The Computer Audiophile Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 View full article Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
DuckToller Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Hi, Chris , this Focus 10 sound like wireless well engineered. Definitely Danish ;-) The WISA solution is so much better engineered than i.e. Kleernet or such ... I think @bobfa came across WISA when reviewing the Buchardt A400 ... Small note to the connoisseurs: Avantgarde Acoustic has used Pascal Class D Amplification for their bass module for years. and iirc Dutch&Dutch are Pascal customers as well. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
bbosler Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 the forthcoming JPLAY iOS control point app for UPnP I know not the focus of this article, but heard anything about this release? The thread on their site starts here Posted 15 April 2021 - 07:35 AM We've been developing a dedicated JPLAY iOS app since October 2019. The app is close to official release. then a year later Posted 04 May 2022 - 08:31 AM It is a matter of days and then it looks like he got tired of being asked locked it down in June Posted 03 June 2022 - 03:30 PM I am closing the topic now until the app is released and some sensible discussion can occur. see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
Kelly Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I have always admired Dynaudio looks design, manufacturing, engineering… I’ve just never had a chance to hear them. If I were buying passive speakers I would definitely seek them out for a listen (Confidence or Evidence range.) It’s seems like they exist on an island. I just very rarely see reviews of them or see them compared to headline brands like Magico etc. Roon ->UltraRendu + CI Audio 7v LPS-> Kii Control -> Kii Three Roon->BMC UltraDAC->Mr Speakers Aeon Flow Open Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted November 12, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Kelly said: I have always admired Dynaudio looks design, manufacturing, engineering… I’ve just never had a chance to hear them. If I were buying passive speakers I would definitely seek them out for a listen (Confidence or Evidence range.) It’s seems like they exist on an island. I just very rarely see reviews of them or see them compared to headline brands like Magico etc. I joke about Dynaudio being the biggest unknown speaker brand. The team at Dynaudio North America brought John Quick, formerly of dCS, onboard recently. I expect he will help them immensely, get more eyes and ears on the terrific products. They are deserved of many more accolades than they’ve received over the years. MarkoL and Nikhil 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 hours ago, bbosler said: the forthcoming JPLAY iOS control point app for UPnP I know not the focus of this article, but heard anything about this release? The thread on their site starts here Posted 15 April 2021 - 07:35 AM We've been developing a dedicated JPLAY iOS app since October 2019. The app is close to official release. then a year later Posted 04 May 2022 - 08:31 AM It is a matter of days and then it looks like he got tired of being asked locked it down in June Posted 03 June 2022 - 03:30 PM I am closing the topic now until the app is released and some sensible discussion can occur. Last I heard, it was submitted to the App Store, after working through a major change for Qobuz. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
MarkS Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Great and informative review, as always. I owned a paid of Dynaudio speakers many years ago and enjoyed them. I am wondering how this system compares to those from Dutch & Dutch, Kii and some others. Ultimately, I will be going in this direction (I.e., fully active with everything built in). A zillion boxes in a condo/apartment simply isn’t workable anymore. - Mark Synology DS916+ > SoTM dCBL-CAT7 > Netgear switch > SoTM dCBL-CAT7 > dCS Vivaldi Upsampler (Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 Dual 110 Ohm AES/EBU > dCS Vivaldi DAC (David Elrod Statement Gold power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 xlr > Absolare Passion preamp (Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 xlr > VTL MB-450 III (Shunyata King Cobra CX power cords) > Nordost Valhalla 2 speaker > Kaiser Kaewero Classic /JL Audio F110 (Wireworld Platinum power cord). Power Conditioning: Entreq Olympus Tellus grounding (AC, preamp and dac) / Shunyata Hydra Triton + Typhoon (Shunyata Anaconda ZiTron umbilical/Shunyata King Cobra CX power cord) > Furutec GTX D-Rhodium AC outlet. Link to comment
Mike Rubin Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 This is a bit off topic but this review reminded me of something that I posted elsewhere: I have been trying to go in an active speaker direction that is very different than that of the reviewed speaker. I want to keep the signal from my DAC in the analog domain for playback. In reviewing current active desktop speakers for my computer desktop setup, I am finding that nearly all modern powered monitors have internal DSP or DAC circuitry that converts all analog inputs to whatever bit depth and sample rate the speaker has programmed. I spent more than I could afford for DSD media, server, renderer, DAC, and HQPlayer software to be content to play back dsf files at 24/96 or 24/192. I am not certain that I even would hear the difference with nearfield speakers, but I don't see a need to add additional digital processing to this signal chain. I understand that the Genelec G Three has an analog amp and no DSP device, but, beyond that, I am finding almost nothing for less than $1500 a pair that both was introduced in the last five years and is analog-only, at least through its RCA or XLR inputs. If you follow the powered speaker niche and have thoughts, would you please add them in the thread linked above? Living room: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7 > HQP Embedded > xfinity Xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch > Sonore Optical Module Deluxe > Sonore Signature Rendu SE Optical Tier 2 > Okto DAC 8 Stereo > Topping Pre90 Preamp > Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini > Revel F32 Concertas Computer Desk System: Synology DS-218+ NAS > Dell XPS 8930/NUC 10 i7 > HQP Desktop > xfinity Xfi Router > EtherRegen > ultraRendu > Topping D90 DAC > Audioengine A5+'s Link to comment
