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    T+A DAC 200 D/A Converter Review

     

     

    T+A has set the bar extremely high with the DAC 200. This DAC is one for the ages. It sounds fantastic, looks classic, functions seamlessly, is well supported, and is priced competitively. Based on my listening habits and experience with more DACs than I can remember, this would be my number one choice for a DAC anywhere near the DAC 200's price. Everything about the DAC 200 is just that good. Period.

     

    The T+A DAC 200 is so good, it brought me back to two channel stereo listening, from my one of a kind 7.1.4 Atmos system, and figuratively glued me to my chair. I'm enthralled with the music coming from my system, through the DAC 200. Given that my immersive system is capable of truly amazing performance, T+A is doing more than a few things right with the DAC 200.

     

    The first time I was dramatically drawn back to my two channel system, I was listening to Lady Blackbird's album Black Acid Soul. On tracks such as Five Feet Tall, and It'll Never Happen Again, Lady Blackbird just reached out through my Wilson Alexia speakers, grabbed me by the collar, and made me sit up straight in my listening chair. What I heard was so full of emotion, effort, and talent that I had to run my warm hand up and down my arm as the goosebumps sent a chill through my body. The DAC 200 pulls incredible music and performances from ones and zeros, like nothing in its class. 

     

    Let's dig into what makes the DAC 200 tick, before going further about its stellar performance.

     

     

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    T+A DAC 200 Details

     

    The DAC 200 has a long list of meaningful features that don't just check a box for the consumerist with a spreadsheet. These are A List features for music aficionados that set this DAC apart from the competition. The most impactful of these features is the T+A Path Separation Technology. According to T+A, "Both PCM and DSD have their own converter, specifically tailored to their requirements ... For PCM signals we use our quadruple converter, whereas DSD files are processed using the T+A True 1-bit converter, which is unique in the world." The DAC 200 is literally two digital to analog converters in one chassis. It's the best of both worlds, without the requirement of purchasing two DACs and all the headache that would follow, when one needs to switch DACs between playing PCM and DSD. The DAC 200 reads the input signal and routes the audio accordingly. 

     

    T+A offers four different filters for internal upsampling in the DAC 200. If I had to guess, I'd say most DACs on the market don't offer manual filter selections. T+A prefers to give the listener options. The options are FIR 1 for extremely linear frequency response, FIR 2 for improved peak handling, BEZ 1 for Bezier interpolation and IIR filtering, and the BEZ 2 pure Bezier interpolator for "perfect" timing and dynamics. One great aspect of these filters is that there's no wrong choices. It's all about personal preference.

     

    Those who prefer non-oversampling (NOS) DACs because they like to use an application such as HQPlayer to upsample externally, are also in luck. The DAC 200 features two crucial pieces of this puzzle. First, it offers two different NOS modes. The difference between the modes is a low pass filter setting of 120 kHz or 60 kHz for 1x sample rate material. Second, the DAC 200 accepts ultra high sample rates up through 768 kHz PCM and DSD1024. High sample rate inputs are critical for those who upsample externally. 

     

    Publish T+A DAC 200System Angle.jpgBased on my extended listening through the DAC 200, the best sound in my system was achieved using HQPlayer to upsample all audio to DSD256, using poly-sync-gauss-long (1x), poly-sync-gauss-hires-lp (2x), and the ASDM7ECv2 modulator. If there was a "right" filter and modulator, there would be no choices available in HQPlayer. However, filter and modulator selection are all about personal preference, whether done externally or inside the DAC. 

     

    Similar to the T+A Path Separation Technology in concept, is the T+A Digital Analogue Separation System inside the DAC 200. This, "Utilizes ultra-fast digital isolators from Silicon Labs to provide galvanic separation between the analogue and digital sections. ... the mains sections for the analogue and digital signal paths are also completely separated galvanically." Takign this a step further, the timing critical clocking signals for the D to A converters are isolated using special high frequency impulse transformers to insure jitter free performance, that is unobtainable using integrated isolators. As readers can see, separation is a big deal to the T+A engineering team, and it should be a big deal for music lovers who care about sound quality. 

     

    On the outside, the DAC 200's design is elegant and technical at the same time. There are quite a few physical buttons, to access that which needs quick accessing, but they look nice and have a solid feel. The volume control features satisfying detents as it's rotated, and also has a very solid feel. The front display is large enough to be useful from the listening position, to see the selected input and current sample rate. However, the other items are quite small and require the listener be up close and personal with the DAC 200. 

