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7 hours ago, MarcelNL said:

be minimized by switching off completely

Take it out and listen if you can hear a difference. if not, dont bother, if yes, only then this discussion becomes relevant...

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36 minutes ago, Mops911 said:

Take it out and listen if you can hear a difference. if not, dont bother, if yes, only then this discussion becomes relevant...

Booting without it does not work on this mobo, I'm not so sure it's a good idea to take it out of a running system? 

 

Power draw is not my main concern, noise is.

 

 

ISP, cat8.1, Zylix switch, Finisar <1321>Solarflare 8522, AMD 7, Aorus X570 Elite, Corsair AX1200i, 8Gb Apacer Ram, Pink Faun I2S OCXO on LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Amethyst (modded to accept I2S), Klangfilm 204a, Klangfilm Trionor (3Tesla 835, JBL2402)

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22 hours ago, Nenon said:

Emile has been "extreme"-ly busy with some new developments at Taiko. I will try to get an update from him next week and post where we are. I am curious myself as well. 

 

Hi @Nenon what about the unregulated power  supply. Any news about that. I wonder specifically about the parts list.

 

Thanks

T

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23 hours ago, Exocer said:

Dude you just gave me a good idea 🤣.

 

All jokes aside, interested in how this turns out. My desktop is still running an i7 2600k happily and this i9 will become my daily driver when I upgrade... Long overdue for a more powerful desktop CPU/Mobo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The plot thickens! I ordered the Asus Rog XII Extreme. I stupidly presumed because the i9 10090k has built in graphics then clearly compatible MB would have HDMI out! Answer No, has no video out whatsoever! mmmmm! Does anyone here know of any really really low power gpu cards that I could use to configure the Bios then remove? I have no idea if my SJ DC3 rail will even power a really low GPU? Arrrrrrrr! 
 

@Nenon maybe you know since you building SJ PSU’s? Or any other solution? 

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many (most?) mobo's will not boot without GPU, the MSI card referred a couple of posts higher is probably the lowest spec/TDP card around. You can always stick the GPU card on a PCIe 1x riser and power that via a regular switching PSU using one of the PCIe cables.

(mine is connected that way)

ISP, cat8.1, Zylix switch, Finisar <1321>Solarflare 8522, AMD 7, Aorus X570 Elite, Corsair AX1200i, 8Gb Apacer Ram, Pink Faun I2S OCXO on LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Amethyst (modded to accept I2S), Klangfilm 204a, Klangfilm Trionor (3Tesla 835, JBL2402)

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25 minutes ago, MarcelNL said:

many (most?) mobo's will not boot without GPU, the MSI card referred a couple of posts higher is probably the lowest spec/TDP card around. You can always stick the GPU card on a PCIe 1x riser and power that via a regular switching PSU using one of the PCIe cables.

(mine is connected that way)

If only I had a PC PSU to power it!!! Maybe an old 512mb DDR2 card?

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borrow one for a couple of days? If you need a GPU to get past P.O.S.T on that mobo you can always invest in an additional PSU/rail to power the card separately using a riser.

ISP, cat8.1, Zylix switch, Finisar <1321>Solarflare 8522, AMD 7, Aorus X570 Elite, Corsair AX1200i, 8Gb Apacer Ram, Pink Faun I2S OCXO on LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Amethyst (modded to accept I2S), Klangfilm 204a, Klangfilm Trionor (3Tesla 835, JBL2402)

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35 minutes ago, Nenon said:

 

I've used an external video card with my AMD builds. Worked fine with the SJ LPS. It was just an old GPU, nothing special.

 

What about Thunderbolt out to display port? Would that not work with the on-CPU graphics card?

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Think he has to enable the on board GPU first.

