MQA is Vaporware

[lucretius]

On 2/21/2018 at 4:50 PM, Indydan said:

MQA "enthusiast"                        Reason for no longer posting on CA

Peter Veth                                                          BANNED

WitchDoctor                                                      BANNED

Lee Scoggins                             SCARED of his BS being called             

out

Michael Lavorgna                    BANNED for telling someone to go fuck his mother

Peter Veth (as Peter Markus)  BANNED for acting like a dick and being an MQA shill

 

Ah!  A CA twit list.  Shouldn't this be a sticky?

[lucretius]

1 hour ago, Rt66indierock said:

At 31 March 2016 the investment was valued at € 25 million. It will be interesting to see how MQA Ltd is valued at 31 March 2019 by Reinet.

 

I guess it won't hit zero until the contracts expire.

[lucretius]

11 hours ago, firedog said:

Even when the original is analog, the LP is generally mastered from a digital source, not a tape. 

 

I don't doubt this but I am curious as to the reasons why the analog source (tape) would not be used to master the LP.  Is it so that the sound engineer(s) can take advantage of the DSP processing that exists?

[lucretius]

2 hours ago, mansr said:

I have plenty of personal experience with the physics of reality.

All roads lead back to the observer.

[lucretius]

On 12/8/2018 at 1:58 PM, crenca said:

What Teddy and Lee Scoggins do for a living is just use words in a technobabble way to obscure, not to actually explain.  whether Lee Scoggins actually understands what "transducer" is or does is irrelevant - his whole participation in this thread, at the @The Computer AudiophileMQA seminar - indeed his whole "professional" participation in this hobby has this character of using words and not actually meaning anything at all.

 

I too am not sure that Lee actually understands the technobabble.

[lucretius]

2 hours ago, Jud said:

 

They were unlucky enough to have a team assigned to Enron, the scam energy company, and further unlucky enough that those in charge of the team thought they ought to protect the scammers rather than perform a true audit.

 

As is usual with these things, since Andersen was a prime source of money for those defrauded by Enron with the help of Andersen accountants, the entire 80,000-person firm was way downsized, and changed from primarily an accounting firm to a consultancy.  (My brother worked for a subsidiary as a retail consultant, but lost his job in the downsizing.)

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen

 

[lucretius]

27 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Not totally autonomous Andersen Consulting owed Arthur  Andersen 15% of its profits during that time.

 Part of the pyramid scheme ☺️

[lucretius]

7 hours ago, Paul R said:

 I do think everyone should know vi, but that is an unpopular viewpoint. 😁

 

There's no way I'm ever going to pickup on vi or emacs ever again. No way, no how. Thanks, anyway.

[lucretius]

On 3/20/2019 at 1:26 PM, Paul R said:

On 3/20/2019 at 12:34 PM, mansr said:

They did that to clone the platform itself. IBM never had a problem with anyone writing software or making add-on cards for their PCs. 

 

On 3/20/2019 at 1:26 PM, Paul R said:

Oh, yes they did. Look up the history of Hercules video cards, and how they were strangled by IBM until the clone BIOS came out

 

And what about Micro Channel Architecture and IBM's anti-clone practices?

[lucretius]

On 3/22/2019 at 5:45 PM, Rt66indierock said:

 

Wouldn't it be more fun to politely ask questions they can't answer?

 

The problem is they will answer -- in non-technical gobbledygook, you know the kind that Lee Scoggins will repeat ad nauseum.

[lucretius]

2 hours ago, mansr said:

I find that figure extremely dubious. Even on this forum, most people don't even know how to do that. The percentage of the general population with both the skill and the inclination to waste their time ripping streamed music is likely to be extremely low.

 

As far as skill goes, it only takes a quick google search, LOL.

[lucretius]

1 hour ago, Jud said:

 

High speed Internet is the #1 reason I want high speed Internet.

 

I remember waiting 20 minutes in a coffee shop for the Hubble "Pillars" image to download over a 14.4k modem.  Not fun.

 

But do you really need speeds over 1 gbps?

