The Computer Audiophile Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 I can't get it to fail. Here are two videos I just took. 1. Me browsing the touchscreen interface to MinimServer running on my QNAP. 2. Me browsing the Eversolo iOS app to MinimServer running on my QNAP. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Daren F Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 That's interesting. I have tried using Generic DLNA, Legacy UPnP and Original Format settings within JRiver. The various instances show up but nothing populates. Tried on both the DMP-A6 screen and the Android app. Perhaps an issue with my network? I have no issues with a WiiM Pro. Link to comment
DuckToller Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 59 minutes ago, Daren F said: That's interesting. I have tried using Generic DLNA, Legacy UPnP and Original Format settings within JRiver. The various instances show up but nothing populates. Tried on both the DMP-A6 screen and the Android app. Perhaps an issue with my network? I have no issues with a WiiM Pro. Darren, can your WIIM pro (no issues) can see and access your JRMC library ? You may want to test the Audiophile 24-bit DAC DLNA profile, that works for me between both of my JRIVER devices and is accessible from - 2020 smart TV, - my 2023 tablet with A12 and - my WIIM Pro - my phone with A14. via VLC, WIIM, Bubble UPNP or UAPP throughout the network. However, depending on the size of the library complete parsing may take a while. Before this action isn't finish I may see as well only empty folders. Please excuse my ITALIC German Link to comment
DuckToller Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, botrytis said: So, this device is based on Android 11 not 14 which is the current version of the OS. Android 11 is not supported any more nor is it getting security patches. This is like having a red flag and waving it in the middle of a field and hoping there is no bull around to charge at you. This is why I will not buy any Android or iOS-based music appliance. The OS goes out of date too fast. How is the company dealing with this issue? You know, my friend, if you want to be sure where your unlimited data plan flows to, like, foreverly, just stick with Apple and Microsoft :-) Google doesnt't fit in that short list ... and I see his software driven network connected devices as a single point of "programmed" obsolence. For most of us it might be easier to upgrade a 149$ WIIM Pro than a 10x more expensive Eversolo DMP-A6 every 3 or 5 years. But even that idea is kind of pita, imho. However, the core DAC functionality may work as well without network/internet access with HDD access - if the software won't be maintained anymore. It's like buying a Gustard DAC and not using it's streaming functionality.;-) Link to comment
Daren F Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 20 minutes ago, DuckToller said: Darren, can your WIIM pro (no issues) can see and access your JRMC library ? You may want to test the Audiophile 24-bit DAC DLNA profile, that works for me between both of my JRIVER devices and is accessible from - 2020 smart TV, - my 2023 tablet with A12 and - my WIIM Pro - my phone with A14. via VLC, WIIM, Bubble UPNP or UAPP throughout the network. However, depending on the size of the library complete parsing may take a while. Before this action isn't finish I may see as well only empty folders. Please excuse my ITALIC German Yes, WiiM will access my JRiver library without any issues. I enabled Generic DLNA, Legacy UPnP, Original Format and Audiophile 24-bit DAC profiles in JRiver. The WiiM sees all of them as well as my NUC on the network. The Eversolo app only sees the Original Format profile. SMB shares on the Eversolo app work. It can also see the Plex server and Enby server under Streaming\Emby Beta and Plex Beta however Plex and Enby don't show up under Streaming\UPnP. I don't know why Emby, Jellyfin and Plex need their own group and aren't just discoverable under the UPnP category? I would use SMB, Plex or Enby but they don't support the use of playlists or smart playlists. Anyway, thanks for your input. Link to comment
botrytis Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 21 minutes ago, DuckToller said: You know, my friend, if you want to be sure where your unlimited data plan flows to, like, foreverly, just stick with Apple and Microsoft :-) Google doesnt't fit in that short list ... and I see his software driven network connected devices as a single point of "programmed" obsolence. For most of us it might be easier to upgrade a 149$ WIIM Pro than a 10x more expensive Eversolo DMP-A6 every 3 or 5 years. But even that idea is kind of pita, imho. However, the core DAC functionality may work as well without network/internet access with HDD access - if the software won't be maintained anymore. It's like buying a Gustard DAC and not using it's streaming functionality.;-) My server (also my gaming PC, which is a R9-5900X - I know 🤓 ) and my 2 mini-PC clients (around 200 USD each), with Win 11. I do keep it up to date. We shall see what is next. I have used Apple, not my cup o' tea but YMMW. