numlog Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 After bricking a MoBo im considering selling the remaining PC parts and getting a Pi 4 instead. Compared to previous Pi it seems to be a big step up in quality while still keeping the simplicity. Anyone have any feedback on it for audio, specifically for standalone use? Link to comment
R1200CL Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 ......why not a new MoBo ? Link to comment
numlog Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 A few different reasons. while I think a powerful PC has particular benefits for SQ it also clearly/inevitably has flaws. I don't like how wasteful is to have all that computing power and only use a fraction of it 90% of the time (I dont use oversampling/conversion of any kind), PC components lose value so rapidly it's better to sell sooner rather than later. It will be interesting to try something different with the Pi... but that depends if people have anything positive to say about, Will probably just pick up another MoBo if not. One thing that spurred this on though was a recent discovery that basic SD card+USB adapter made an excellent sounding playback drive, even compared to an Optane SSD... After exploring the high power side of computer audio it's time to explore the low power side. bit01 1 Link to comment
Popular Post seeteeyou Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 It only costs $35 (plus the right chassis for fanless setup) to try it out, ain't that a no-brainer? FWIW there's an audiophile in Japan who used to have i9-9900T + Z390 motherboard + JCAT USB + JCAT LAN + Daphile, Pi 4 was able to beat that config with ease https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?5404-走向超值而極緻的-HI-FI電腦訊源(連載)&p=242352#post242352 The "secret sauce" turned out to be this fine-tuned version of piCorePlayer available for free here, I was given just a little bit of credit since I simply provided some hints for improving quality of the Linux kernel with Xenomai http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19160#p19160 And then part of the "magic" was contributed by this custom Squeezelite player, The Audio Streaming Series should be a great read for everyone IMHO https://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/the-engine.html Quote Done! Works! Great sound! Finally changing the kernel frequency to 44.1 KHz / 48 KHz also hit the home run https://reghenzani.faculty.polimi.it/teaching/download/linux-insides.pdf#page=441 https://github.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/blob/master/xenomai3/pcp-44100Hz_xe.patch https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30376-a-novel-way-to-massively-improve-the-sq-of-computer-audio-streaming/page/387/?tab=comments#comment-879051 We really don't need to go through everything listed above, just get these files linked below and then extract the piCorePlayer image file piCorePlayer6.1.0-44_48KHz-xeno.img with 7-Zip etc. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/pcp610-44_48KHz-xeno.z01 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/pcp610-44_48KHz-xeno.z02 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/pcp610-44_48KHz-xeno.z03 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/pcp610-44_48KHz-xeno.zip All tweaks mentioned above are included, and then here are the settings https://github.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/tree/master/setting Raspberry Pi audio streaming 101 https://darko.audio/2020/01/raspberry-pi-audio-streaming-101/ A short film about the Raspberry Pi as music streamer AND server https://darko.audio/2020/07/a-short-film-about-the-raspberry-pi-as-music-streamer-and-server/ 5 more thoughts on the Pi-Squeeze server/streamer https://darko.audio/2020/07/5-more-thoughts-on-the-squeeze-pi-server-streamer/ Quote The v4 isn’t troubled by this issue – its USB and Ethernet enjoy separate data buses Remote apps for iOS / Android https://darko.audio/2019/06/freshly-squeezed-streaming/ Roon Bridge on PiCorePlayer https://github.com/sam0402/picoreplayer-roonbridge Summerbreeze | How to establish a low cost, high quality system for your deck & desktop costing less than $350 piCorePlayer documentation https://docs.picoreplayer.org https://picoreplayer.gitlab.io/pCP-docs/ ANNOUNCE: piCorePlayer 6.0.0 https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111787-ANNOUNCE-piCorePlayer-6-0-0 https://www.head-fi.org/threads/yet-another-chord-thread-yact-wireless-streaming-alternative-to-2go-poly.905925/page-3 Personally I've been waiting for Compute Module 4 with PCIe support https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-nvme-support-coming https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/07/17/raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-coming-next-year-with-pcie-nvme-support/ kvik, bit01, Heckyman and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment
