damien78 Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 What is the extension of the Pure Music bookmark files ? Are they reusing an existing audio file extension for them ? In this case, the easiest would be for you to move these PM files to another folder. Damien MBP 15"/Mac Mini, Audirvana Plus, Audioquest Diamond USB, AMR DP-777, exD DSD DAC (for DSD), Pioneer N-70AE, Audioquest Niagara balanced/Viard Audio Design Silver HD, Accuphase E-560, Cabasse Sumatra MT420 Link to comment
catastrofe Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 The file extension is .pmbmf. The files are embedded in the album folders, so moving them is not really an option when dragging entire folders into the playlist. Under construction. Link to comment
corehun Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Hi, arcam rdac's debug info, Audirvana rev. 0.9.3 debug information: Currently playing in Integer Mode: Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer, 6 bytes per frame @96.0kHz Hog Mode is on Devices found : 2 List of devices: Device #0: ID 0x104 Built-in Output UID:AppleHDAEngineOutput:8,0,1,2:0 Device #1: ID 0x106 ARCAM DAC UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:ARCAM:ARCAM DAC:6400000:1 Preferred device: ARCAM DAC UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:ARCAM:ARCAM DAC:6400000:1 Selected device: ID 0x106 ARCAM DAC UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:ARCAM:ARCAM DAC:6400000:1 5 available sample rates up to 96000.0Hz 32000.0 44100.0 48000.0 88200.0 96000.0 Audio buffer frame size : 29 to 1024 frames Current I/O buffer frame size : 1024 Physical (analog) volume control: No Virtual (digital) volume control: No Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2 Simple stereo device: yes Channel mapping: L:Stream 0 channel 0 R:Stream 0 channel 1 1 output streams: Stream ID 0x107 2 channels starting at 1 10 virtual formats: Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @96.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @88.2kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @48.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @44.1kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @32.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @32.0kHz 10 physical formats Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @32.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer @32.0kHz I think it supports integer mode, right? Link to comment
Always.Learning Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I am not sure that I'm getting the best of Audirvana in my particular set-up, although what I am hearing is very, very good indeed. I'm quite happy with the sonic quality I'm getting in the current set-up, but I'm hoping that Damien or someone else with expertise might be able to determine whether I can improve my settings (or anything else) to yield even greater sonic quality. My digital front end consists of a late 2009 Mac Mini running the latest OS with 4 GB RAM and an Ayre QB-9 DAC. My current preferences in Audirvana version 0.9.3 are as follows: Exclusive Access = yes Integer = yes Use Max I/O = yes Memory Allocated = 1536 MB Converter = SRC libSampleRate Quality = Best Upsampling = None The Audio MIDI is set so that the Ayre USB Interface is chosen for sound output and the format is set for 44.1 Hz and 2 channel - 24 bit. I have experimented with the converter set to Core Audio and Upsampling at 2x or 4x. In fairly cursory comparisons, I have not heard a significant difference between Core Audio with upsampling and SRC libSampleRate with no upsampling. I can't use SRC libSampleRate with upsampling or I get pauses during playback. When I run the debug report, it shows that Hog Mode is off, which doesn't seem right since I have selected Exclusive Access. Damien, can you or someone else make sense of this debug report and my preferences and tell me if there is anything I can do to optimize my set-up? Thanks!! Audirvana rev. 0.9.3 debug information: Hog Mode is off Devices found : 3 List of devices: Device #0: ID 0x107 Built-in Output UID:AppleHDAEngineOutput:8,0,1,1:0 Device #1: ID 0x109 Ayre USB Interface UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:Ayre Acoustics:Ayre USB Interface:Streamlength:1 Device #2: ID 0x101 Channel D PAD UID:Channel_dPADEngine:0 Preferred device: Ayre USB Interface UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:Ayre Acoustics:Ayre USB Interface:Streamlength:1 Selected device: ID 0x109 Ayre USB Interface UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:Ayre Acoustics:Ayre USB Interface:Streamlength:1 6 available sample rates up to 192000.0Hz 44100.0 48000.0 88200.0 96000.0 176400.0 192000.0 Audio buffer frame size : 14 to 6144 frames Current I/O buffer frame size : 512 Physical (analog) volume control: No Virtual (digital) volume control: No Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2 Simple stereo device: yes Channel mapping: L:Stream 0 channel 0 R:Stream 0 channel 1 1 output streams: Stream ID 0x10a 2 channels starting at 1 6 virtual formats: Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @192.