MQA is Vaporware

[botrytis]

5 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

That witch ain't dead just yet.  You anti-mQa partisans should be ashamed 🙂

 

 

[mrjktcvs]

I find it amusing that the protractors of system have to point to white papers to "prove" that it sounds better. If they have any kind of viable product at all, it should be immediately apparent regardless of the recording or the playback hardware. Somewhere, Ray Dolby is laughing his ass off.

[botrytis]

6 minutes ago, mrjktcvs said:

I find it amusing that the protractors of system have to point to white papers to "prove" that it sounds better. If they have any kind of viable product at all, it should be immediately apparent regardless of the recording or the playback hardware. Somewhere, Ray Dolby is laughing his ass off.

 

Or shaking his head. I mean audio is full of snake oil salesmen.

[The Computer Audiophile]

It would be terrible for people to show up and give Ken Forsythe the Ken Forsythe treatment. Not letting him speak and interrupting his presentation would be just terrible. He would never do such a thing :~)

 

[botrytis]

My wife will be with me, I don't think she would allow me to be rude.

 

 

[Samuel T Cogley]

23 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

It would be terrible for people to show up and give Ken Forsythe the Ken Forsythe treatment. Not letting him speak and interrupting his presentation would be just terrible. He would never do such a thing :~)

 

 

I think the point is: you ARE better than that.

[The Computer Audiophile]

5 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

I think the point is: you ARE better than that.

 

I'd never act like that on my worst day. 

[botrytis]

10 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I'd never act like that on my worst day. 

 

[botrytis]

[KeenObserver]

20 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

It would be terrible for people to show up and give Ken Forsythe the Ken Forsythe treatment. Not letting him speak and interrupting his presentation would be just terrible. He would never do such a thing :~)

 

 

So it appears they are still actively promoting this scheme.

 

Perhaps they are just keeping it going in order to pad their retirement accounts.

[Rt66indierock]

I won’t be at AXPONA to hear Ken Forsythe talk about MQA. It is my birthday and I be in southern Utah hiking. Here are three questions I’d like Ken Forsythe to answer.

 

1.       Why does the MQA Mastering process change the soundstage of recordings?

2.       When starting with an analog master tape why is noise reduction very good on some MQA Masters and nonexistent on others?

3.       How much does the MQA Pro Emulator George Massenburg uses cost and how do I get one?

 

Whoever is going have fun and stay safe.

[botrytis]

I don't plan to go to that presentation, since I might start doing this...

 

https://youtu.be/w6El3gdv2ek

[MarkusBarkus]

On 4/13/2022 at 11:46 PM, Archimago said:

One day, the Twitter and Facebook feed just stops perhaps...

...the blue dot fades out and the matrix is revealed. 

[botrytis]

Hey, I call it like I see it....

[Stereo]

Hope Deezer doesn’t get polluted. No mention of it in the article but Deezer needs improvements to better compete and MQA is so not an improvement. Just questioning it’s ties under the possible forthcoming deal. https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/spotify-rival-deezer-strikes-spac-deal-valuing-it-at-about-1-1-billion-11650297600

[The Computer Audiophile]

16 minutes ago, Stereo said:

Hope Deezer doesn’t get polluted. No mention of it in the article but Deezer needs improvements to better compete and MQA is so not an improvement. Just questioning it’s ties under the possible forthcoming deal. https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/spotify-rival-deezer-strikes-spac-deal-valuing-it-at-about-1-1-billion-11650297600

Interesting. Going public via SPAC. I wouldn’t put my money on Deezer catering to the global music streaming market. I’d say there is a niche the owners of I2PO want to address and/or it’s a vanity project to mix with another brand down the road. Without differentiation, as you said, Deezer is how another company jumpstarts a project it wants to undertake. Rather than start from scratch, I2PO just buys them and moves forward. 

[RichardSF]

4 hours ago, Stereo said:

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/spotify-rival-deezer-strikes-spac-deal-valuing-it-at-about-1-1-billion-11650297600

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Access Industries, the industrial conglomerate founded by billionaire Len Blavatnik that controls Warner Music Group Corp. Other Deezer investors include Universal Music Group, Sony Group Corp. and French telco operator Orange SA

I found that the music conglomerates also invest in Spotify. What a strange relationship, to invest in streaming services and strangle them with licensing fees at the same time.

 

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Deezer, which has yet to turn a profit, is aiming to reach €1 billion revenue by 2025 and be profitable by that same year. Deezer’s 2021 operating loss was €120.6 million, compared with an operating loss of €88.3 million the previous year.

Their losses grew significantly last year. I'm a bit skeptical that they'll suddenly be profitable within a few years 😊.

 

BTW, interesting topic but I don't see that it's relevant for this thread.

[Rt66indierock]

On 4/19/2022 at 1:12 AM, RichardSF said:

I found that the music conglomerates also invest in Spotify. What a strange relationship, to invest in streaming services and strangle them with licensing fees at the same time.

 

Their losses grew significantly last year. I'm a bit skeptical that they'll suddenly be profitable within a few years 😊.

 

BTW, interesting topic but I don't see that it's relevant for this thread.

 

I bet the labels have a nice profit on their shares in Spotify. It should make up for their losses on MQA Ltd. 

 

I doubt music streaming will ever be profitable but if Apple, Amazon and Google don't care why not bleed the others dry?

[Rt66indierock]

Another sheep or shill moment on Noah Bronstein’s Wall of Sound blog. MQA – Other Perspectives on Steaming  and another new low for the audio press. My comment to him which is awaiting moderation.

 

Noah, I have to ask why write this now? Simple, MQA Ltd is trying to raise more funds to continue operating because they lack the revenue to continue without it. They need people to talk about it because after eight years, MQA still has no traction in the market. I have a saying about what you wrote and the timing. I’ll post it in my MQA is Vaporware thread (still getting 30,000 views a month after more than six years).

 

MQA after all the promotion by the audio press has a streaming market share of 00.05%.

 

Finally, you call your blog the Wall of Sound but guess what. MQA doesn’t do Pet Sounds or any other wall of sound recording well.

[botrytis]

@Rt66indierock I saw that article, was going to respond, I have wasted enough time on the shills of mQa. 

 

I am just going to listen away, at home and be happy.

[KeenObserver]

Anyone attend the MQA seminar at Axpona?

I'm sure they were breaking down the doors to get in.

[botrytis]

I ignored it. Why bother, we know it snake oil at its finest.

 

[KeenObserver]

Thought it would give us, and perhaps MQA, if anyone is still interested in MQA.

[garrardguy60]

On 3/29/2022 at 10:13 AM, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

I can't imagine what Scoggins could have said to you over the phone to make you believe he'd changed somehow.  With all due respect (and I mean that), he totally played you.

 

But what's more unbelievable to me is he now posts as the Chief Executive Officer at Nextscreen, LLC and somehow he still doesn't feel any need to dial back the disingenuousness.

 

This makes me really question the integrity of the publications under his control.

 

 

It's really sad that Lee is allowed back. If Lee can come back, can the objectivists come back too?

[The Computer Audiophile]

6 minutes ago, garrardguy60 said:

 

It's really sad that Lee is allowed back. If Lee can come back, can the objectivists come back too?

Lee has since been banned again. 

 

Most of the objectivists asked for their accounts to be closed because they didn't want to abide by the site rules. I guess shouting from the hill tops (in the objective forum) is far less interesting when the subjective leaning audiophiles aren't listening. 

 

If people want to come back, they can contact me just like Lee did. I give people the benefit of the doubt in most cases.