Album of the Evening

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On 8/25/2022 at 11:05 PM, Iving said:

Don't think this has been posted recently. At this time I have 2 different CDs only. No vinyl - notwithstanding thorough recent research.

 

Try the hi-res mono from 2013 (I think that's the year) I've recently re-evaluated and decided I like that one the best. 

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19 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I still remember the first time I heard "Kashmir". It came over the radio as I pulled up to a friend's house, and I just sat there and listened. Transfixed. 

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2 hours ago, Musicophile said:

New on Qobuz. 
 

 

I think same quartet as the original JR quartet album in 1994. Interesting to compare. 

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6 hours ago, Jud said:

 

Saw him on the tour after this came out. Amazing show.

Me too. My biggest memory is that he knew there would be people in the crowd yelling for "Layla", so to prevent it the band came on stage in the dark, wthout an intro,  and hit the first famous chord of Layla simultaneously with the lights turning on. The crowd went crazy, of course, and listened without screaming "Layla" constantly afterwards.

It was very smart performance management and also a great way to please the crowd. 

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22 minutes ago, JoeWhip said:

Heard a lot of praise for this transfer so I obtained a copy in DXD. Despite all of the accolades, it sounds no better and perhaps a tad worse than my 24/192 file from HDTracks, which I may add sounds fantastic.

"Transferred from a 15ips 2-track tape"

 

The problem with HDTT is that they don't do a good job of telling you the provenance. What does the above mean? They don't have the original master (not available from Sony) , so what is it?  A commercial copy from years ago sold as reel to reel? A copy of a safety copy that someone has access to? 

 

The HDT comes from the digitized version of the existing master tapes done years ago. So it's highly likely going to sound better than the HDTT. 

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New release on Qobuz. Good performance. Good recording.

 

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6 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Analogue Productions?

According to discogs, it is AP.

https://www.discogs.com/release/6137684-Creedence-Clearwater-Revival-Green-River

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16 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

Of course, it's not really "Rock"; it's pretty serious big band jazz, some sophisticated compositions with some rock aspects, but it's jazz at heart. Probably my favorite Zappa album. The 2012 remaster (CD) is quite good sounding. 

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Recent addition at Qobuz.

Quite good. Slightly unusual version of the Ravel/Mussorgsky, supposedly more accurate to the original Ravel score.

Sound on the CD Version is good. At Amazon there were a lot of comments that the sound was awful. Maybe that's the SACD layer in that version. 

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6 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Can’t find it in Atmos, but did find the high resolution available for only $10 https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8061266--gidon-kremer-new-seasons

Not sure, and I'm using foreign currency, but when I went to the page all the versions (including mp3 and 24/192) were all identically priced at the equivalent of $8.62.

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If you like Mingus, this is very good. Qobuz.

 

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Very good performance, excellent recording.

On sale in DSD at NativeDSD.

 

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12 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

So good.

If I had to live with only one Coltrane album (only by force, I'd never agree) that would be it.

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On 2/2/2023 at 4:31 AM, graham said:

This to me is absolutely fascinating. Another win from Tone Poet.

Not likely to get a party pumping though.

Wow, another classic BN album I was totally unaware of. And I'm a Shorter fan. Of course, the output there was never ending, so not a surprise there are some albums I've missed. I wasn't among the record buying public at the time.....

If you like 60's BN, this is a really good one.

Recording (Qobuz 192) also sounds fantastic. On the buy list.

 

Thnanks, Graham.

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Just released from HDTT. DSD 128 master created from 15 ips tape. Slightly different versions (same ones, different lenghts) of some cuts. If you don't have this album  or don't have a really good sounding version, this one sounds very nice.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Allan F said:

Remixed and released in 2003 without Phil Spector embellishments - as Paul McCartney believed the album should sound.

Includes "Don't Let Me Down", omitted from original release.

 

It's an interesting topic: is this more "authentic" than the Spector version? Or is this just another version from another POV? Yes, it's PM, but almost 50 years later and w/out John and George.

Comparing this to the original Glyn Johns mix released not long ago, adds another point of comparison. Maybe that one is really the "authentic " version, as GJ did what the brief for the album told him to do: Show the raw Beatles as they sounded live. Except the group didn't like it when they heard it, and abandoned the project until they needed a soundtrack for the film release, and Spector was brought in to put something useable together for the film. The "Naked" version is also just PM's vision of what he wants the songs to sound like, and not 100% "authentic", either. 

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26 minutes ago, Allan F said:

 

Weren't a number of the songs recorded live on the rooftop of the Apple building?

On the original album,3 of the songs are from that performance.

 

20 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

My guess is the actual live sound of that performance was terrible. 

Not at all. They had everything miked and connected directly down into the boards in the studio in the basement of the Apple Building. It was released not long ago as "Get Back - The Rooftop Performance"

 

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Are they supposed to sound like live performances?

The original idea was to practice and write songs that would be practiced and played live in concert. It was all supposed to be climax for a  live TV performance at the end. The album was supposed to be them "live" - that is, without overdubs, etc. The Get Back sessions docu shows a lot of this. The whole reason it was originally filmed was to get material for the TV show. They eventually gave up on the idea for the TV special and  live TV performance, and the rooftop was a substitute. 

 

The original album was supposed to sound "live" as it would be with no overdubs, etc. The Beatles didn't want to deal with the many, many hours of tape/video and shelved the project.

It was revived several months later (after Abbey Road was recorded), and it was decided to make a movie for theatrical release to recoup something from the whole project.

 

For the movie they decided to use some sequencies from the docu that hadn't resulted in finished songs. So a new vocal for "For You Blue", and more work on "I Me Mine" was done in Jan 1970 to produce finished songs suitable for the album and Let it Be movie soundtrack. 

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4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I prefer not to even go down these paths anymore. Immersive audio has really changed my perspective in more ways than one. In this case, I just don't care anymore about trying to determine the original intent of artists 50 years or 50 days ago. I don't think it even gets us as listeners anywhere, other than into interesting conversations. We think we know, based on a few published quotes, but in reality I wouldn't bet a bitcoin on any of this. Plus, as an audiophile, I just want to accurately reproduce what's on the commercial release, no matter what that is.

 

It may feel good to believe we have the "definitive" version as the artists intended, but the reality is it's just a different version in 99% of the cases. 

 

Back to listening. Now playing ...

 

 

Pretty much agree. We have whatever has been released and that's all. It's pretty clear that lots of albums have no one way they are "supposed" to sound. 

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Just released. New drummer. Same sound. If you like them, you'll like this:

 

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12 hours ago, Allan F said:

 

I agree with you about Tom Waits, but I definitely disagree with you regarding Leonard Cohen. How many covers of Dylan's songs do you hear currently? OTOH, to choose the most obvious example, Cohen's Hallelujah continues to be covered by many artists, including the likes of Andrea Bocelli.

Check some more. Dylan is both covered and sampled all the time.

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1 hour ago, AnotherSpin said:

Uncompromising early free-jazz from the Wolfgang Dauner Sextet. Jean-Luc Ponty sounds much fresher than in his solo projects or in Zappa's albums. Those who, like me, were first introduced to Eberhard Weber's playing in the ECM albums from the 70s might be interested to hear him play in a freer manner.

 

 

New one for me, never heard of it before. Interesting. Especially for 1967 recording. Thanks.

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Just released. 1980 live recording. Good music, good sound.

Only $4.99 with Qobuz Sublime.

 

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Available today in hi-res streaming and via file download. Supposedly remaster from original analog tapes.

Streaming from Qobuz. Sounds good to me.

 

 

 

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On sale at eClassical with code summer24kws

Performance and recording are top notch.