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @176.4kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @96.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @88.2kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @48.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @44.1kHz 6 physical formats Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @192.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @176.4kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @96.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @88.2kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @48.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @44.1kHz Link to comment
driven -- by sound Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 @ damien78 *** Just heard back from MHDT: They dropped support for 176.4 playback for sound quality reasons. They're now working on a driver for better 88.2 support. *** Two things: 1) Confirmed - MHDT USBridge plays in Integer mode up to 192/24 kHz. 2) Under Active Audio Device the option to select 176.4 kHz is greyed out. Audirvana rev. 0.9.3 debug information: Currently playing in Integer Mode: Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer, 8 bytes per frame @192.0kHz Hog Mode is on Devices found : 5 List of devices: Device #0: ID 0x10c Built-in Output UID:AppleHDAEngineOutput:8,0,1,2:0 Device #1: ID 0x108 HDMI UID:AppleHDAEngineOutputDP:8,5,1,0:{11596-1375-0}:0 Device #2: ID 0x10e USB HS Audio Device UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:CMEDIA:USB2.0 High-Speed True HD Audio:26400000:1 Device #3: ID 0x104 Soundflower (2ch) UID:SoundflowerEngine:0 Device #4: ID 0x101 Soundflower (16ch) UID:SoundflowerEngine:1 Preferred device: USB HS Audio Device UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:CMEDIA:USB2.0 High-Speed True HD Audio:26400000:1 Selected device: ID 0x10e USB HS Audio Device UID:AppleUSBAudioEngine:CMEDIA:USB2.0 High-Speed True HD Audio:26400000:1 5 available sample rates up to 192000.0Hz 44100.0 48000.0 88200.0 96000.0 192000.0 Audio buffer frame size : 58 to 512 frames Current I/O buffer frame size : 512 Physical (analog) volume control: No Virtual (digital) volume control: No Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2 Simple stereo device: yes Channel mapping: L:Stream 0 channel 0 R:Stream 0 channel 1 1 output streams: Stream ID 0x10f 2 channels starting at 1 25 virtual formats: Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @192.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @96.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @88.2kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @48.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @44.1kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @192.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @192.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @96.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @88.2kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @48.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @44.1kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @192.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Non-PCM format: cac3 Non-PCM format: cac3 Non-PCM format: cac3 Non-PCM format: cac3 Non-PCM format: cac3 35 physical formats Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @192.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @192.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @96.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @88.2kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @48.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @44.1kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @192.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @192.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @192.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @96.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @88.2kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @48.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24bits little endian Signed Integer aligned low in 32bit @44.1kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @192.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @96.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @88.2kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @48.0kHz Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Signed Integer @44.1kHz Non-PCM format: cac3 Non-PCM format: cac3 Non-PCM format: cac3 Non-PCM format: cac3 Non-PCM format: cac3 driven | by sound - \"bats & audiophiles\"[br] Link to comment