feelingears Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 It would be interesting to read an active speaker comparison, such as KEF vs Elac vs Dynaudio, etc. R1200CL 1 Sum>Frankenstein: JPlay/Audirvana/iTunes, Uptone EtherRegen+LPS-1.2, Rivo Streamer+Uptone JS-2, Schiit Yggdrasil LiM+Shunyata Delta XC, Linn LP12/Hercules II/Ittok/Denon DL-103R, ModWright LS 100, Pass XA25, Tellurium Black II, Monitor Audio Silver 500 on IsoAcoustics Gaias, Shunyata Delta XC, Transparent Audio, P12 power regenerator, and positive room attributes. Link to comment
bobfa Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 4:15 PM, DuckToller said: Hi, Chris , this Focus 10 sound like wireless well engineered. Definitely Danish ;-) The WISA solution is so much better engineered than i.e. Kleernet or such ... I think @bobfa came across WISA when reviewing the Buchardt A400 ... Small note to the connoisseurs: Avantgarde Acoustic has used Pascal Class D Amplification for their bass module for years. and iirc Dutch&Dutch are Pascal customers as well. I did have some experience with WISA and the generic hub that was shipped with the A500 speakers. The hub software was totally unstable and I never really got the audio quality I expected from it. The A500 is very good speaker. The Hub let them down. In addition I found later on that the XLR cables I was using did not do justice to the speakers. DuckToller 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
DuckToller Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 8:46 PM, Mike Rubin said: This is a bit off topic but this review reminded me of something that I posted elsewhere: I have been trying to go in an active speaker direction that is very different than that of the reviewed speaker. I want to keep the signal from my DAC in the analog domain for playback. In reviewing current active desktop speakers for my computer desktop setup, I am finding that nearly all modern powered monitors have internal DSP or DAC circuitry that converts all analog inputs to whatever bit depth and sample rate the speaker has programmed. I spent more than I could afford for DSD media, server, renderer, DAC, and HQPlayer software to be content to play back dsf files at 24/96 or 24/192. I am not certain that I even would hear the difference with nearfield speakers, but I don't see a need to add additional digital processing to this signal chain. I understand that the Genelec G Three has an analog amp and no DSP device, but, beyond that, I am finding almost nothing for less than $1500 a pair that both was introduced in the last five years and is analog-only, at least through its RCA or XLR inputs. If you follow the powered speaker niche and have thoughts, would you please add them in the thread linked above? Phil Jones' designed Acoustic Energy AE1 are another actives with analog circuitry. Mike Rubin 1 Link to comment
Kelly Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 2:46 PM, Mike Rubin said: This is a bit off topic but this review reminded me of something that I posted elsewhere: I have been trying to go in an active speaker direction that is very different than that of the reviewed speaker. I want to keep the signal from my DAC in the analog domain for playback. In reviewing current active desktop speakers for my computer desktop setup, I am finding that nearly all modern powered monitors have internal DSP or DAC circuitry that converts all analog inputs to whatever bit depth and sample rate the speaker has programmed. I spent more than I could afford for DSD media, server, renderer, DAC, and HQPlayer software to be content to play back dsf files at 24/96 or 24/192. I am not certain that I even would hear the difference with nearfield speakers, but I don't see a need to add additional digital processing to this signal chain. I understand that the Genelec G Three has an analog amp and no DSP device, but, beyond that, I am finding almost nothing for less than $1500 a pair that both was introduced in the last five years and is analog-only, at least through its RCA or XLR inputs. If you follow the powered speaker niche and have thoughts, would you please add them in the thread linked above? At $1500 it probably will get gradually harder to find analog only actives. It’s at a price point that’s not cheap so people expect good quality, but it doesn’t leave any room for customized components. At that price, I’d bet it’s easier to build a great sounding digital speaker that can use DSP driver correction and crossover than it would be to build a similarly good sounding analog active. Mike Rubin 1 Roon ->UltraRendu + CI Audio 7v LPS-> Kii Control -> Kii Three Roon->BMC UltraDAC->Mr Speakers Aeon Flow Open Link to comment
Nikhil Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I've always been a little partial towards Dynaudio drivers. Something about their sound appeals to me. A few years ago, I looked long and hard at the Confidence C1 very closely for my speaker search. While I didn't go with them eventually I came away with a deep appreciation of their design and engineering. For the most part Dynaudio gets most things right. I see myself going the Active route someday. The sheer simplicity of the approach with minimal boxes etc will appeal to those who just don't want the hassle of fiddling with gear. I'm still not on board with using DSP but it's interesting to see your strong endorsement. Will have to explore that rabbit hole someday. p.s. Just found out about the "Audiophile Style 50" playlist ... Nice! . The Computer Audiophile 1 Custom Win10 Server | Mutec MC-3+ USB | Lampizator Amber | Job INT | ATC SCM20PSL + JL Audio E-Sub e110 Link to comment
Popular Post MarkoL Posted December 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2022 Great article, Chris, as usual. My first contact with Dyns was in mid '90s with Dynaudio 500 (fully modded). From that moment I became a fan of Dynaudio. Not many audiophiles would consider Dynaudio active speakers for every day serious listening. I hope that in the future, and with changes in Dynaudio N.A., brand will gain more presence. In my humble opinion, there is no better all-rounder... if such thing exists in HI-FI. The Computer Audiophile and bobfa 2 Marko's Audio System Link to comment
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