     

    The stars of the front panel show are clearly the analog meters. The T+A engineering team hit a home run with these on many levels. Of course they look really nice and contribute to the "audio fireplace" effect. But, T+A took them even further by enabling the meters to work in three different modes, each selectable by the listener. The meters can operate in a more traditional VU scale monitoring the input or output level, display the temperature of the entire system and output stages separately, or display the quality of the incoming audio stream. According to the DAC 200 manual, "The left meter [scale - 0 +] shows whether the clock frequency of the incoming data stream of the currently active source is operating at the standard frequency. If the needle is exactly in the middle of the scale, the frequency of the source is exactly at the standard frequency. The display range covers -150ppm to +150 ppm. Digital sources complying to the standards should be in the range +/- 50ppm. The right meter [scale 0...100] indicates the error rate of the currently active input. With good transmission quality, the display should be at 0."

     

    Both internally and externally, the T+A engineering team has done a marvelous job pairing form and function, with the main goal of accurate music reproduction. 

     

     

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    Back To Listening

     

    Getting back into listening mode, I spent time using the DAC 200 in different digital configurations. I settled on two different sources. One, a custom built SOtM computer using the new SOtM sMB-Q370 Motherboard, PCIe USB card, Ethernet card, clocking add-ons and power supplies all supplied by SOtM. Two, my stalwart Sonore signatureRendu SE Optical running NAA software. These sources and HQPlayer Embedded came together to create a really special sound.

     

    folder.jpgListening to Esa-Pekka Salonen conducting the Los Angeles Philharmonic in Le Sacre du Printemps, really enabled the DAC 200 to shine in multiple areas. The best of those was reproduction of percussion, from tiny cymbal details to texture on drumheads to booming thunder-like strikes. Through some components we get either texture or boom, with one precluding the other. Not so, through the DAC 200. I heard it all with great detail and transients and power. I listened to Night On Bald Mountain several times through the DAC 200, each time as enjoyable as the previous one. The DAC 200 never disappointed. 

     

    Using the same track, but switching to the DAC 200's built-in Bezier filters and sending the DAC bit perfect 24/96 PCM audio, one could her an equally engaging performance with nuance and detail, but it was just a skosh softer than HQPlayer and DSD256. External upsample is the icing on the cake, while the cake is delicious in its own right. Listeners uninterested in external upsampling should consider this DAC a 10 out of 10, with the ability to go to 11 via HQPlayer if necessary.

     

    cover.jpgMoving back to HQPlayer upsampling to DSD256 on the SOtM computer, I played Greg Brown's album Honey in the Lion's Head. On the track Who Killed Cock Robin, I could smell Brown's coffee and cigarette laden breath. I don't know if he smokes or drinks coffee, but I won't let that ruin a perfect illusion brought on by such realistic audio reproduction through the T+A DAC 200. This track, and entire album, has a pure and organic realism through the DAC 200, that just isn't present in many competitive DACs. I was listening to tracks that I'd typically skip, because the sound was so good. This isn't a case of listening to music only because it sounds good, but rather, letting oneself be exposed to new music initially because of the sound, and realizing afterward that I was previously missing out on some really great music.

     

    Thanks to my 7.1.4 Atmos system, I've recently been exposed to some great prog rock. A new favorite of mine is the band Porcupine Tree and its album Closure/Continuation. Listening to the album in stereo is a very different experience, especially because band leader Steven Wilson's enthusiasm for immersive audio and talent mixing in Atmos, has lead him to produce incredible surround albums. 

     

    ppcc.jpgI was a touch nervous that the DAC 200 would fall flat when I listened to Porcupine Tree. Let's be real, any stereo DAC has its hands and feet tied together when competing against a 12 channel immersive system, playing an album created with Atmos in mind. Listening to the two channel stereo mix of C/C, the track Harridan sounds great through the DC 200. From the opening bass intro to the hard hitting kick drums to the immensely powerful guitar riffs that kick in after a slight lull in the music around the 3:15 mark of the track. Any fault I could hear in the sound was completely unrelated to the DAC 200, and solely because I was comparing the Atmos and stereo mixes in my head. Overall, the DAC 200 delivered everything there was to deliver on this album, and nothing more. Speed, power, and detail were all there, when present on the recording. Just as they should be.  