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Popular Post DuckToller Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 23 minutes ago, Daren F said: Yes, WiiM will access my JRiver library without any issues. I enabled Generic DLNA, Legacy UPnP, Original Format and Audiophile 24-bit DAC profiles in JRiver. The WiiM sees all of them as well as my NUC on the network. The Eversolo app only sees the Original Format profile. SMB shares on the Eversolo app work. It can also see the Plex server and Enby server under Streaming\Emby Beta and Plex Beta however Plex and Enby don't show up under Streaming\UPnP. I don't know why Emby, Jellyfin and Plex need their own group and aren't just discoverable under the UPnP category? I would use SMB, Plex or Enby but they don't support the use of playlists or smart playlists. Anyway, thanks for your input. That's kind of strange, isn't it? Would you like to try BubbleUPNP as an app on the Eversolo or your mobile phone as control point? Just an idea for isolatig your problem. I would assume from your information that JRIVER isn't the problem. If the problem doesnt hurt or bug you enough, and a FW reset of the device might not come in handy ... living with it seems more appropriate , sorry to say so .... botrytis and Daren F 1 1 Link to comment
McNulty Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Really surprised you -as an immersive audio advocate- didn’t test the DMP-A6 multichannel HDMI output. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, McNulty said: Really surprised you -as an immersive audio advocate- didn’t test the DMP-A6 multichannel HDMI output. I have nothing with an HDMI input. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
McNulty Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I have nothing with an HDMI input. I guess the review sample of the VanityPRO has left the building contrary to your previous statement 😉: Audiopraise VanityPRO is one of those tools every audiophile should have connected to his system at all times Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, McNulty said: I guess the review sample of the VanityPRO has left the building contrary to your previous statement 😉: Audiopraise VanityPRO is one of those tools every audiophile should have connected to his system at all times Ah, I actually have two of them here right now, but I often think most people mean HDMI processor with decoding capabilities. McNulty 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I can't get it to fail. Here are two videos I just took. 1. Me browsing the touchscreen interface to MinimServer running on my QNAP. 2. Me browsing the Eversolo iOS app to MinimServer running on my QNAP. Chris, How did you achieve having minimserver showing on the 6 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I can't get it to fail. Here are two videos I just took. 1. Me browsing the touchscreen interface to MinimServer running on my QNAP. 2. Me browsing the Eversolo iOS app to MinimServer running on my QNAP. Hi Chris, How did you achieve getting minimserver showing on the DMP-A6 front panel through Streaming > UPNP ? I have minimserver running on Win 11, and I am totally unable to get similar results on my DMP-A6 unit, whatever setting I try. No problem however streaming to the DMP-A6 from minimserver using BubbleUPnP as a control point. Was your DMP-A6 running the latest beta firmware ? You would do me a great service by looking into that. Regards, André Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, André Gosselin said: Chris, How did you achieve having minimserver showing on the Hi Chris, How did you achieve getting minimserver showing on the DMP-A6 front panel through Streaming > UPNP ? I have minimserver running on Win 11, and I am totally unable to get similar results on my DMP-A6 unit, whatever setting I try. No problem however streaming to the DMP-A6 from minimserver using BubbleUPnP as a control point. Was your DMP-A6 running the latest beta firmware ? You would do me a great service by looking into that. Regards, André I don’t believe I’m running beta anything. Just normal updates. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Same numbers as mine for the "About" DMP-A6. But still no success on my side. Minimserver is undetected by the DMP-A6 . My minimserver is running on Win-11 wired, as my DMP-A6.. What about your gear? Do not see what else I could look at. Hope Eversolo dev's could chime in. Thanks for your help Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 54 minutes ago, André Gosselin said: Same numbers as mine for the "About" DMP-A6. But still no success on my side. Minimserver is undetected by the DMP-A6 . My minimserver is running on Win-11 wired, as my DMP-A6.. What about your gear? Do not see what else I could look at. Hope Eversolo dev's could chime in. Thanks for your help My MinimServer is running on my QNAP NAS. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 hours ago, André Gosselin said: But still no success on my side. Minimserver is undetected by the DMP-A6 . My minimserver is running on Win-11 wired, Check your windows network type: should be Private and not Public The Computer Audiophile 1 Stefano My audio system Link to comment