ISP, cat8.1, Zylix switch, Finisar <1321>Solarflare 8522, AMD 7, Aorus X570 Elite, Corsair AX1200i, 8Gb Apacer Ram, Pink Faun I2S OCXO on LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Amethyst (modded to accept I2S), Klangfilm 204a, Klangfilm Trionor (3Tesla 835, JBL2402)

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Thanks for the tip, biggest challenge is finding a VGA cable as I likely threw all of that stuff out long ago 

ISP, cat8.1, Zylix switch, Finisar <1321>Solarflare 8522, AMD 7, Aorus X570 Elite, Corsair AX1200i, 8Gb Apacer Ram, Pink Faun I2S OCXO on LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Amethyst (modded to accept I2S), Klangfilm 204a, Klangfilm Trionor (3Tesla 835, JBL2402)

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19 hours ago, Exocer said:

 

What about Thunderbolt out to display port? Would that not work with the on-CPU graphics card?

I don’t see thunderbolt out. The thunderbolt card has an in. Any how ordered old DDR 2 card. Cheers all

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13 minutes ago, ASRMichael said:

I don’t see thunderbolt out. The thunderbolt card has an in. Any how ordered old DDR 2 card. Cheers all

I thought your USB-C ports would be sufficient as they appeared to be Thunderbolt compliant as well. I'm most likely incorrect on that assertion though 😁 (I thought there was an add-on card of sorts as well). 

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6 minutes ago, Exocer said:

I thought your USB-C ports would be sufficient as they appeared to be Thunderbolt compliant as well. I'm most likely incorrect on that assertion though 😁 (I thought there was an add-on card of sorts as well). 

Ok let me check! Loads of accessories so need to check. Cheers 

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1 hour ago, seeteeyou said:

Let's understand what it really is, DisplayPort Alt Mode should require hardware / BIOS support and therefore we don't wanna assume that all USB-C ports are created equal

 

True. The Asus ROG Maximus XIII Extreme lists the following specs so they do appear to be DisplayPort capable, hence my comment:

 

"2 x Intel® Thunderbolt™ 4 ports (USB Type-C®) support DisplayPort 1.2/1.4 and Thunderbolt™ video outputs *

* Graphics specifications may vary between CPU types."

 

Also,

Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme comes with this apparently : 

 

THUNDERBOLTEX 3-TR Card

"ASUS ThunderboltEX 3-TR expansion card, dual Thunderbolt™ 3 ports (USB Type-C®), DisplayPort 1.4, PCIe® 3.0 x4 interface"

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aren't those expansion ports on that MoBo ports for which you need a GPU or internal video processor in the CPU to work with?

My MoBo has HDMI out and some support chip for making that work but not without a CPU with internal GPU.

ISP, cat8.1, Zylix switch, Finisar <1321>Solarflare 8522, AMD 7, Aorus X570 Elite, Corsair AX1200i, 8Gb Apacer Ram, Pink Faun I2S OCXO on LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Amethyst (modded to accept I2S), Klangfilm 204a, Klangfilm Trionor (3Tesla 835, JBL2402)

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1 hour ago, MarcelNL said:

aren't those expansion ports on that MoBo ports for which you need a GPU or internal video processor in the CPU to work with?

CPU integrated graphics will work .

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If there were no power delivered to the integrated graphics in the first place, how do we expect DisplayPort Alt Mode to work?

 

Well, I guess that some of us (i.e. not everyone) could somehow figure out a way to "modify" the motherboard for that?

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9481/asus-maximus-xii-extreme-intel-z490-motherboard/index.html

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There is no iGPU power

 

Seems very solid & nice - for non-gamers as there is no way to utilize the CPU integrated graphics

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R13YYJEHV4U9J9

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I first ordered this king Asus Z490 motherboards but after delivery noticed that there was no ability to utilize on-board integrated graphics from the CPU (which I desire to use). So back it went.

 

Here's a different Z490 motherboard from MSI

 

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/z490-use-thunderbolt-as-display-out-with-igp.340937/

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Just watched a breakdown of the board on youtube and seems no power at all is delivered to the IGP

 

IMHO that didn't sound very feasible then.

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11 minutes ago, seeteeyou said:

I first ordered this king Asus Z490 motherboards but after delivery noticed that there was no ability to utilize on-board integrated graphics from the CPU (which I desire to use). So back it went.

They don't mention the add-on accessory it comes with 🙂. Perhaps this person would prefer not to go that route.

 

I'd say its worth trying as it is no additional cost to try. If it doesn't work then I will take it away as a teachable moment...TY

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