     

    One activity I wish I could've done is compare the DAC 200 with the DAC 8 from T+A. I really liked the DAC 8, as I do much of what T+A designes. It's solid engineering-based audio company that delivers on its promise. Going solely by memory, which is fraught with issues, I'd say the DAC 200 is in a completely different class from the DAC 8. It really isn't a fair comparison. The DAC 200 is far better than the price difference between the two suggests. 

     


    Conclusion

     

    cash@2x.pngMany years from now, when T+A ceases DAC 200 production, this DAC will have an immediate cult following, and values on the used market will shoot up. This is one of those DACs that'll be sought after for decades. It does so much, so right. It's a product for which the CASH List was created. The DAC 200 is among the leaders, at any price, on our list of recommended hardware, and easily the leader among its peers anywhere near its $7,125 MSRP. 

     

    This DAC was designed to use its internal filters or take advantage of the great horsepower of an external upsampling computer running HQPlayer. Either way, the T+A DAC 200 delivers the goods. It's a 10 out of 10 on its own, and an 11 out of 10 with the world class DSP from Jussi Laako's HQPlayer. 

     

    After listening through the DAC 200 for a few weeks, using it with different sources, reading the user manual a couple times, and exchanging emails with the T+A team, I realized that T+A gets it. I'm willing to bet that many readers will immediately understand what "it" is, because they've also been immersed in this world of digital audio for many years and tried many different solutions in an effort to perfect their audio systems. T+A enables many of us to have the best of both worlds because the company gets it on so many levels, embraces cutting edge technologies, and has set a new standard for digital to analog conversion at a competitive price.  

     

    Well done T+A, well done.


     

     

     

     

     

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    On 9/2/2022 at 1:19 PM, bbosler said:

    I'll take a stab at that... diminishing returns kick in very early with today's DACs. Having tried a variety of high end DACs over the past few years I am convinced that spending huge amounts gets you very little.. and most of what you get is small differences, not better, just different. I've had all of the below for extended periods. Maybe I have a tin ear, but IMHO anything above the $2000 Schiit gets you nothing but bragging rights about how much you spent. And there are DACs below that price that perform very, very well. I've had these along with various servers , ethernet switches,  USB  re-clockers, master clocks, and a variety of digital cable... etc.......all long gone ...... Nobody that has dropped $20K + on all this stuff wants to hear it or believe it, ,, but  save your money 

     

    • Chord DAVE with MScaler and external linear supplies
    • DCS Rossini with clock
    • EMM Meiner MA3
    • Denafrips Terminator + with Daiai DDC
    • PS Audio Directstream
    • Schiit Yggdrasil LIM
    • some I can't recall at the moment

     

    @bbosler I tend to agree with your DAC comments. I have a Benchmark DAC3B (a little bright but love it), and 2 Musetec 005's for my office and Livingroom. The Benchmark is for the RAAL VM-1a headphone amp.

     

    I looked at your A'gon profile and could not see what DAC you currently use. Do you mind sharing that? 

     

    BTW - We have similar tastes in amps. I also use Benchmark AHB2 monos for my office KEF LS50 Metas and a KRELL Dou 175XD as my office RAAL SR1a headphone amp. 

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    On 9/3/2022 at 10:35 AM, ericuco said:

    I really wish that T+A would offer two other versions (PCM only and DSD only) given that each is segregated internally. Yes, I know this is wishful thinking and probably never going to happen due to a number of factors (mfg, testing, marketing, etc).  But it seems that lots of people are in one camp (PCM or DSD) or the other so why have to pay for components you are probably never going to use. The same is true of headphone vs speakers.

    What a narrow viewpoint, I would consider a DAC that excludes DSD not worthy of an audition.

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    2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    From the manual. 
     

    if OVS is set to NOS1 or NOS2, the the filtering would just be 120 kHz or 60 kHz. 
     

    just my guess. 

     

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    If thats the case when sent max rate PCM then that would not be bad at all. Of course, the easy solution is to just send it DSD, but what if I felt PCM sounded better when upsampled with HQP? I was just surprised that the device with a built in NAA doesn't have an explicit NOS mode. Perhaps T&A doesn't expect anyone to send it anything other than upsampled DSD when using HQP.

    Either way, thanks Chris.

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    6 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

    Miska, I just re-read your message to me as well as T&As emails.  You mentioned that due to the chips in use being SDM chips (for PCM) that Hardware Modulators were still in use

     

    From the 16x rate PCM input, rest of oversampling is done by copying the sample N times and then it goes to the modulator.

     

    6 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

    Are you both talking about the same thing?

     

    Maybe, but I don't know for sure.