Popular Post DuckToller Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 Salut, right now I use the PI4/4GB as Gentoo-fied Roon or Audivana endpoint, fed by my old CAPS ZUMA 4790t powered server via Ethernet, which gives me the options to deliver up to DSD512 flawlessly under ROON via USB to the DAC's in use. With Audirvana it's only DSD256, though. If you use the RPI4 as server/streamer/endpoint you may want to find out about the limitations you can find with DSD Here is some further reading and some valuable information by @bluesman how to get most out of your little precious Good luck, Tom bluesman and numlog 2 Link to comment
Exocer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 hours ago, seeteeyou said: We really don't need to go through everything listed above, just get these files linked below and then extract the piCorePlayer image file piCorePlayer6.1.0-44_48KHz-xeno.img with 7-Zip etc. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/pcp610-44_48KHz-xeno.z01 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/pcp610-44_48KHz-xeno.z02 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/pcp610-44_48KHz-xeno.z03 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/pcp610-44_48KHz-xeno.zip @seeteeyou so you need all 4 of these files? Will try this today and report back. This is the HAT I used with the Pi4. It sounds very good 🙂 http://www.pi2design.com/store/p19/PI2AES_-_PRO_AUDIO_SHIELD.html Cheers Link to comment
Popular Post bluesman Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 17 hours ago, numlog said: Anyone have any feedback on it for audio, specifically for standalone use? A Pi 4 with 4 gigs of RAM is an excellent standalone music machine, except that you can’t keep much of a music library on an SD card. I run a full instance of JRiver Media Center on a 3B+ in my development system with my music library on a NAS, and it’s excellent for SQ. The GUI is a bit sluggish compared to a full PC, as are processing tasks like initial loading of the library data. I run a Pi 4 in my living room system (SMSL SU-8, Prima Luna power amp, Focal 726 towers). It sounds great and the functional weaknesses of the 3 are gone. The JRiver GUI is fine, and processing times (loading, retrieving cover art, etc) are at least as fast as a current entry level PC. SQ is excellent, although I’m sure this statement will draw some sharp disagreement as it always does. See the article linked by Duck Toller for my performance test measurements. I’ve moved my boot and file system from an SD card to an inexpensive USB SSD, which really speeds performance. The sole problem with a true standalone Pi for music is file storage, and you’re potentially compromising performance/ SQ if you use USB for both file storage and output to your DAC. The solutions (beyond network storage, which is the best way to go IMO)require using a separate bus for file access and include a DAC in a HAT, a WiFi DAC, a WiFi HD etc. The 4 has separate buses for network connections and USB, unlike the older Pis - so WiFi activity does not share a pipe with USB traffic. It goes without saying that the Pi 4 is an excellent renderer/player for networked software like Roon, for web streaming, and for a host of music players like VLC, Volumio, PiCorePlayer etc. It plays MC well (I even run a 7.1 system on a 3B+). It plays DSD fine, and it will do a fair amount of DSP. I haven’t tried room correction with it yet, but I’m all set up with my reference mic and will create a correction filter next week to see how well it does. You don’t need to work much to install PiCorePlayer - just download it from the website and follow the instructions. For my money, a Pi 4 is fantastic value in a very fine little music machine. jabbr, DuckToller, Exocer and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Exocer said: @seeteeyou so you need all 4 of these files? Yeah, everyone on GitHub must play by the rules by splitting that relatively large piCorePlayer image into 4 parts https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/managing-large-files/conditions-for-large-files Quote If you attempt to add or update a file that is larger than 50 MB, you will receive a warning from Git. It's such a nice HAT from Pi 2 Design with fantastic voltage regulators, many of their fans could be found here https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/raspberry-pi-i2s-to-spdif-hat.1990/ https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/dummies-guide-to-pi2aes-throw-away-your-pc-or-laptop.8878/ BTW, recently Ian Canada designed this StationPi and it should be coming in the (near?) future https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/192465-asynchronous-i2s-fifo-project-ultimate-weapon-fight-jitter-548.html#post6335309 Exocer 1 Link to comment
