Lies about vinyl vs digital

[kumakuma]

Let's not forget the ability to use for self-defense in the event of a zombie apocalypse

 

 

[kumakuma]

On July 21, 2018 at 8:11 PM, GUTB said:

 

I just wanted to thank you for alerting me to the existence of this great album. I had to import it in from Europe but it's exceptionally good-sounding CD. I've ordered a few more of these Turtle Records releases.

 

You can also find DSD versions of Turtle Records releases here:

 

https://turtlerecords.nativedsd.com

[kumakuma]

17 minutes ago, GUTB said:

 

Wow good find.

 

I also like Tony Overwater's albums on Turtle Records such as OP and Up Close.

 

BTW, this site is a great way to find out what's available in HR:

 

http://www.findhdmusic.com 

 

You might also like some of the albums available from Sound Liaison:

 

https://www.soundliaison.com

 

 

[kumakuma]

1 hour ago, semente said:

 

The problem I have with these audiophile lables is that I can't find anything worth listening to in their catalogues. In fact most music reminds me of overly-loud boring demos at hi-fi shows...

　

I find it to be hit and miss but there are some gems out there.

 

A few that come immediately to mind:

 

https://www.soundliaison.com/index.php/352-ruud-breuls-simon-rigter-quintet-wild-man-blues

http://www.hdtracks.com/sessions-from-the-17th-ward-binaural-281216

http://www.hdtracks.com/stripped-322590

http://www.hdtracks.com/binaural/wall-down-home-blues

 

 

 

[kumakuma]

31 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 

This does not work when I try to Download .mp3s. Download is non responsive and I am only presented with a player and a crude graph.

 

 

Try clicking on the three dots in the upper right and then select "Download".

 

[kumakuma]

38 minutes ago, The_K-Man said:

 

Repeat 1,000 times:

 

MP3 AND YOUTUBE DO NOT CAUSE DYNAMIC COMPRESSION

MP3 AND YOUTUBE DO NOT CAUSE DYNAMIC COMPRESSION

MP3 AND YOUTUBE DO NOT CAUSE DYNAMIC COMPRESSION

MP3 AND YOUTUBE DO NOT CAUSE DYNAMIC COMPRESSION

MP3 AND YOUTUBE DO NOT CAUSE DYNAMIC COMPRESSION

MP3 AND YOUTUBE DO NOT CAUSE DYNAMIC COMPRESSION!!!!!

 

What is dynamic compression?

[kumakuma]

13 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 

 Please stop polluting this thread with insulting comments .

 

 

Alex, are you claiming salvage rights on this thread?

 

You should have a good claim as the OP appears to be abandoned it... and this forum with his last visit on Christmas of last year. 

 

👺

[kumakuma]

13 minutes ago, The_K-Man said:

 

Compressed - dynamic range or file size?

 

Obvious from the context.

[kumakuma]

23 minutes ago, KingRex said:

You all have completely bummed me out.   I am even being told the PS to the devices burning a CD to my HD affect the sound quality.  This all leads me to ask, how do I find good downloads that are actually handled correct in the mastering of the original to a digital format.  How do I set up my equipment to accept a transfer of the media over the internet to my house and storage drives at my place.

 

The biggest issue is where are the good masters?  It sound like even MFSL has high res that may not be all the good.  Just poor masters that have been up-sampled.   Is there a thread on what are the best digital master files to purchase?

 

 

The ideas in the first paragraph are held by very few people and can be safely ignored. 

 

When it comes to downloads from the big labels, the releases sold by the various outlets (HDTracks, ProStudio Masters, etc.) are all the same and originate from the labels themselves.

 

If you want good sounding downloads from other sources, I suggest the following sources:

 

https://www.soundliaison.com

http://www.chesky.com/content/binaural-series

https://www.nativedsd.com

 

I don't agree with the comments about MFSL. Most MFSL releases that I've heard are pretty good. Unfortunately, high resolution downloads aren't available. The best you can do is rip their SACD releases.

