ISO Regen performance Improvement Cheap!

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12 minutes ago, logicsound said:

33 minutes ago, elcorso said:

 

 

In other forums the discussions end different ... !!!

 

http://forum.accurateshooter.com

 

Roch

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What's that supposed to mean?  That disagreements should end in gun violence?  

 

Dude - after recent events, after that post you should be summarily banned here...

What the heck has CA come to?

 

There are worse ways for a conflict to end than either banning or leaving. Banning is entirely CC,s prerogative as is his moderation style. In the past I have recommended greater moderation and was voted down by CA members. It was also suggested by some I go elsewhere. NOT by CC I should quickly add.

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15 minutes ago, logicsound said:

I just spoke with my attorney - it seems that CA and CC could be held accountable for allowing this kind of slander, malicious personal attacks, and now concealed threats of violence.

 

Not what Audio should be about...thread bullies who act like they run the place.

 

Disgusting place

 

Too far !

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5 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

 

If you have an attorney, and if they are telling you that the site hosting the discussion forum can successfully be sued for what members of the forum say on it, then you might want to consider consulting with another attorney.

 

If you were to sue CA for "allowing slander," it wouldn't be a question of whether or not you'd win. The only questions would be whether you'd lose via dismissal of the claim, or whether you'd lose by a judge's ruling prior to a jury trial - and whether or not you'd merely lose, or lose and be forced to pay CA's legal fees as well.

 

Also worth noting that your attorney would get their hourly billables regardless of what happened.

 

I would just add "allegedly" allowing slander.

 

Also the "concealed threats of violence" is simply misconstrued. If this relates to @elcorso post, the worst you could sue him for is his taste in humour, which I happen to share!

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8 minutes ago, logicsound said:

Trust me Zuckerberg's ass is pucked!

https://www.fastcompany.com/40577794/google-and-facebook-are-already-accused-of-breaking-gdpr-laws

 

CC started a post on GDPR. Maybe post relevant thoughts there.

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17 minutes ago, logicsound said:

You disgusting folks can accept gun violence and the recent events as perfectly OK to joke about - but I find it abhorrent for an audio site.

 

 

Time for a cup of tea and regroup.

 

Nobody has said anything about the acceptance of gun violence. As @elcorso pointed out it was irony, obviously lost on you, and he is against gun violence. Edit: so am I. So chill, we agree on this point.

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42 minutes ago, lmitche said:

Hi Chris,

 

I would like to recommend that this thread be deleted. Short off that, it should be moved out of the Uptone sponsored section into the general topic section.  This discussion has little to do with the Uptone Audio Regen. I am sure Alex would be delighted with either solution.

 

Many thanks for your consideration.

 

Larry

 

I'm still reading it, so a No vote for deletion.

(I skip the 'hot' bits)

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3 hours ago, JohnSwenson said:

It's going to be awhile before I can work on this. I have a whole bunch of high priority tasks right now and my wife has said I have to cut down on the number of tasks at the same time, I have been so stressed out over things my health is starting to suffer and I'm making bad decisions.

 

So until some of the other stuff gets finished I won't be able to add anything new to the task list. I'm still doing the little PC board for the Philmore adapter (that is going out tomorrow) which will make putting together test cables a lot easier, but that is about it right now.

 

John S.

 

All of us  need a break from the pressure some time, even more so if we care about what we do. I like to say, turn the what ifs into so whats. The only thing that really matters is family and friends. Even then, put the oxygen mask on yourself first as the airline hostess says, then your family. We will all be here when you're good and ready.

Cheers

David

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11 hours ago, mansr said:

The intersection if people with scopes and people with fancy cables is rather small.

 

They need to get higher paying jobs to afford those fancy cables ?

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42 minutes ago, mansr said:

Why don't you tell us ?

 

Noooooooooooooo!

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On 6/8/2018 at 2:48 AM, Quadman said:

The whole stage starts 3 feet behind my speakers

 

On 6/8/2018 at 1:51 PM, sandyk said:

Does the soundstage also extend to the listening position, and even behind it with suitable material  ?

 

 

11 hours ago, sandyk said:

 

 Normally the sound will at least come from in line with, or a little in front of the speakers.

 

 

10 hours ago, mansr said:

That depends almost entirely on the room and speaker placement.

 

My understanding is that soundstaging, where the image is on the soundstage, is determined by the recording. The quality and qualities of the image is determined by the room/speaker interaction. Eg Omnidirectional speakers in a highly reflective room produces huge images locked between the speakers. The more common directional speakers produce more focused  realistically sized images, provided room early reflections are absorbed.