     

    5 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    if OVS is set to NOS1 or NOS2, the the filtering would just be 120 kHz or 60 kHz.

     

    These are the analog reconstruction filters that should be always active. It is great that there's a possibility to select between two possibilities.

     

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     Hello and interesting to read that you have used a recording I can both relate to and which although not exactly being purist simply mic´d, at least can serve as some kind of reference point to how large scale acoustic music tends to sound in a real hall one of the most challenging tasks for any HIFI system to cope with.

    I have never been to Disney Hall where DGG recorded this album with the LAPO and Esa Pekka Salonen conducting, but it happened to be the very last recording that DGG released  as an SACD disc. And I  happended to be covering some rehearsals and live  concerts in Stockholm as photographer at that time and heard the same music live and interviewed Esa Pekka about this recording which he quite enthusiastically recommended as an example of how he generally  hears things from his conductor´s podium. 

    But I think you may have quoted a few tech fact things wrong about it in your review?

    And also possibly  got a couple of technical  facts regarding the T&A wrong?

    There is as far as I know no such format as 24/28? The native recording like most of DGG´s recordings in recent times is a native 24/96 pcm recording.

    I  have never auditioned the "effect" of converting native pcm to high rate  DSD as HQ Player does ,but thanks to Rajiv aka Austinpop who very kindly PGGB´d it from the cd layer of my SACD copy I also find it quite impressive upscaled to 24/705khz  PCM especially by DGG standards, via my humble Chord Qutest and both via my electrostatic speakers and  via headphones.

    I do not strongly  belong in any particular camp : PCM versus DSD but  according to Rob Watts DSD as a  digital format is "fundamentally flawed".

    Anyway, if and when  opportunity to audition the T&A arise I will "lend it an ear" .

    Cheers Chrille

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    7 hours ago, One and a half said:

    What a narrow viewpoint, I would consider a DAC that excludes DSD not worthy of an audition.

    I think you may have misunderstood what @ericuco was saying. 

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    9 hours ago, yyz said:

     

    I looked at your A'gon profile and could not see what DAC you currently use. Do you mind sharing that? 

     

    I use the DACs in my Trinnov AL 16.. 

     

    further to my point.. I just got the latest Stereophile with recommended components. Not that I consider them to be THE authority but if you look the digital section you will find

    • 18 digital file players with an A+ rating and 5 more with an A rating
    • 11 digital processors with an A+ rating and 13 more with an A rating

    If there are currently 23 file players and 24 DACs rated the "best attainable sound for a component of it's kind"  including a Roon Nucleus+, how much different can they possibly be? There is a $1300 A+ DAC and a $600 DAC rated A along with those for $30K +.. AND that doesn't include all of the equipment that Stereophile hasn't reviewed

     

    I think all of this calls into question Stereophile's methodology, motivations,  and ratings structure, but at some point you are buying bragging rights. My contention is that this point comes much earlier than many of us care to admit.

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    6 hours ago, Miska said:

    From the 16x rate PCM input, rest of oversampling is done by copying the sample N times and then it goes to the modulator.

     

     

    Ok, so what is a modulator? What does it do?

     

    6 hours ago, Miska said:

    These are the analog reconstruction filters that should be always active. It is great that there's a possibility to select between two possibilities.

     

     

    Are these just a filter that cuts off anything above a certain frequency?

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    Brilliant review, may be time to start saving. Question on the HDMI input: Is this compatible w/DDC's that output IIS?

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    On 9/2/2022 at 12:25 AM, Andrewteee said:

    Appreciate the review. Do you know what the differences are between the DAC 200 and HA 200? Other than the headphone connections on the HA200. As far as I can tell researching online, the HA 200 is the DAC 200 plus the additional headphone outputs -- and I might be headphone only, iow not audio outs to an amplifier. 

    The complete digital and D/A section are identical. Power supply and analog parts are different.

    The DAC200 has a balanced analog preamp built in with a 50 Watt linear analog power supply, the HA 200 has a very powerful class-A headphone amp plus a 100Watt linear power supply. Additionally there are some headpohne specific features in the HA200 like switchable cross-feed, tone control, selectable output impedance etc.

     

    So, if the main use case is with headphone, the HA200 will be the right choice, if the device shall be used with a power amp or any balanced audio sink, the DAC200 is the way to go.

     

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    I'm sorry for my delayed reply regarding the questions above, but I was travelling last weekend and had no internet access...

