for consumers. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted January 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2018 Every one of MQA's CA shills ambassadors are clones and I will no longer engage with them. It's tiresome and pointless. I actually think MQA loves the controversy because it keeps them in the spotlight. Turn the spotlight off. MikeyFresh and MrMoM 2 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Fair Hedon said: It seems he is buying the notion that phones are the "gate way" to high res. That is the latest MQA talking point. MikeyFresh 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Maybe Disney should buy MQA. They could put it in Fantasyland. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said: The sense I get is that Bob Stuart has created something clever here and the armchair engineers on CA can't keep up with his math. I have an M.Eng in Information Systems with a focus on optimization and simulation. It is math, math and more math. Shadders 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted January 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, Shadders said: Has Lee gone home ? There's always another one coming along. MrMoM, Samuel T Cogley and Fokus 2 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted January 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ajax said: When Miska and Mansr etc. began debunking MQA when it first came out I was actually annoyed at them for "raining on the parade" as it sounded like a great concept. I am now firmly in their camp. I really think @Miska and @mansr were among the MVP contributors to CA in 2017 for this work. MikeyFresh, Tsarnik, semente and 5 others 6 2 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lee Scoggins said: Oh, fuck off. So Lee goes the route of Michael Lavorgna et al. Stay classy, Lee. Mordikai, MikeyFresh and esldude 2 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Why doesn't MQA just do some celebrity endorsements? Just get Jay-Z to tell the kids who own all those smartphones you can't be cool unless you listen to MQA. I'm sure it's coming. I think MQA made a strategic error in marketing to audiophiles. Just detour around the audiophiles and go for mass market acceptance. Mordikai 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 11:04 PM, Don Hills said: It's about control. The labels see their loss of revenue as being caused by a loss of control. They want the control back. On an ironic note, here's a quote from the CEO of Roon Roon brings back the feel of owning music. Don Hills and Pure Vinyl Club 1 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, ShawnC said: They don't need em. They have the record labels, that's the motherload. The genius behind it was to get the software and hardware manufacturers to pay licensing fees also. I agree, that train left the station a long time ago. You don't think MQA needs to generate consumer demand? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Thuaveta said: You really think they're going to leave it up to consumers to demand anything ? Because I hear both the RIAA and JAS are supportive of the technology. OK I agree with both you and @ShawnC that MQA momentum will continue because the industry wants it. I'm simply saying that marketing to audiophiles has resulted in pushback and it would have been a lot easier to just put it out there as something cool. No need to convince anyone that it actually does what it claims. ShawnC 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I wonder if Bob Stuart has convinced Jimmy Iovine that MQA is the future. Oh wait, Jimmy is leaving Apple once all his shares are vested. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 30 minutes ago, Thuaveta said: MQA is a gift to audio. Anybody who whines about (MQA) is ridiculous. So you don't like MQA? No music for you! Thuaveta 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I also wonder what Softbank/Sprint thinks about its $200 million 'game-changing' investment in TIDAL. We are coming up on the one year anniversary of that deal. Has anyone heard anything about it recently? MikeyFresh 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rickca Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, BratStrangler said: MQA will go nowhere. Formats are dead. There are a whole bunch of audio companies who have invested in MQA implementation for their products that hope you're wrong. How did MQA manage to get so many partners onboard? It's a remarkable achievement even if you think the whole thing is misguided (as I do). Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
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