 

My experience is that images are placed mostly at the level of the speakers and extend backwards (depth). That said it can occur that the vocal in some recordings push out a bit forward of the speakers. This might be in recordings that have some midrange "presence" boost in the Eq.  Barry Diament explained that sometimes the latter occurs due to direct and reflected sound combining in an untreated recording booth causing a dip in midrange and the engineer compensating by (unnecessarily) boosting same. When played back it sounds brighter and edgier than it should. He didn't mention pushing the image forwards but I guess that may be a feasible illusion/consequence. It may also explain why some gear sounds more aggressive than others, say if they are emphasizing the mids that seem to be jumping out at you rather than drawing you in.

 

Yeh I have recordings where sound circles around the room. A neat illusion done with tricky phase manipulations in the recording so I am told IIRC

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1 hour ago, mansr said:

Yeah, you can't do that with plain microphones.

 

Yeah it's those tricky engineers that do it, well not so tricky if those engineers understand physics as the good ones do

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10 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 But not starting at 3 feet behind the speakers , and going further back.

In many rooms the speakers will not even be 3 feet from the rear walls and such a system will compress the soundstage.

 

 

Exactly.

I suppose there may be recordings engineered that way the same as there are recordings that have sounds circling the room. However if many/most recordings start 3' behind the plane of the drivers I would describe it as "recessed".

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3 minutes ago, jabbr said:

The world is a very bizarre place when a DC power cable between an UpTone LPS1 and ISO Regen affects soundstage!!! Are we still talking about that?. @Superdad I ain’t goin’ to start ABXing pieces of copper wire ???

 

hey, what have you got against bizarre places

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31 minutes ago, sandyk said:

2 hours ago, fas42 said:

When a system is working well, the amount of HF is irrelevant

Frank

 Perhaps in your system, but not in most other people's systems.

 

 

Not in anyone's system !?

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3 minutes ago, fas42 said:

This album, and this track, is a good test item for treble behaviour - the cymbals are going full bore, throughout ... how does this hold up?

 

 

 

There is a certain affinity for Turkish women at the bath but nothing to do with the cymbals !

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I wonder if  @Quadman only listens to one connected speaker, where does the sound start, at the speaker or behind. Depth can be produced in mono recordings

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4 hours ago, Superdad said:

Smoking them?  Dang, all these years I've been eating them!  

 

Yeah, ingestion problems can be a bitch!

 

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26 minutes ago, jabbr said:

 

It is very well known that the effect of psylocybin on human spatial and time perception (soundstage) is drastically higher than that of power cables.

 

Both are highly subjective. Psylocybin is much more effective and has a known mechanism of action beyond placebo. 

 

Psylocybin Hallucination beats placebo any day. Placebo is just an hallucination that isn't really there !?

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1 hour ago, Ralf11 said:

I think she's on MQA

 

She just needs to pee !

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7 minutes ago, jabbr said:

Not for me, I am personally concerned with understanding what affects audio quality/SQ, and when reasonable physical explanations are lacking, the fact that higher cortical function is a powerful modulator of sensation, remains.

 

"when reasonable physical explanations are lacking, the fact that higher cortical function is a powerful modulator of sensation, remains."

I think we are dealing with two facts in that proposed scenario:

1) Physical explanations are lacking

2) cortical function is a powerful modulator of sensation

The conclusions drawn from those premises seem to be wildly different depending on one's belief system.

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15 minutes ago, RamDawg said:

Troll

 

Funny, I didn't even make my stance known, merely pointed out there are different perspectives possible.

 

Edit- Oh, I get it now, I just browsed up through the thread, everybody is a troll for you if they disagree with you, even if you misconstrue what they are saying.

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10 minutes ago, RamDawg said:

Experiment with the various inexpensive DC ethernet cables first then your perspective will be legitimate. That's all. Trolls are ones who've not yet done so, put their 2 cents in and make assumptions based on no experience.  

 

You are quite clueless.

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2 minutes ago, lmitche said:

Are we having fun now?

 

Lol

 

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5 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

nonetheless, even those who were educated or inculcated in a liberal art, and shielded form all scientific knowledge in college should ask, and not be so dogmatic

 

Perhaps our artists just have not had all imagination "inculcated" out of them in favor of a doctrinaire of reductionist physicalism that seems to be "inculcated" into many applied sciences. It is worth noting here that Imagination is no more synonymous with magic or illusion any more than mechanistic reductionist fragmentation necessarily loses itself into itself becoming nothingness. Both approaches IMO can lead you astray. Just that without imagination, there would be little by way of new discovery.

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Asimov also said "the most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds the most discoveries, is not Eureka! (I found it!) but 'That's funny...WTF!"

I think I may have added the WTF part.