driven -- by sound Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Yesterday, I installed the update to 0.9.3 and initially had problems with it playing in Integer mode. I kept changing settings and relaunching and got things resolved 10 minutes later. I played music for the next seven hours without incident. Just launched the player moments ago without changing settings and I'm plagued with "CPU Over" messages in Hog mode/Integer mode. The sound cuts in/out and player no longer responds, so to exit I have to click "Force quit." Thanks for your help! driven | by sound - \"bats & audiophiles\"[br] Link to comment
freddie40 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I've got a possible culprit for the CPU over problem. I play Audrivana (integer mode) and everything is fine. I then quit Audirvana and play "Pure Music" in integer mode. Everything is fine. I then quit "Pure Music" and go back to Audirvana. Now I have the CPU Over Problem. The only way to resolve it is to trash the Playlist, Turn Hog mode off, play a song, restart the machine, turn Integer mode on and then "More than not" integer mode works. Audirvana and Pure music don't get along for whatever reason. Dave BTW: I like Audirvana the best. Crystal Clear Music Tweaked Mac Mini / Yosemite -> JRiver 22 -> Ayre QB9DSD -> Bryston BP26DA -> Bryston 4BSST2 -> B&W 802Di | Transparent Reference XLRs, Transparent Super Speaker Cable, Maple Shade USB cable Link to comment
driven -- by sound Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Brilliant! Thanks for weighing in. While I did not go so far as to trash the Playlist, this evening I started out with Audirvana without incident. Your post highlighted my experience. I may start out with PM or Audirvana for a few hours and then switch. Yesterday was my first day with my new system and the new version of Audirvana. So, tomorrow it's crash-trash-reboot if necessary. Thanks for lending a voice. driven | by sound - \"bats & audiophiles\"[br] Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I suggest launching Activity Monitor to see whether you are out of memory. If so, restarting the Mac is a less drastic solution than trashing prefs. If you are using Hog Mode (exclusive access), wait a few seconds after quitting one audio player before launching another. You need to wait for the 1st audio player to relinquish its control over your DAC before you launch the 2nd. HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
freddie40 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Restarting the machine does not solve the problem. Dave Crystal Clear Music Tweaked Mac Mini / Yosemite -> JRiver 22 -> Ayre QB9DSD -> Bryston BP26DA -> Bryston 4BSST2 -> B&W 802Di | Transparent Reference XLRs, Transparent Super Speaker Cable, Maple Shade USB cable Link to comment
4est Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 The only time I have had cpu overs with Audirvana was when switching back and forth. Forrest: Win10 i9 9900KS/GTX1060 HQPlayer4>Win10 NAA DSD>Pavel's DSC2.6>Bent Audio TAP> Parasound JC1>"Naked" Quad ESL63/Tannoy PS350B subs<100Hz Link to comment
freddie40 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Same here. Dave Crystal Clear Music Tweaked Mac Mini / Yosemite -> JRiver 22 -> Ayre QB9DSD -> Bryston BP26DA -> Bryston 4BSST2 -> B&W 802Di | Transparent Reference XLRs, Transparent Super Speaker Cable, Maple Shade USB cable Link to comment
elcorso Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Sometimes I get CPU overload on Audirvana when I eject a USB-drive (or another USB process). Then, I think it's better (before playing music with any USB DAC/Interface) to 'Quit Process' in 'iTunesHelper' of 'Activity Monitor', it helps a lot. When you restart your Mac 'iTunesHelper' will be ready for sync. external devices, like iPhone, etc., that is his only goal. Best regards, Roch Link to comment
damien78 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 New release 0.9.4 with some bug fixes: Multi-channel devices, multiple instances better handling Correctly continuing playback to appended files to playlist when adding one at a time Other bug fixes MBP 15"/Mac Mini, Audirvana Plus, Audioquest Diamond USB, AMR DP-777, exD DSD DAC (for DSD), Pioneer N-70AE, Audioquest Niagara balanced/Viard Audio Design Silver HD, Accuphase E-560, Cabasse Sumatra MT420 Link to comment
freddie40 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 0.9.4 Does not fix the CPU Over problem Dave Crystal Clear Music Tweaked Mac Mini / Yosemite -> JRiver 22 -> Ayre QB9DSD -> Bryston BP26DA -> Bryston 4BSST2 -> B&W 802Di | Transparent Reference XLRs, Transparent Super Speaker Cable, Maple Shade USB cable Link to comment
wgscott Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 If anyone wants a simpler and cleaner version of the iTunes plug-in scripts, I just added them to google code svn: http://code.google.com/p/zsh-templates-osx/source/detail?r=170 Link to comment
