Why Do People Come To Computer Audiophile To Display Their Contempt For Audiophiles?

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It gets boring on Lithium Audio where everyone is required to agree with one another according to the User Agreement.

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There does seem to be an overall degradation of the quality of discourse, at least in the US.  There is far too much emphasis on identifying with a team (or political party) and scoring cheap shots, and far too little honest deliberative discourse.  I would much rather learn something new, rather than be right about some trivial point.  There was a grain of truth in my earlier snarky comment -- those guys won't learn anything from each other because they are all in agreement.  If you can learn something new and different from someone who has an opposite point of view, it seems like everyone comes out better for it.  But you don't get that unless you have an honest exchange of viewpoints.  Disagreements about facts are fine.  Disagreements that come down to partisan identity BS gets us nowhere. That's why I find labels like "objectivist" or "subjectivist" counterproductive.

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45 minutes ago, mourip said:

If you do feel the need to defend a strongly help belief please do it objectively without a personal attack.

 

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One other thing is the "arguments" seem to be more intense and personal when debating phenomena with very small differences.  Nobody seems to get worked up over whether two sets of speakers sound quite different.

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18 hours ago, Jud said:

Seen a lot of this lately, so just wonderin’.

 

In answer to the "Why do they come?" part of the question, I think this tends to happen when there is a particularly divisive thread, often involving personalities from other internet sites, such as the "Person X at website Y says this slanderous thing about your USB doohickie" thread.

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1 minute ago, kumakuma said:

 

Why don't you just add him to your ignore list?

 

I added them both.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

Anyone else miss the "Vote Down" button?

 

When we had the down vote capability, he stalked me and down-voted everything I posted.  His toxic invective is probably the single most unpleasant thing I deal with on the internet.  I put him on ignore, but unfortunately the verbal sludge still slithers its way into my field of vision when he gets quoted.

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18 minutes ago, christopher3393 said:

 

Even the Grateful Dead stuff? C'mon. He voted down JERRY?

 

Maybe it was Trey Anastasio.

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This just gets better and better.

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Time for a music break!

 

 

Hey Jud, don't make it bad
Take a sad post and make it better
Remember not to let him into your thread
Then you can start to make it better
Hey Jud, don't be afraid
You were made to go out and get him
The minute you don't let him get under your skin
Then you begin to make it better
And anytime you feel the pain, hey Jud, refrain
Don't carry the world upon your shoulders
For well you know that it's a fool who plays it cool
By making his world a little colder
Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah
Hey Jud, don't let me down
You have found him, now go and stalk him
Remember not to let him into your thread
Then you can start to make it better
So let it out and let it in, hey Jud, begin
You're waiting for someone to perform with
And don't you know that it's isn't you, hey Jud, you'll do
The movement you need is on your shoulder
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Hey Jud, don't make it bad
Take a sad post and make it better
Remember not to let him get under your skin
Then you'll begin to make it
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They have to be fully charged for this to be a quantitatively accurate objective measurement.

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1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I agree consistency is nice. However, consider all the scientists and engineers who also believe in a higher power or god(s). Very inconsistent belief, but we don't throw out all their beliefs because of one belief. 

 

At risk of straying off-topic, in the case of scientists, that number is comparatively few (about 7% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences).  In the (admittedly extreme) case of Francis Collins, it does make me worry about many of his other beliefs.

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8 minutes ago, 4est said:

 

With only 2500 elected members, I am not sure that is a good example. I am not a believer either btw.

 

Well, there is a Lake Wobegon effect.

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3 minutes ago, 4est said:

With whom? I seem to see it from both sides along with the "othering" displayed around here.

 

Sorry, I meant pretty much everyone in the National Academy is above average.

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3 minutes ago, 4est said:

And likely so are the top tier of the religious elite.

 

There is always the question of whether they actually believe, or are just cynical power-hungry opportunists.

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6 minutes ago, christopher3393 said:

scientism

 

What Karl Popper used to describe a tendency in the social sciences to slavishly emulate what they (wrongly) perceived as being the aims and methods of the physical sciences.

 

Feynman used the term Cargo Cult Sciences.

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6 hours ago, christopher3393 said:

.  (winkie of absolution)

 

I love to see terminology like this catch on.

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14 minutes ago, jabbr said:

 

or would CSS have been more appropriate?

 

Cascading Sarcasm Sheet?

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14 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Holy crap, that guy has some serious time on his hands and serious issues with Stereophile and its personnel. Life is short, perhaps he should stop reading the magazine he now hates and do something he enjoys. 

 

Well, it looks like the review (and mastery of HTML) are 17 years out of date, so hopefully he is doing something enjoyable.

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Yeah, a better analogy might be an over-stocked, under-fed trout pond.