[lucretius]

1 minute ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

Yes!  It makes cloud storage totally viable for the home, among many other things.  And I want 1Gb/sec each way!

 

25 Mbps is likely enough for that. Or 50 Mbps. And as far as streaming goes, it's usually the servers' bitrate that is the bottleneck, not your internet speed.  In any case, I got 1 gbps and it was cheaper than my previous 50 Mbps; one of the benefits of switching providers regularly.

 

 

 

 

[lucretius]

29 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Actually the green light says something different  according to Bob.  

 

Yes but apparently it varies among DACs.

[lucretius]

2 hours ago, Paul R said:

And what they want to know is if this mysterious "computer music" can be made to sound like their turntable and 1977 Pioneer SX70.

 

Make that a Pioneer SX-750.

[lucretius]

28 minutes ago, Allan F said:

Not to mention that the environment doesn't really affect the quality of a TV picture very much - stores virtually always have units set at maximum brightness to attract attention. <snip>

 

And it's not just the stores; TVs come from the factory with red push.

[lucretius]

4 hours ago, miguelito said:

2- Bandwidth is a non-issue

 

I keep hearing that. That may be true at home and maybe even at the office.  But what about the shopping mall,  the coffee shop, airports, public buildings, schools, etc.? The bandwidth can be pretty bad.

[lucretius]

2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

It can also be pretty good at all of those.. 

 

Sure. But not where I live. 

[lucretius]

3 hours ago, mansr said:

My 4G phone usually gets 100-200 Mbps in populated areas.

 

My mobile network is (usually) good but data is not unlimited. I was talking about wi-fi.

[lucretius]

6 minutes ago, mansr said:

There are unlimited data plans, should you require them.

 

Not where I live. 😒 Unlimited Data is still a rare service to find in Canada and only offered by fringe brands (limited network coverage and/or slow speeds) that seek to differentiate themselves.

[lucretius]

36 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

losslessly compressed redbook is the obvious audiophile choice if possible, because it's lossless and uses less bandwidth than high-res or MQA.

 

How much size difference will there be between a compressed 24/48 file and a compressed 16/44.1 file?

 

 

36 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

If high-res is desired, and somehow possible, in a lower-bandwidth situation, then 24/48 FLAC still is more feasible than MQA.

 

I'm not following here.  The MQA on Tidal is either a from a 24/48 file or from a 24/44.1 file.

 

 

[lucretius]

13 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

Many remasters are louder which makes them sound better to most audiophiles and other music lovers. Another thing frequently done in a remaster is to add space between the musicians. Audiophiles seem to like the added “air” more than other music lovers.

 

 

Raising the peak to just under 0.0 dBFS is fine but increasing the perceived loudness by compressing the dynamic range is not OK with audiophiles.

[lucretius]

54 minutes ago, crenca said:

 

I forgot the numbers, but 24/48(or 44.1) PCM compresses to a smaller file than MQA anything...

How is that? A 24/48 PCM file compresses just the same as a 24/48 MQA file.

[lucretius]

2 hours ago, Sonicularity said:

 

Yes, that is technically correct, but an 18-bit PCM file could contain as much or more musical data than a decoded 24-bit MQA file.  Why not use PCM and save the rain forests?  

 

I agree.  But in the end, Bob Stuart's argument is about psychoacoustics; however, as far as I'm concerned, he has not made a compelling case.

[lucretius]

2 hours ago, crenca said:

 

 

Is it?  I thought MQA is not nearly as compressible (i.e. non-lossy, FLAC, etc.) as the 24/48...due to the folded HF being non conducive to compression...going from memory here

 

edit:  see #3 and 4 in the last section here:  https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/55970-mqa-technically-exposed/

because of this preexisting compression, FLAC is simply not as effective and so MQA is a 'tweener' in size (i.e. between 24/48 and 24/96 PCM)

 

 

MQA is not a file format nor a compression scheme.  All MQA does is play with the bits.  An MQA'd track can exist in any lossless file format you choose.  If it be a flac file with compression, then the compression scheme will not be partial to whether there are any "MQA" bits or not.