 

[kumakuma]

36 minutes ago, KingRex said:

Thanks, I have been looking to obtain some high res files and been unsure where to really look.  I seem to have gathered about 1910 CD to burn over the past few year.

 

Advise using software that supports the AccurateRip database to rip your CDs:

 

http://www.accuraterip.com/software.htm

[kumakuma]

2 minutes ago, semente said:

 

The unfortunate problem with (most) audiophile labels is, and has long been, that they record a lot of music and/or performances that nobody really wants to listen to (or would learn about if it weren't for audioshows and hifi magazines).

 

I've found a lot of "audiophile" releases that I really like.

 

Some not so much.

 

For example, I haven't found anything by David Chesky himself that stands up to repeated listening. Some of the other releases in Chesky's binaural+ series are great though.

 

[kumakuma]

2 minutes ago, mansr said:

One person, to be exact.

 

I was trying to be diplomatic. 👺

[kumakuma]

1 hour ago, mansr said:

They have made some good recordings, though I wish they'd dial back the signature Chesky sound a little.

 

How music sounds no longer matters to me.

 

Using Frank's techniques, I'm now able to peer directly into the souls of the performers themselves.

[kumakuma]

5 minutes ago, mansr said:

Are those the ones with the tape measure?

 

No, those came later: 

 

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/new-methods-for-quantifying-sonic-performance/

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/new-methods-for-quantifying-sonic-performance-part-two/

[kumakuma]

13 minutes ago, lucretius said:

 

Why zip the files in the first place?

 

Some people believe that digital files lose quality when sent over the Internet and putting them in a zip container prevents this from happening.

[kumakuma]

Just now, lucretius said:

 

Thanks.  First time I've heard that.

 

It's complete BS, of course.

[kumakuma]

21 minutes ago, Paul R said:

 

Don’t be dissapointed if they all sound the same however. They probably will on any modern system. 

 

 

Especially if you are using a player like JRiver that loads the entire track into memory before playback.

[kumakuma]

7 hours ago, mansr said:

Lower risk of damage from random data corruption. Hell, if you compress the files, you can even store two copies for extra safety.

 

Wouldn't an additional advantage be the fact that the FLAC format has a built-in checksum?

 

Of course, this is only important if you "believe in checksums". 👺

[kumakuma]

20 minutes ago, lucretius said:

 

Is there a setting for that?  JRiver plays files immediately in my setup.

 

Here's where it lives in JRMC 22.

 

Tools > Options > Audio > Settings > Memory playback

 

[kumakuma]

5 minutes ago, mansr said:

The rest of us are in the real world.

 

My granny could have hit that pitch. 👺

[kumakuma]

1 hour ago, The_K-Man said:

 

I deal with the general public, who most think MP3 and other lossy/lossless perceptual codecs compress the sound dynamically.  THAT's the real world.

 

I seek to reduce that confusion.

 

I don't believe there is such a thing as a "lossless perceptual codec". 

 

I also don't think the "general public" has the faintest idea what dynamic compression is.

[kumakuma]

1 minute ago, lucretius said:

 

I think the "perceptual" is a reference to MQA -- which Bob says is perceptually lossless.

 

If so, The K-Man has been drinking the Kool-Aid.

 

 

 

[kumakuma]

11 minutes ago, sandyk said:

Paul

 If you are using my saved files you will be almost certainly be  wasting your time as they are obviously degraded in comparison with my original files

 

Alex

 

We always forget about Digital Generation Loss. 👺

[kumakuma]

2 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 

 At the dawn of CD, many collectors sought out the original Japan and West Germany discs because they sounded better than the locally pressed copies which were made using multi generation copies.

 

I believe what they were talking about was the creation of stampers which is done through a physical (analog) process.

[kumakuma]

2 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 

The data checksums of the discs were STILL the same unless the local version had been edited.

 

 

Irrelevant to what we are taking about.

 

Remember what Barry D said about CDs from different plants sounding different when played on a CD player but the differences disappearing when the CDs are ripped.