sdolezalek Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 The sound quality difference between listening to Qobuz directly through HQPlayer and listening to it through the HQPlayer plus Roon implementation is pretty dramatic in favor of direct. I wonder how much of that is due to additional processing load put on the system by the HQP plus Roon combination and how much is just added (noise?) resulting from running the stream through both applications? Have those of you running Roon on a NAS or a separate computer from the one running HQP noticed a similar improvement in sound quality? Synology NAS>i7-6700/32GB/NVIDIA QUADRO P4000 Win10>Qobuz+Tidal>Roon>HQPlayer>DSD512> Fiber Switch>Ultrarendu (NAA)>Holo Audio May KTE DAC> Bryston SP3 pre>Levinson No. 432 amps>Magnepan (MG20.1x2, CCR and MMC2x6) Link to comment
Pashmeister Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Is it possible to control Qobuz music through the HQPDControl app? I can only play/pause/skip but not search for albums/artists. It would be awesome if this is possible. I could unsubscribe from Roon. Link to comment
firedog Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 14 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Absolutely. Okay, but what's needed to run the Client on, say, a laptop, that doesn't have the Desktop version installed? Is there a standalone version of the client? I'm asking b/c I tried running it on a laptop, and I'm getting error messages that I need all sorts of .dll files from the desktop installation for it to run. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
R1200CL Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I can’t get this working, and I have the correct version og HQplayer. Can someone explain how to do ? Link to comment
R1200CL Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 12 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: However, if you have both the Desktop and Client running on the same PC, and you select Localhost, and then go to album view and try to select Qobuz it should appear. So in order to have the embedded which is Linux to work, you must in addition have the windows version installed on another computer? Please explain how to properly make the embedded work. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, R1200CL said: So in order to have the embedded which is Linux to work, you must in addition have the windows version installed on another computer? Please explain how to properly make the embedded work. No. My version of embedded works without any issues. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, firedog said: Okay, but what's needed to run the Client on, say, a laptop, that doesn't have the Desktop version installed? Is there a standalone version of the client? I'm asking b/c I tried running it on a laptop, and I'm getting error messages that I need all sorts of .dll files from the desktop installation for it to run. I used the client on my Mac. I only installed the client, not full desktop. However, you can do a full install of desktop and client, but only use the client that doesn’t require a license. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Pashmeister said: Is it possible to control Qobuz music through the HQPDControl app? I can only play/pause/skip but not search for albums/artists. It would be awesome if this is possible. I could unsubscribe from Roon. I believe @Ales Prochazka is looking at this to see if it’s possible. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
bogi Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, firedog said: Okay, but what's needed to run the Client on, say, a laptop, that doesn't have the Desktop version installed? Is there a standalone version of the client? I'm asking b/c I tried running it on a laptop, and I'm getting error messages that I need all sorts of .dll files from the desktop installation for it to run. It's not intended in the way that you only copy HQPlayer Client executable to other computer. Run the ordinary HQPlayer setup executable and then you get 3 checkboxes for server, client and documentation. This way when you install Client without Server, no libraries will be missing. That's what I did on my Atom CPU mini PC only to show an example running Client on low power CPU. Client installation does not require HQPlayer license. firedog 1 i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Gavin1977 said: This is great news for HQPlayer - when will other streaming services be included, e.g Tidal? Don’t hold your breath for Tidal. Jussi tried. Gavin1977 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
R1200CL Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I only installed the client, not full desktop. So one has to use the client to control HQPlayer and then Qobuz via the embedded SW ? So you will need an extra PC, or does there exist an IOS client ? Edit Just read the article one more time. Will test with the client on my PC. I see this is a requirement. Would be nice if could be possible by the IOS app. I assume it’s technically possible. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, R1200CL said: So one has to use the client to control HQPlayer and then Qobuz via the embedded SW ? So you will need an extra PC, or does there exist an IOS client ? Edit Just read the article one more time. Will test with the client on my PC. I see this is a requirement. Would be nice if could be possible by the IOS app. I assume it’s technically possible. Yes, this would be even better if / there's an iOS way to control it. I hope HDPDcontrol can do it eventually. ericuco 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
