macOS Ventura 13.0

[bobbmd]

Hello: is there a reason NOT to upgrade this new version in terms of how ot will handle TIDAL Qobuz ROON and Audirvana Studio (all with their respective newest upgrades ie ROON 2.0(build 1143), Audirvana Studio 2.0.0 , TIDAL, Qobuz 6.1.2-b108

if this is not correct thread/forum i will also post on general and on the streaming forum under respective players/apps

thanks

[semente]

1 minute ago, bobbmd said:

Hello: is there a reason NOT to upgrade this new version in terms of how ot will handle TIDAL Qobuz ROON and Audirvana Studio (all with their respective newest upgrades ie ROON 2.0(build 1143), Audirvana Studio 2.0.0 , TIDAL, Qobuz 6.1.2-b108

if this is not correct thread/forum i will also post on general and on the streaming forum under respective players/apps

thanks

 

I usually wait a few months. Didn't even know it had been launched and for me it doesn't have anything new that worth the risk.

[AnotherSpin]

Just opened system info - macOS High Sierra, works fine.

[matthias]

4 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said:

Just opened system info - macOS High Sierra, works fine.

 

Haha, true, same for me :-)

 

Matt

[botrytis]

My wife worked for a scientific startup that used Mac computers. Everyone had different versions of the OS and no one could really work together since some people could get the software to work and others could not. This was database software, she was using, it was a real shit show that way.

[GregWormald]

I never upgrade until the first bug fix release is out.

[AudioDoctor]

It's working fine here on various  M1 Macs.

[AudioDoctor]

13 hours ago, AnotherSpin said:

Just opened system info - macOS High Sierra, works fine.

 

Try putting that on an Apple Silicon Mac and get back to me...  ;-)

[AnotherSpin]

4 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

Try putting that on an Apple Silicon Mac and get back to me...  ;-)

 

Have no idea is my Mac Silicon or not.

[AudioDoctor]

12 hours ago, AnotherSpin said:

 

Have no idea is my Mac Silicon or not.

 

If its running High Sierra, it is not, it is an Intel Mac.

[AnotherSpin]

3 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

If its running High Sierra, it is not, it is an Intel Mac.

 

Seriously?

[AudioDoctor]

1 hour ago, AnotherSpin said:

 

Seriously?

 

yes.

[JoeWhip]

If your Mac has a M1 chip. It is Apple . Anything else, Intel.

[AudioDoctor]

1 hour ago, JoeWhip said:

If your Mac has a M1 chip. It is Apple . Anything else, Intel.

 

Or Motorola if it's really old... ;-)

[semente]

On 10/31/2022 at 1:55 PM, AudioDoctor said:

 

Or Motorola if it's really old... ;-)

 

My first Mac had a 120 MHz PowerPC 604 CPU.

I've just checked and it came with OS System 7.5.3

[AudioDoctor]

14 hours ago, semente said:

 

My first Mac had a 120 MHz PowerPC 604 CPU.

I've just checked and it came with OS System 7.5.3

 

Were those made my Motorola, or are the Motorola chips even older?

[semente]

3 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

Were those made my Motorola, or are the Motorola chips even older?

 

A joint venture of Apple, IBM and Motorola –> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM_alliance

[Miska]

4 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

Were those made my Motorola, or are the Motorola chips even older?

 

Motorola MC68k based Macs were the first computers Apple named "Macintosh".

 

First Mac I used was IIx:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_IIx

 

But first Apple I used was Apple II:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II

 

Then later appeared PowerPC. IBM used PowerPC processors for a long time and they are still used in some embedded applications. One of the biggest and most well known users was Sony on PlayStation 3 that used IBM's Cell processor (one core plus co-processors):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PowerPC_processors

[semente]

42 minutes ago, Miska said:

But first Apple I used was Apple II:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II

 

Wow, that is one old machine. 😃

 

The first one I used was a Quadra 700: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Quadra_700

[AudioDoctor]

9 hours ago, Miska said:

 

Motorola MC68k based Macs were the first computers Apple named "Macintosh".

 

First Mac I used was IIx:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_IIx

 

But first Apple I used was Apple II:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II

 

Then later appeared PowerPC. IBM used PowerPC processors for a long time and they are still used in some embedded applications. One of the biggest and most well known users was Sony on PlayStation 3 that used IBM's Cell processor (one core plus co-processors):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PowerPC_processors

 

Thanks Miska! I remember using the Apple IIe in school...

[routlaw]

Back to Ventura. On another thread I had posted about upgrading to Ventura and at that point all seem to be working ok. Since then I have discovered an annoying bug though not too serious. Putting my M1 Mac Mini to sleep for a period then waking up seems to scramble its recognition of existing monitor. It also will do this occasionally when launching Audivana Origin while operating the program via its remote on my iPhone with monitor off. Turn the monitor back on after a session and the desktop simply disappears because the view is zoomed in to a huge percentage. The only remedy I have found is to navigate to the menu in upper left hand corner and launch system preferences, then change where the launch bar is located, at which point the proper view is reinstated. 

 

Never seen anything like this in well over 20 years working on Macs. Very annoying to say the least.

[musicjunkie917]

On 11/13/2022 at 4:24 AM, Miska said:

Motorola MC68k based Macs were the first computers Apple named "Macintosh".

 

Fun fact: The first Apple computer to use the Motorola 68000 was the Lisa which came out in January 1983.

 

...almost 40 years ago...

[AudioDoctor]

1 hour ago, routlaw said:

Back to Ventura. On another thread I had posted about upgrading to Ventura and at that point all seem to be working ok. Since then I have discovered an annoying bug though not too serious. Putting my M1 Mac Mini to sleep for a period then waking up seems to scramble its recognition of existing monitor. It also will do this occasionally when launching Audivana Origin while operating the program via its remote on my iPhone with monitor off. Turn the monitor back on after a session and the desktop simply disappears because the view is zoomed in to a huge percentage. The only remedy I have found is to navigate to the menu in upper left hand corner and launch system preferences, then change where the launch bar is located, at which point the proper view is reinstated. 

 

Never seen anything like this in well over 20 years working on Macs. Very annoying to say the least.

 

 

Report it as a bug to Apple here:  https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.html

They will read it, and if they deem it necessary get back to you and ask for logs and such. I know this because I have a dialogue with them now with a weird problem I am having.

[routlaw]

Good point and suggestion @AudioDoctor Have not had to do that in long time, slipped my mind.

[The Computer Audiophile]

Just to inform people who may run into this at some point. I had issues with playback after upgrading to Ventura. I would get a glitch at about 1 or 2 seconds into each track. The cause of the issue is Ventura's / Audio MIDI aggregate devices. When audio was routed through an aggregate device, I had the issue. When audio was sent straight to the "real" audio device, I have no issues.