jabbr Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, bluesman said: I’ve moved my boot and file system from an SD card to an inexpensive USB SSD, which really speeds performance. The sole problem with a true standalone Pi for music is file storage, and you’re potentially compromising performance/ SQ if you use USB for both file storage and output to your DAC. The solutions (beyond network storage, which is the best way to go IMO)require using a separate bus for file access and include a DAC in a HAT, a WiFi DAC, a WiFi HD etc. The 4 has separate buses for network connections and USB, unlike the older Pis - so WiFi activity does not share a pipe with USB traffic. Linux typically loads the OS from SD into memory and then doesn't access the SD card much when its running perhaps except to write to log files. Best not to use the USB bus for double duty (file access and DAC output). bluesman 1 Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
numlog Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I didn't realise the 2GB version is so inexpensive, it was only priced more than the 4GB on amazon (probably have excess 4GBs to shift) . It is a no brainer for sure (ordered one on Ali Express) The dedicated USB3 chip is one of the big improvements on previous Pi s, very nice to see it has its own 25MHz crystal rather than being clocked by PLL from main clock in the SoC. Should be better for SQ by default but also opens up the possibility of feeding an external clock (can be hit or miss if this works well/at all since most chips arent designed to accept an external clock via the crystal input). I can not find the main crystal frequency... hopefully it is not some odd value that you wont find in an external clock The Wifi+BT chip is not really something you would want unless explicitly needed, though apparently the power to this chip can be disconnected by removing a single diode (I'm doubtful how effective disabling the chip in software alone is), if that's true it's a welcomed addition. Still needs to be confirmed if A. the diode actually feeds the chip and only it (for one, it also powers the power indicator LED) and B. the Pi still boots without power to this chip. The upgrade from DDR2 to DDR4 is pretty substantial also, RAM is definitely alongside USB for its influence on SQ and this brings it up to spec with current PCs (in fact at 3200Mhz its 50% faster than my desktop RAM!), I'm too young to have ever owned a PC that used DDR2 RAM... It was suggested before that more RAM in PCs benefits SQ, even if only a small amount of capacity is used, hopefully someone tests this theory at some point with 4GB vs 2GB Of course the Pis can be powered entirely by HQ power supplies, and could taken further by supplying some or all of the rails externally ( extreme but super low risk for something this inexpensive and simple, as computers go) but the switching DC/DC converters on board are not much of a concern to me (assuming the converters used are modern/good and well implemented), It's mostly they would not be as good at regulating/isolating the input as a linear regulator, so not so good when fed by another AC-DC switching supply. The practical benefits are massive (An external supply's performance will even benefit from these converters lightening the load compared to feeding more linear regs),. bluesman 1 Link to comment
al2813 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Hi just bumped into this one. As anyone tested this one with a USBridge Sig? I will test it tonight. I am already running PiCorePlayer stock 6.1.0 so this one should work as well I guess. In fact in my test I ended up liking the most the sound I was getting with the USBrudge Sig being a Roon endpoint but using the Squeezebox server feature in Roon and running the end point as a Suqeezelite renderer. Link to comment
Popular Post stefano_mbp Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 You could have a very interesting experience if you get a nas for you music archive install Minimserver and Bubbleupnpserver get a raspberry pi 4 (4gb) install GentooPlayer with MPD/upmpdcli enabled use Lumïn app as control point connect any dac you like to the rpi4 all connected on your lan (WiFi just for control point) not very expensive but really effective On my experience raspberry is a bit in trouble with large usb attached libraries and a nas with upnp server is the best solution. sonodynesrp205, franz159 and bluesman 2 1 Stefano My audio system Link to comment