     

    Regarding the questions about the NOS mode, Miska has already given some perfect answers. In NOS mode the DSP with the selectable T+A upsampling algorithms (2x FIR, 2x Bezier) as well as the internal upsampling inside the D/A converter chips is bypassed. So the incoming PCM data is directly sent without any internal processing to the SDM section of the converters.

     

    The only filter in the complete signal path is the analog reconstruction filter. For this analog filter the user can select a cut-off frequency of 60 or 120 kHz.

     

    Regarding the SDV3100HV: The selectable NOS mode was a new feature for T+A introduced with the HA200 & DAC200 models.

    But as stated above, if the SDV3100HV is fed with PCM signals of 705.6 or 768 kSps, all internal upsampling is completely bypassed. So for such signals the SDV3100HV operates in NOS mode. Only signals with lower sample rate will be upsampled internally.

    I think the NOS feature for lower sample rates could be included in the the next firmware update for the SDV3100HV. Just let me know if there is a demand for this...

     

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    I would like to know  if and where and what kind of differencies in sound, image, dynamic etc. between the 2 dacs Merging Hapi ll and the TA dac 200?

     

     

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    I use the Merging HAPI Mk2 for my 7.1.4 12 channel Atmos music system. It's a different animal. I would never compare the T+A DAC 200 to the Merging HAPI. They are just too different. For example, the HAPI doesn't have a remote control and the lowest analog channel count possible is 8. 

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    On 9/2/2022 at 1:19 PM, bbosler said:

    I'll take a stab at that... diminishing returns kick in very early with today's DACs. Having tried a variety of high end DACs over the past few years I am convinced that spending huge amounts gets you very little.. and most of what you get is small differences, not better, just different. I've had all of the below for extended periods. Maybe I have a tin ear, but IMHO anything above the $2000 Schiit gets you nothing but bragging rights about how much you spent.

     

    I have no reason to question your opinion based on your experience. However, my own experience has been somewhat different. While I don't disagree that the differences in SQ are not huge, I found a noticeable improvement when I replaced my Luxman DA-06 with my current T+A DAC 8 DSD, with HQPlayer upsampling to DSD512. And there are credible reports suggesting that the sound of the DAC 200 is noticeably better than the DAC 8 DSD.

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    Great review! This review made in interested in T+A. A quick question to anyone who heard this DAC. How good is it compared to more everyday offering such as Yggdrasil LiM when not using HQPlayer? I have Ygg and wondering how much upgrade I can expect when I connect to a source directly. So, if anyone has heard both, I would truly appreciate it.

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    On 9/3/2022 at 7:17 PM, ted_b said:

    Do you think it might be worth the extra $$ over the Holo May KTE?  Or are we too incremental here? 

     

    Ted,

    I wonder if the price difference you refer to exists in the real world. As the Holo May KTE is only available directly from the distributor, I would not expect any discounts to be available. Whereas T+A has an extensive dealer network, there may be dealers who are prepared to sell the DAC 200 at a discount which significantly reduces or, perhaps, even eliminates the difference between T+A's M.S.R.P. and the price of the Holo May KTE.

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    44 minutes ago, Allan F said:

     

    Ted,

    I wonder if the price difference you refer to exists in the real world. As the Holo May KTE is only available directly from the distributor, I would not expect any discounts to be available. Whereas T+A has an extensive dealer network, there may be dealers who are prepared to sell the DAC 200 at a discount which significantly reduces or, perhaps, even eliminates the difference between T+A's M.S.R.P. and the price of the Holo May KTE.

    Allan,

    Good point, so, to make my own point more specific, is it a lateral move from the May KTE to the Dac 200?  There clearly are differences when going up price-wise to the Mola Mola, so I know it's not as much a "knuckle" as bbosler believes...but of course YMMV.  :)

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    16 minutes ago, ted_b said:

    Good point, so, to make my own point more specific, is it a lateral move from the May KTE to the Dac 200? 

    Ted,

    An equally good point. My reply was intended for those who might be considering the purchase of either the T+A DAC 200 or the Holo Audio May KTE, and for whom the apparent price difference might be a factor.

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    On 9/3/2022 at 10:31 PM, One and a half said:

    What a narrow viewpoint, I would consider a DAC that excludes DSD not worthy of an audition.

    FWIW, the $25,000 Berkeley Alpha Reference DAC doesn't do DSD, but has attracted some excellent reviews. 🙂 OTOH, Lampizator offers DSD only versions of some its DACs.

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