skipspence Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 22 hours ago, bogi said: It will run on anything capable of running Windows or supported Linux versions. Win10 tablets usually run on Intel Atom or Intel Celeron low power consumption processors. As an example here is HQPlayer Client running on Atom Z8350 mini PC (there are tablets running on the same processor): Unfortunately not on x32 Windows OS...which I have on my tablet Audio System Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 13 hours ago, shum3s said: D Everything is working and sounds fantastic, except when playing a album only one to three tracks will play then stop. I have to go back re- launch the client to play the next track, then start the whole process over again. Am I missing something here? I need the “Audio Doctor” to diagnose my problems! 😊 Thanks Sam Does that happen every single time? No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 6 hours ago, R1200CL said: So in order to have the embedded which is Linux to work, you must in addition have the windows version installed on another computer? Please explain how to properly make the embedded work. Much like Roon, there are two pieces to the puzzle to make it work, the client and the server. The Client is the control app that is bundled with the desktop version of HQP, which also includes the server app for desktop. There is also the Embedded version of the server. The third part is not essential but recommended and that is an NAA (network audio appliance) The desktop version can be ran together on the same computer, or two separate computers. Embedded requires the Client to be on a different computer. So, if you want to get it working take a screenshot of the complete embedded configuration page, and get the client up and running on a separate PC and i'll look at the embedded settings and see if anything is preventing it from working. No electron left behind. Link to comment
oilpaint Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Where/How do I download HQP Client? I currently use HQPe on a sonicTransporter that came with HQP installed. Thanks Link to comment
ericuco Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, oilpaint said: Where/How do I download HQP Client? I currently use HQPe on a sonicTransporter that came with HQP installed. Thanks Download the appropriate Desktop version from https://www.signalyst.com/consumer.html (see bottom of page). The Desktop download contains HQP Desktop executable, HQP Client and Manual. Eric Audio System Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, oilpaint said: Where/How do I download HQP Client? I currently use HQPe on a sonicTransporter that came with HQP installed. Thanks Just download the Desktop installer. The Client is included and doesn't require another license. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, oilpaint said: Where/How do I download HQP Client? I currently use HQPe on a sonicTransporter that came with HQP installed. Thanks Download the appropriate desktop version for the system you want to run the Client on, it comes bundled with that. No electron left behind. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: Does that happen every single time? And just like that, the Doctor will see you now. AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, The Computer Audiophile said: And just like that, the Doctor will see you now. I am currently in a clinic rotation. The Computer Audiophile 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
bogi Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, skipspence said: Unfortunately not on x32 Windows OS...which I have on my tablet That's true. I see the Qobuz option brought new demands for HQPlayer Client to run on IOS, Win x32 ... and nobody mentioned Android tablets. I like the solution type of HQPWV (HQPlayer Web Viewer). If the server part would be integrated with HQPlayer Desktop Server, client web interface could run practically on anything including mobile devices and tablets. i7 11850H + RTX A2000 Win11 HQPlayer ► Topping HS02 ► 2x iFi iSilencer ► SMSL D300 ► DIY headamp DHA1 ► HiFiMan HE-500 Link to comment
MrB71 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Will this work on the evaluation version? Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, MrB71 said: Will this work on the evaluation version? Yes, the evaluation version is fully functional for 30 minutes at a time No electron left behind. Link to comment
MrB71 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Thanks for the quick reply AD. Can't get it working. I have desktop version open on my Win10PC and client open on my MacBook Pro but I see no Qobuz or even connection to my WinPC. I have the allow network connection ticked on the Win 10 PC. Apologies but I am very new to HQP4 but would see this additional function as a definite reason to purchase. Link to comment
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