UpTone Audio EtherREGEN (Objective Discussion Only)

[The Computer Audiophile]

I'm going to go through this thread and get rid of the off topic and subjective comments. @jabbr is correct, this is an objective sub-forum fo such discussions. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

39 minutes ago, RussL said:

 

Good one.  😄 Just trying to inject a little humor.

 

Russ

Ah, the ole injectivist 😂

[The Computer Audiophile]

28 minutes ago, plissken said:

Sandy.... I wasn't speaking to you. I was speaking to Alex about the White paper and what UpTone is really suggesting people do.

 

You disagreed with it. I pointed out two sections of their 'paper' that said:

 

Optical breaks leakage currents, data transfers generate 'phase noise'.

 

So go optical and go for as a high speed interface as you can until something else in the setup becomes the bottle neck.

 

In my setup it's a $69 Celeron 3150 based mainboard. But at 332MB/s I don't think it's detrimental. Would a J5005 based system get me closer? I don't know because my SSD may start being the limiting factor. Then I have to start chasing NVMe... And the cycle of insanity over processing a measly 706Kbps continues.

$69! Preposterous! You could’ve spent half that and done better. Someone call the snake oil police!

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 minute ago, plissken said:

 

Don't know: $640 for a 100Mbit switch which does nothing that a $40 switch can't do or $210 for 10GBe optical and $430 on a passively cooled, zero mechanical noise, computer system (J4105, 8GB RAM, 240GB SSD, JRiver, Monitor).

 

Implement some SoX, Room Correction, House Curve in JRiver...

 

I'll take my chances on what constitutes preposterous in most peoples mind.

 

 

I guess my joke didn’t go over well. 
 

I was joking that anytime you guys bring up how much money people could spend to get the same performance (and give a self satisfied sniff because it’s seemingly cheap), there is always another product cheaper than the one you mentioned. I’m not a fan of racing to the bottom though. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

2 minutes ago, Seraph said:

Why on earth would I pay for something that was no proven affect on sound quality whatsoever?

And that, is the whole point of my argument.

Is that expectation bias? Only kidding. I wish everyone would lighten up a bit. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

9 minutes ago, Seraph said:

Are the people over at ASR aware of this? 

You ask that question as if it has meaning. Like the people over there are the arbiters of truth and science. I highly recommend you look at that site a little closer for conflicts of interest, disingenuous “reviews,” and measurements corrected much after the fact / damage has been done. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

9 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

 

So much for an objective forum. You gents don't understand the meaning of the word. Opinions, unsubstantiated claims and conspiracy theories are not it, sorry.

My comments were based on facts. 

 

Conflict of interest - Amir's business selling products that compete with those he writes about

disingenuous “reviews,” - Read the original microRendu review and take in all that is subjective word salad describing how much he doesn't like it. Zero to do with objective data and everything to do with not liking the company and what it sells. 

measurements corrected much after the fact / damage has been done - Again, look at the microRendu review. Guy didn't know how to use the analyzer and berated the product even though it was his error causing the issues. The corrections came much later and in an addendum. The damage was done. 

 

When you have real facts, you can post in the objective forum. When you have an agenda and use "science" as a weapon you'll get called out. 

 

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

4 minutes ago, Seraph said:

As far as I have seen if there has been a conflict of interest in a review on the site in question, it has been clearly stated in the beginning of the review with a notion that the reader should take this in to consideration.

With all due respect, I'd think an objective leaning person such as yourself would do a bit more homework on his sources of information. Check if any of the products Amir sells are "reviewed" on his site? It wouldn't do well for his pocket book if he had to tell his customers that the stuff they are buying from him doesn't measure as well as the cheap stuff. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

3 minutes ago, Seraph said:

So you have an issue with products Amir does not review? Not with his equipment or methodology?

Incorrect. See my response above to pkane.

[The Computer Audiophile]

I must say, the amount of posts being reported as being against the objective-fi rules is astounding. However, the objectivists aren't reporting their own fellow objectivists. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

4 hours ago, Seraph said:

Your posts are cancerous. Link it or forget about it.

This is your one warning. Audiophile Style isn't your playground to insult people. Your "science" site may tolerate your behavior, but we don't around here. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

2 minutes ago, Seraph said:

As I said earlier, I'm done with this topic. 

Please be done with the insults and abrasive behavior as well. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Just now, Seraph said:

I will do my best sir.

Thank you very much.