bluesman Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, numlog said: I didn't realise the 2GB version is so inexpensive, it was only priced more than the 4GB on amazon (probably have excess 4GBs to shift) . It is a no brainer for sure (ordered one on Ali Express) And 2 gigs do the job well, especially if you run zram and use a good, fast 32+ card. If you run JRiver or other graphic-heavy programs on it, 4 gigs of RAM will speed up the GUI over a 1 gig Pi. I don’t own a 2 gig Pi 4, so I haven’t compared that variant to a 1GB or a 4GB. The 4 with the current Buster OS allocates GPU space dynamically, so setting it in the conf file is no longer necessary or possible, AFAIK. I think Stefano’s got it right - NAS is the way to go. But the OP does say “standalone”, which implies storage as well. I put Minimserver on my Asustor NAS when researching for my articles, and it works great (although I use Roon and JRiver for my own listening). Link to comment
numlog Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I will definitely try NAS, with both ethernet and Wifi, just never could see how it could be better than standalone. An active LAN /WiFi interface seems like it would be more or less as harmful as active storage device , and then you end up with more stuff to worry about on sending end of the network. It would be very foolish to dismiss without trying it though, especially when so many seem to like it. Link to comment
al2813 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, al2813 said: Hi just bumped into this one. As anyone tested this one with a USBridge Sig? I will test it tonight. I am already running PiCorePlayer stock 6.1.0 so this one should work as well I guess. In fact in my test I ended up liking the most the sound I was getting with the USBrudge Sig being a Roon endpoint but using the Squeezebox server feature in Roon and running the end point as a Suqeezelite renderer. Quickly tried and this is not working for the USBridge. I would guess missing drivers. Is the tweak done specifically for RPI4? Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, al2813 said: Quickly tried and this is not working for the USBridge. I would guess missing drivers. Is the tweak done specifically for RPI4? Correct, that's only meant for RPi4 and here's another alternative http://albumplayer.ru/readme_en.pdf http://albumplayer.ru/linux/english.html http://albumplayer.ru/linux/guide_en.txt Image of bootable SD card Yoctoap (Raspberry Pi CM3) http://albumplayer.ru/linux/yoctoap-cm3.zip Not sure if this Ethernet driver provided by Allo were working for that particular Linux distro, though https://github.com/MichaIng/DietPi/issues/3725#issuecomment-687798614 Link to comment
al2813 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, seeteeyou said: Correct, that's only meant for RPi4 and here's another alternative http://albumplayer.ru/readme_en.pdf http://albumplayer.ru/linux/english.html http://albumplayer.ru/linux/guide_en.txt Image of bootable SD card Yoctoap (Raspberry Pi CM3) http://albumplayer.ru/linux/yoctoap-cm3.zip Not sure if this Ethernet driver provided by Allo were working for that particular Linux distro, though https://github.com/MichaIng/DietPi/issues/3725#issuecomment-687798614 Not sure if this fits my goal as this is a packaged player. Reading your posts, this was a tweaked PiCorePlayer with a tweaked Squeezelite. I use exactly this today as my Roon endpoint (paradoxically as this is a functionality delivered by Roon as a side - for me it sounds better than using Roon Bridge and I tried several distributions). Always look for ways to improve SQ.... I do have an extra RPI4 so will try your version with that and see how it plays against my USBridge sig using "stock" PiCorePlayer Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 NAS could be an interesting topic to talk about, recently a fellow audiophile here in Hong Kong replaced his Synology with another fanless mini PC that's running an audiophile OS called Snakeoil OS https://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=136704 Basically his Synology couldn't even hold a candle when compared to that affordable mini PC with i5-8250U, he switched back to Synology just for fun and then even his spouse could notice the staggering differences. BTW, this audiophile in Japan purchased two additional units of Pi 4 after he fell in love with the first one https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?5404-走向超值而極緻的-HI-FI電腦訊源(連載)&p=242530#post242530 1st one for his file server, 2nd one for running LMS, and then 3rd one for Squeezelite since that's the optimal setup