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1 hour ago, jabbr said:

then it’s hard to that the rest seriously

 

If they think 90 billion is bad, wait'll they learn about all the virtual particles tunneling through them infinitely more often than that.

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1 hour ago, Arpiben said:

 

Not interesting in terms of bandwidth/throughput. Save your money for auctions dealing with frequencies above 80 GHz  😉 

 

Folks in Dane, Wisconsin apparently like it for some reason (if you read the linked article).

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11 minutes ago, bluesman said:

 

And if the 28G spectrum brings $10+ million in Wisconsin, imagine what they'll get for 20-20K in New York! 

 

For *exclusive* control/licensing rights?  😆

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4 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

Doctors now suggest not taking antibiotics as much because we have LEARNED that doing so was causing side effects that we did not want. So we adjusted our thinking and moved forward. If you expect Doctors or "science" to know everything and assume these contradictions are proof of the lack of efficacy of "science" then I really don't know how to help you.

 

Also, details matter: Antibiotics are prescribed less often, for good reason, but I believe when prescribed the course should be completed, for the same reason. (In each case, the reason is to avoid creating the conditions that favor evolution of antibiotic-resistant bacteria.)

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8 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

 

Antibiotics are prescribed less often, although I think we still have a long way to go both prescribing less, and educating parents why, but there is no proof that taking the antibiotics to the end does anything and may in fact help breed the resistant bugs. Of course, you can probably find 100 studies from each side of that debate, but this is where I am on it. The only reason I would tell someone to take them all is to be sure they kill the bug rather than stop taking them too early and stay sick longer than they have to.

 

 

I suppose the general idea on one side of the question is to try to kill as many pathogens as possible even after symptoms are gone, lowering chances there will be some left with higher drug resistance to reproduce.  The general idea on the other side I suppose is that you've got a huge number of bacteria in your system at all times; they can interchange DNA; so why breed drug resistance into any part of that population?

 

This is when you get good scientific questions, when there are logical, factually supported arguments for multiple courses of action.

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14 minutes ago, mansr said:

I recall hearing somewhere that one reason for completing an antibiotics course even after symptoms have subsided is to ensure the infection is thoroughly defeated and doesn't come back.

 

The bacteria left to reestablish the infection would be the ones with some degree of antibiotic resistance, so two aspects of the same thing.

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On our little OT journey here (thank you to @Axial for permitting us to take it), ouch (have a look under Conclusions in the abstract): https://www.bmj.com/content/364/bmj.k5092

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12 minutes ago, wgscott said:

 

Apparently that happened awhile ago.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10388

 

 

 

Love this.

 

But of course it would have had to - why is this surprising (though perhaps this paper wasn't aimed at saying that)?  Unless you were Barbara McClintock in later years or James A. Shapiro, you aren't pushing for bacteria as little smock-wearing chemists with the group intelligence to know what direction to evolve in.  So something similar to the current ability to evolve antibiotic resistance would have to exist in bacterial genomes already (perhaps as a defense against natural fungal antibiotics?).

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7 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

Next time someone says evolution isn't a thing, bring up drug resistant bacteria...

 

Happened so often they've got a canned reply. It proves "evolution" only happens when a higher intelligence is acting.

 

Yeah, that's really said, and actually believed.

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42 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

yeah, I quoted this once, I am doing it again.

 

To me this makes their god small and just like them. God (big G)  is capable of creating a system that evolves within the set of parameters that science is trying to make sense of. I have no idea why anyone would think that if a being as powerful as God exists any of this is beyond his control, or that he needs to be making quadrillions of decisions every second of every day for every atom on earth. Who would want that responsibility? Also, it goes against free will. You either have it or you don't. If Gods making the decisions you don't. If you have free will, he isn't. Take your pick and stick with it.

 

ok, evangelical christian rant over.

 

Yeah, why no one ever thinks through to the self-contradiction (intelligent design relies on evolution being impossible, but what's impossible for an omniscient, omnipotent deity?), I don't know.

 

The other aspect of this is that fundamentally non-deterministic physics (quantum mechanics) is an odd way to run a universe for a deity who supposedly envisioned humans when he was sticking little outboard motors on bacteria's behinds.

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5 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

Probably Huawei 5G cellular nodes...

 

LOL

 

kidding, a line of sight, directed energy radio transmission, meaning its beamed straight at the other drone, not broadcast in every direction. They can even allegedly break up the workload amongst each other.

 

Could be more sophisticated. A friend developed a radar system for the DoD and adapted it to cancer treatment (for which he has a patent), and it seems to me it might be adapted to drone or other communication as well. It effectively hides the location the transmission is coming from.

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6 minutes ago, Jud said:

 

@AudioDoctor, if you know any oncologists who would be interested, here's the plain English in a nutshell: Some chemotherapy requires heat activation.  If you send infrared toward the tumor location from outside the body, the tissue along the path to the tumor is heated too - not good.  What this does is use multiple beams so they interfere and combine in a way that only heats the tissue at the tumor location itself.

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4 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

Can I use this tech to heat the inside of my microwaved meals once and for all versus cooking the outside and having a frozen center?  Tell your friend he has a whole new market to open up!

 

https://www.brava.com/

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Lest there be confusion, the Brava ($1000) and the pizza oven are two distinct products.

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29 minutes ago, wgscott said:

My kid put foil in it and it burst into flames.

 

Try Peeps.

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7 hours ago, Allan F said:

 

It's far more satisfying to learn the basics of cooking and the results are likely be a lot better too. A good meat thermometer at a small fraction of the cost is your friend. :)

 

You know this because you've tried the Brava? That spending twice as long waiting for your food to come from the oven is "far more satisfying"?

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The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein

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On 1/27/2019 at 8:56 PM, wgscott said:

 

Apparently that happened awhile ago.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10388

 

 

 

On 1/27/2019 at 10:01 PM, AudioDoctor said:

 

Next time someone says evolution isn't a thing, bring up drug resistant bacteria...

 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/09/stunning-videos-of-evolution-in-action/499136/

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/unprecedentedly-thorough-evolution-experiment/581521/

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The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein

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