Joebah Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (just listening to Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On")... I have been experiencing fairly frequent problems with Audirvana lately, without changing anything that I can think of... The program keeps quitting, freezing, quirking, etc., and I have had an unusual number of kernel panics. The last time it froze, I had added a single track to the playlist (What's going on), on repeat play. It played one and a half times and froze. Sorry I can't provide more information other than my general observations at this point. If there is anything I can do to try to report more specifically in the future (e.g., next time it freezes), please advise. Office desktop: iMac ((Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) (4 GHz Intel Core i7) (512GB SSD) (32GB Ram)) => USB (Kimber Kable USB Silver) => V-Link 192 USB Input => V-Link Coax Output (AQ Sidewinder) => Schiit Bifrost Multibit Coax Input => Schiit Bifrost Multibit RCA Output => Schitt Pyst => Schitt Asgard 2 => (Audioquest - Mini-3) => Audioengine HD6 (slave connected with Audioquest Type 4 cable) (Pangea AC-14 Power Cord) (IsoAcoustic L8R155 stands) => Audioquest Sidewinders => Audioengine S8 Subwoofer Link to comment
damien78 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 1) Crash log 2) The exact circumstances and process. "It crashed" is useless, "I clicked on this, with loading this file that has XX that is specific, and it occurred when the progress loading bar was at this position, ..." is much useful. The goal is for me to be able to reproduce it. Otherwise it's like impossible mission, or looking for the hidden pin in the dark, in the fog. Regarding the kernel panics, there is a flaw (sort of race condition) in the apple USB Audio driver regarding integer mode with class 1.0 devices. I've tried as much as possible to implement workarounds. But I need more information on the exact, precise and repeatable sequence of events that causes it. That'll also help to make good substance for submitting a bug report to Apple. Damien MBP 15"/Mac Mini, Audirvana Plus, Audioquest Diamond USB, AMR DP-777, exD DSD DAC (for DSD), Pioneer N-70AE, Audioquest Niagara balanced/Viard Audio Design Silver HD, Accuphase E-560, Cabasse Sumatra MT420 Link to comment
Joebah Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 to give you as much information as I can when problems occur in the future. Thanks! Office desktop: iMac ((Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) (4 GHz Intel Core i7) (512GB SSD) (32GB Ram)) => USB (Kimber Kable USB Silver) => V-Link 192 USB Input => V-Link Coax Output (AQ Sidewinder) => Schiit Bifrost Multibit Coax Input => Schiit Bifrost Multibit RCA Output => Schitt Pyst => Schitt Asgard 2 => (Audioquest - Mini-3) => Audioengine HD6 (slave connected with Audioquest Type 4 cable) (Pangea AC-14 Power Cord) (IsoAcoustic L8R155 stands) => Audioquest Sidewinders => Audioengine S8 Subwoofer Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Damien published a white paper on the jitter-reduction approach of Audirvana, which is based on the theory that CPU activity that is correlated with the music impairs sound quality more than uncorrelated CPU activity. Damien's paper is on the download page for technical papers describing a new DAC from Abbingdon Music Research: http://www.amr-audio.co.uk/html/dp777_tech-papers.html (Damien's paper is the one with Audirvana in the title.) Abbingdon's DAC uses an impressive jitter-reduction scheme similar to that originally used in the Lavry Gold and now used by Naim. HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
elcorso Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Very illustrative paper Damien, already confirmed by a lot of time listening test under Integer mode! By the way Bob, no news on Metric Halo firewire drivers for Integer mode? Best regards, Roch Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 When Metric Halo releases an update, I expect Allen Rowand will announce it on the discussion forum: http://www.macosxaudio.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=34 I subscribe to the Metric Halo email discussion list, and no update has been mentioned there either. HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
Shahrukh Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 OK, maybe I missed something here, but how do I get .cue files to play/load in Audirvana? Link to comment
svelc Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 cue files are not supported yet. You can use xld to convert them into individual tracks. Link to comment
soundsolutions11 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I was wondering if there is a known issue with slight "pops" in the sound, kind of like a vinyl recording. They are not loud but clearly present. Is there a setting that may need tweaking? The funny thing is it is not present on every song. I am USB out from my mini into a v-link then to pre pro dac. Despite this issue the sound is very good. I admire your skills! Link to comment
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