The Computer Audiophile Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Rehearsal tapes show band struggling with the groove and rhythm of million-seller Take Five, claims new book https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2020/feb/08/jazz-dave-brubeck-band-take-five-rehearsal-tapes-bad-student-band Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Hmmm.. whitebread musicians.. ( @Ralf11 courtesy ). Trane used to enter the studio and record material for 3 albums in 2 days, same with Miles. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Ralf11 said: heh I really dig this expression! ('whitebread jazz' not 'heh') Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted February 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2020 You guys are almost as elitist as George. tmtomh and Ralf11 1 1 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, mansr said: You guys are almost as elitist as George. There's too much bad and average music not to be one. Same applies to audio gear. Beside that, now I live in Koninkrijk der Nederlanden Link to comment
mansr Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 12 hours ago, sphinxsix said: There's too much bad and average music not to be one. Dismissing Dave Brubeck is still a step too far. Link to comment
Teresa Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, mansr said: Dismissing Dave Brubeck is still a step too far. IMHO it is personal taste not elitist posturing. For example, I deleted my DSD download of the Analogue Productions remastering of Dave Brubeck Quartet's Time Out because I just didn't care for the music. BTW the DSD download sounded excellent, however I only keep music that I like both the sound quality and the music. I have dementia. I save all my posts in a text file I call Forums. I do a search in that file to find out what I said or did in the past. I still love music. Teresa Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, mansr said: Dismissing Dave Brubeck is still a step too far. 1 hour ago, Teresa said: IMHO it is personal taste not elitist posturing. For example, I deleted my DSD download of the Analogue Productions remastering of Dave Brubeck Quartet's Time Out because I just didn't care for the music. BTW the DSD download sounded excellent, however I only keep music that I like both the sound quality and the music. I didn't dismiss him although I have only his 'Time Out' SACD (also AP, @Teresa I agree - sounds great!). Frankly 'Blue Rondo..' and 'Take Five' are the only tracks from this album I remember. I think his use of meters like 9/8 (Rondo) or 5/4 (Take Five) was quite interesting just as the melodic aspect of both pieces (IMO they deservedly became jazz 'hits'). BTW I believe this meter itself could be a problem for the musicians during the above mentioned session. I don't care that much about the remaining compositions from the album, maybe because I'm not a waltz fan. In general DB is too smooth for my taste. IMHO his importance in jazz can't be compared with Miles or Trane. Link to comment
mansr Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: I didn't dismiss him You characterised him as "white-bread." Seems dismissive to me. 12 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: his use of meters like 9/8 (Rondo) or 5/4 (Take Five) That was anything but "blandly conventional" at the time. If you don't like his style, that's fine, but the "white-bread" label really doesn't sit well here. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, mansr said: That was anything but "blandly conventional" at the time. I agree in 100%! 5 minutes ago, mansr said: Seems I misunderstood the term. Thanks for the English lesson! Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 It's an American lesson. wait a bit to turn on the sound and avoid the ad: Link to comment
RickyV Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: It's an American lesson. wait a bit to turn on the sound and avoid the ad: Of course the Americans even weaponized jazz,🤧. Still nice video. Meitner ma1 v2 dac, Sovereign preamp and power amp, DIY speakers, scan speak illuminator. Raal Requisite VM-1a -> SR-1a with Accurate Sound convolution. Under development: NUC7i7dnbe, Euphony Stylus, Qobuz. Modded Buffalo-fiber-EtherRegen, DC3- Isoregen, Lush^2 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I've used the term white-bread to describe a certain audiophile Scandahoovian jazz recording. Maybe Brubeck is white-bread, but it is fortified with vitamins, minerals, and time changes Link to comment
mansr Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: I've used the term white-bread to describe a certain audiophile Scandahoovian jazz recording. Maybe Brubeck is white-bread, but it is fortified with vitamins, minerals, and time changes IIRC, Take Five is one of the tracks on that recording you so despise. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 despise is too white-bread as a term Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Check out the 2 CD set of the Dave Brubeck Quartet with Gerry Mulligan Live at the Berlin and tell me if that sounds white bread to you. Some damn good blues piano on that one. kumakuma 1 Link to comment
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