for audiophiles. FYI - someone else created this guide (in Chinese) for running LMS and Squeezelite separately on two units of Pi 4 https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?13157-piCorePlayer6-1-0-Xenomai-44-1-48KHz雙機入門簡易安裝教學 Images wouldn't be displayed without an account over there, simply use Google Translate for the following pages instead https://output.jsbin.com/xacixuquga https://output.jsbin.com/ruvixipeko https://output.jsbin.com/renixufoga Many thanks for the contributions by sam0402 and tetsuka who spent so much time on fine-tuning piCorePlayer. numlog 1 Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 FYI - other distros for Pi 4 seemed to be quite interesting, first one is called Kona Linux Pi from Japan and the language could be changed to English etc. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1j9c6utgwrStLYD6xy5Yati63RcMlMp8S https://lovely910.com/2020/08/28/2020-08-高音質ラズパイのkona-linux-pi-64bit-mate-1-0を、raspberry-pi-4で日本語起動/ https://lovely910.com/2020/08/30/2020-08-日本製高音質ラズパイのkona-linux-pi-64bit-xfce-1-0を、raspberry-pi-4で起動/ http://kanzou5.seesaa.net/article/477264973.html Album Player http://albumplayer.ru/linux/english.html Quote Image of bootable SD card piCoreAP 6.1 (Raspberry Pi ZeroW/2/3/3b+/4) Image of bootable SD card Yoctoap (Raspberry Pi 4) Snakeoil OS as mentioned in my previous reply https://www.patreon.com/posts/snakeoil-os-33602597 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r-wCQ4wHzO6wT7To4SmaAzdVy8eg3z4L/view Another one from Japan called lightMPD https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lightmpd/JsN0Tw-p2v0 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v0pM5Q7ieP57tvmvaxoFQJM7c53SXiAT/view Finally symphonic mpd is optimized for I2S HATs and only wired network connections are supported, no USB audio and no Wi-Fi at all https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/317583-journeys-with-a-pi-from-a-standing-start-to-symphonic-mpd/?tab=comments#comment-4581125 https://www.facebook.com/565378050602738/posts/965376323936240 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEkcPvplElY Quote I also compared the sound quality and Symphonic-Mpd sounds more darker background and huge soundstage. Comparison between Album Player and symphonic mpd http://mimizukobo.sakura.ne.jp/cgi-bin/read.cgi?mode=all&list=topic&no=7648#7673 Quote Yoctoap ap > smpd >> piCore ap Some of us might wanna get the best of both worlds, here's Rock Pi X that could run Windows 10 as well as x86 / x64 versions of Linux https://wiki.radxa.com/RockpiX https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=629267338959 https://www.seeedstudio.com/Rock-Pi-X-c-1585.html https://shop.allnetchina.cn/collections/frontpage/products/rock-pi-x https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/10/02/buy-rock-pi-x-windows-10-sbc/ MinorityClean from Japan http://jplay.eu/forum/index.php?/topic/3611-server-core-2019-hugo-tt-drivers/#entry52738 Quote Tested with minorityclean v57 on both pcs, simply stunning. http://jplay.eu/forum/index.php?/topic/3063-pink-hq-minorityclean/page-34#entry52770 Quote With MC62, my dream of MinorityClean with clarity, purity, extended-ness of 60, and excitement of 57 kind-of come true. Hell, MC62 is even more clear, pure and extended than MC60, yet it is more exciting than 57. This is just unbelievable. I have never heard signal so pure coming out of digital transport. I can't stop listening. I'm mind-blown! Link to comment
jcn3 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 i'm digging using my rpi4 running ropieee as a roon endpoint. just usb out into some kef ls50w and works like a dream. (1) holo audio red (hqp naa) > chord dave > luxman cl-38uc/mq-88uc > kef reference 1 (2) simaudio moon mind 2 > chord qutest > luxman sq-n150 > monitor audio gold gx100 Link to comment
bluesman Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 11:29 AM, numlog said: I will definitely try NAS, with both ethernet and Wifi, just never could see how it could be better than standalone. An active LAN /WiFi interface seems like it would be more or less as harmful as active storage device , and then you end up with more stuff to worry about on sending end of the network. It would be very foolish to dismiss without trying it though, especially when so many seem to like it. One of the biggest improvements in the Pi 4 over all prior versions is separation of the networking bus from USB. Even the 3B+ shared one among WiFi, Ethernet, and USB. And at last, the 4 has gigabit Ethernet and USB 3. WiFi is no longer as big a limiter as it was on prior Pis because it’s not sharing bandwidth with USB. USB for simultaneous file access and output to a DAC still shares a bus, which potentially affects SQ when sourcing, processing, and playing large files with some system configurations. And USB can’t adequately power both a DAC and a drive for file storage - at least one has to be externally powered, in most cases. An I2S DAC in a HAT solves this problem and (if the DAC is a good one) can result in better SQ. This also leaves USB free for file storage on an external drive. I use 5 GHz WiFi for network access on my Pi 4s and hear no SQ difference against Ethernet. Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (Make sure that we're connecting Pi 4 to a reliable power source before the update is applied, and then it must be done with the official Raspberry Pi OS available @ https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspios_lite_armhf/images/raspios_lite_armhf-2020-08-24/2020-08-20-raspios-buster-armhf-lite.zip . There's no need to keep that micro SD card afterwards.) How to Boot Raspberry Pi 4 From a USB SSD or Flash Drive https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/boot-raspberry-pi-4-usb https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/hwzzs7/question_regarding_disabling_power_for_the_rpi4bs/ Quote uhubctl does work to completely disable USB power on RPi4B. Make sure you update VL805 firmware to latest version (00137ad), and use latest uhubctl (version 2.2.0). FYI - piCorePlayer mentioned above already included uhubctl version 2.2.0 https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?13157-piCorePlayer6-1-0-Xenomai-44-1-48KHz雙機入門簡易安裝教學 https://archive.is/dQAY2 https://archive.is/eYcRa https://archive.is/7B2P7 Let's say USB drive is plugged into P1 and USB DAC / DDC is connected to P4 respectively, therefore P2 could be powered off right away sudo /home/tc/uhubctl -l2 -p2 -a0 Same deal with P3 sudo /home/tc/uhubctl -l2 -p3 -a0 Finally we'll wait for a few minutes before powering off P1 while leaving P4 alone sleep 300;sudo /home/tc/uhubctl -l2 -p1 -a0 Everything could be combined together as shown below sudo /home/tc/uhubctl -l2 -p2 -a0;sudo /home/tc/uhubctl -l2 -p3 -a0;sleep 300;sudo /home/tc/uhubctl -l2 -p1 -a0 Squeezelite itself doesn't need to write anything back to the USB drive, therefore nothing will share the same bus with the USB DAC when 3 outta 4 USB ports are powered off. LMS itself doesn't run completely off RAM since the database is located at the USB drive, that's why I linked to a guide for running two units of Pi 4 separately with two different piCorePlayer images. (Support for TIDAL was removed from that specific image for LMS.) BTW, here's the link to get uhubctl for other distros https://github.com/mvp/uhubctl Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Now we could add JCAT USB Card XE thanks to the PCIe 2.0 x1 slot on the I/O board https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/10/19/raspberry-pi-cm4-cm4lite-modules/ Link to comment
numlog Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Immediate impression of Pi 4, as expected, was the softness to the sound, similar to an underclocked desktop (or the same since the pi 4 has fairly low CPU speed). Like underclocking It's not really good or bad in terms of quality, just a sound character. After sometime to pick on the deeper nuances of the sound what became apparent were the flaws of the desktop SQ rather than the Pi strengths, Pi just sounds so much more transparent and cleaner. Maybe there is slight extra detail from the desktop in some ways but it's swamped but how less enjoyable it is to listen to, and Im fairly sure this is down to the upgraded clocking in the desktop and would be surprised if the Pi doesnt completely surpass it when it get's the same treatment. Pi is powered by 5V linear supply (through onboard DC converters). Desktop had CPU, SSD and USB card with direct linear supplies, everything else powered with a good standard ATX supply. Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 9:08 PM, seeteeyou said: The "secret sauce" turned out to be this fine-tuned version of piCorePlayer available for free here, I was given just a little bit of credit since I simply provided some hints for improving quality of the Linux kernel with Xenomai http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19160#p19160 Thanksgiving Edition with further SQ improvements http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19288#p19288 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.zip https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z01 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z02 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z03 Exocer 1 Link to comment
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