McNulty Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 19 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Ah, I actually have two of them here right now, but I often think most people mean HDMI processor with decoding capabilities. Maybe you could consider to change the output module of one of those to the multichannel version Kal Rubinson reviewed for Stereophile for flexibility in future reviews? Assuming your system accepts 4 x AES/EBU input of course. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 37 minutes ago, McNulty said: Maybe you could consider to change the output module of one of those to the multichannel version Kal Rubinson reviewed for Stereophile for flexibility in future reviews? Assuming your system accepts 4 x AES/EBU input of course. Good idea. I have the stereo output version and USB out version now. My Merging unit supports AES inputs up to 8 channels. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 11 hours ago, stefano_mbp said: Check your windows network type: should be Private and not Public Thanks. I checked that my windows network type is set to Private. I even disabled the firewall. Restarted the windows server and minimserver. Restarted the DMP-A6 and did a factory reset. Tried going WiFI instead of wired. Still no luck. Streaming > UPNP still shows No Data on the DMP-A6 front panel. Again, I do not have any problem connecting minimserver to DMP-A6 with BubbleUPnP. Thanks for your help. Link to comment
DuckToller Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, André Gosselin said: Thanks. I checked that my windows network type is set to Private. I even disabled the firewall. Restarted the windows server and minimserver. Restarted the DMP-A6 and did a factory reset. Tried going WiFI instead of wired. Still no luck. Streaming > UPNP still shows No Data on the DMP-A6 front panel. Again, I do not have any problem connecting minimserver to DMP-A6 with BubbleUPnP. Thanks for your help. So your problem is located with the uPnP control point functionality as part of the Eversolo software suite? Natively or through Android? Is that correct? My favourite specialist with knowledge in regard to UPNP in this forum is @Cebolla, to whom I like to send my best wishes for a perfect start into 2014. Perhaps he has an idea how to approach towards an solution? Link to comment
steveoat Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I use this for playing multichannel dsf files connected via HDMI to my denon receiver. The Eversolo has a custom HDMI audio only output that sounds quite good for HDMI. Chris, did you get a chance to try this? Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 20 hours ago, DuckToller said: So your problem is located with the uPnP control point functionality as part of the Eversolo software suite? Natively or through Android? Is that correct? Well summarized. The Eversolo UPNP native control point functionality (as part of the unit software suite) does not work for me. I have two UPNP servers running on my Win11 system: minimserver and MediaMonkey. Both can be seen by BubbleUPnP as the control point on the many android tablets I have at home. But the Eversolo native UPNP control point sees none of my UPNP servers. Chris has posted a video where we clearly see that his Eversolo unit detects his minimserver without issue. But Chris' minimserver is running on a QNAP NAS, whereas mine is running on win11. I believe the QNAP is linux-based, and the QNAP OS may handle UPNP differently with some secret sauce thrown in. Could that point to a possible explanation ? Perhaps also his minimserver config contains a special setting related to UPNP. I use the standard values for the communication ports. Perhaps this is different for Chris. Regards, Link to comment
clipper Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 1/11/2024 at 12:16 PM, Arcticair said: This one definitely makes me wonder since I just received my Auralic Altair G1.1 at almost 3x the cost of the Eversolo. One glaring omission I detected in both this review and the Eversolo webpage is mention of Spotify Connect. I do like the native Amazon compatibility as that service is gaining momentum to give Spotify a run. I like the touchscreen for navigating music and settings but I also like a web interface which is another topic not mentioned? Otherwise, great specs for this streamer. The DMP-A6 has Spotify Connect. It looks like it's not mentioned on the Eversolo product page. I'm attaching 3 screenshots from the Streaming Menu of Eversolo app running on my iPhone (showing what the built-in streaming options currently are). DuckToller 1 Link to comment
JMD54 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Chris As you thoroughly tested and reviewed the DMP-A6 and a also a big proponent of JPlay for IOS did you determine the correct settings to reliably get the Radio function to activate at the end of the queue? It seems to be a hit or miss and mostly miss proposition. If at then end of the queue you go to the Radio screen you will see that it is populated but most times it will not transition over to it but either just keep replaying the last song in the queue or just stop altogether. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, JMD54 said: Chris As you thoroughly tested and reviewed the DMP-A6 and a also a big proponent of JPlay for IOS did you determine the correct settings to reliably get the Radio function to activate at the end of the queue? It seems to be a hit or miss and mostly miss proposition. If at then end of the queue you go to the Radio screen you will see that it is populated but most times it will not transition over to it but either just keep replaying the last song in the queue or just stop altogether. I just tested this feature for many many hours on the Antipodes K50 server and it worked perfectly. Not sure what to make of this though. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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