toast Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Jimmypowder, thanks for the heads up on the Gungnir MB DAC. I have been reading all I can on the R2R DAC emplimentation these passed few Days. Please keep us informed and share any further thoughts comparing this DAC to the 2Qute. 2 Ch stereo Auralic Aries>Wireworld AES>Kitsune Holo Spring DAC L3>Van Den Hul-The Second balance cable>Sonic Euphoria (fully balance autoformer)>Van Den Hul-The Second balance cable>D-Sonic M3-1200S-A (Anaview AMS1000-2600)>Synergistic Tesla Accelerator cable>Ohm 3000 speakers plus Omni Harmonizer super tweeter Link to comment
JHG Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Jimmypowder, thanks for the heads up on the Gungnir MB DAC. I have been reading all I can on the R2R DAC emplimentation these passed few Days. Please keep us informed and share any further thoughts comparing this DAC to the 2Qute. +1 Link to comment
dav1dd Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 My review will be out in a couple weeks. I own the Hugo and the Qute EX and have reviewed or commented heavily on both. Hi - Are you still doing a review? Link to comment
toast Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I have been waiting for ted_b 2Qute review for months, I think anything he has to say now is all old news. 2 Ch stereo Auralic Aries>Wireworld AES>Kitsune Holo Spring DAC L3>Van Den Hul-The Second balance cable>Sonic Euphoria (fully balance autoformer)>Van Den Hul-The Second balance cable>D-Sonic M3-1200S-A (Anaview AMS1000-2600)>Synergistic Tesla Accelerator cable>Ohm 3000 speakers plus Omni Harmonizer super tweeter Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 2qute vs MB Gungnir Very close match in terms of overall quality. Bass ,Soundstage slightly better with the Gungnir Gungnir slightly better , not as harsh on the treble ,high frequencies . 2qute seems to have better rhythm ,flow . Both sound pretty natural Both are terrific dacs and one could not go wrong with either . 2qute can play DSD and is much smaller . Gungnir is 500 dollars cheaper appx. The 2qute is more broken in than the Gungnir. Link to comment
holzmann Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 2qute vs MB Gungnir Very close match in terms of overall quality. Bass ,Soundstage slightly better with the Gungnir Gungnir slightly better , not as harsh on the treble ,high frequencies . 2qute seems to have better rhythm ,flow . Both sound pretty natural Both are terrific dacs and one could not go wrong with either . 2qute can play DSD and is much smaller . Gungnir is 500 dollars cheaper appx. The 2qute is more broken in than the Gungnir. Could you please post pics of the two side by side? Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Could you please post pics of the two side by side? Why . You don't believe me ? Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Primaluna >Auralic Aries>Chord 2Qute>Panamax Power Conditioner>MB Gungnir Link to comment
holzmann Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Why . You don't believe me ? Thanks for the pic. I believe you 100%. I just want to see the size difference. I don't care about DSD. I do care about potential re-sale value and here I think the Chord has Schiit beat. Then again saving $500 at the onset is nothing to sneeze about. I also care about which pairs best with NAIM. I have a SuperNait2 IA. Which DAC wins on PRAT? RCA output is good enough for me. I do like the size (and black finish option) of the 2Qute. I also like how the 2Qute doesn't need any sort of trickery wrt the USB input, filtering, etc. So, yeah both seem like great options. If you had to pick just one: which would it be? Which gets sold/returned? Which do you keep? Perhaps audition another week or so and make a decision? Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Thanks for the pic. I believe you 100%. I just want to see the size difference.I don't care about DSD. I do care about potential re-sale value and here I think the Chord has Schiit beat. Then again saving $500 at the onset is nothing to sneeze about. I also care about which pairs best with NAIM. I have a SuperNait2 IA. Which DAC wins on PRAT? RCA output is good enough for me. I do like the size (and black finish option) of the 2Qute. I also like how the 2Qute doesn't need any sort of trickery wrt the USB input, filtering, etc. So, yeah both seem like great options. If you had to pick just one: which would it be? Which gets sold/returned? Which do you keep? Perhaps audition another week or so and make a decision? I really don't know yet . They are very close. The Chord 2qute was way better than the Delta Sigma Gungnir . But the Multibit Gungnir and the 2qute are pretty evenly matched . I have a Yggdrasil coming in soon and will compare that to the 2Qute and MB Gungnir to see if it's worth spending an extra 500 bucks or so over the 2Qute. Link to comment
t_ram Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I have a Yggdrasil coming in soon and will compare that to the 2Qute and MB Gungnir to see if it's worth spending an extra 500 bucks or so over the 2Qute. Excellent! i was just thinking to myself if he could now get a Yggdrasil and see if the price is justifiable over the MB Gungnir. Supposedly the Yggdrasil takes at least 200 hrs to sound near its optimal performance so it'll be interesting if it is as enjoyable out of the box like the MB Gungnir was for you. Thanks for sharing! Sonore microRendu>Lampi L4G5>Herron VTSP 3a r03>Herron M1a monos>Vapor Cirrus Blacks Link to comment
Eric2 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Hi Jimmypowder, If you can, please do report back on the difference s between Yggdrasil & 2Qute. The 2Qute is much cheaper here in the UK but I’m wondering myself whether the Yggdrasil will be worth the extra. Thank you. Link to comment
holzmann Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Yes, please continue to post updates, including more GMB vs. 2Qute comments as they both continue to settle in. Are you doing anything with either to condition the USB input and/or power input? I must say I do love the sense of humor of the Schiit people. And I like that their Schiit is Made in the USA! Link to comment
photonblur Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I have been comparing the 2Q to the Yggy for months. Last wk. I ordered the Yggy. I liked: 1. 5 yr. warranty from US co. 2. overbuilt military grade construction 3. Chris Connaker initial impression 4. 15 day return policy 5. generated more sustained mostly favorable internet buzz 6. now I can buy a Regen and not feel like such an outsider Mildly xenophobic considerations aside, if after 14 yggified days there's no urge to get a norse tree of life facial tattoo I will order the 2Q. pb- Link to comment
Anthro Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 [ATTACH]20770[/ATTACH] Primaluna >Auralic Aries>Chord 2Qute>Panamax Power Conditioner>MB Gungnir What Primaluna do you have there, and do you like it? I am gaining more and more interest in a tube from the Dutch manufacturer. Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-N9005 met Tapatalk Link to comment
Norton Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 I have been comparing the 2Q to the Yggyfor months. Last wk. I ordered the Yggy. I liked: 1. 5 yr. warranty from US co. 2. overbuilt military grade construction 3. Chris Connaker initial impression 4. 15 day return policy 5. generated more sustained mostly favorable internet buzz 6. now I can buy a Regen and not feel like such an outsider Mildly xenophobic considerations aside, if after 14 yggified days there's no urge to get a norse tree of life facial tattoo I will order the 2Q. pb- I'm always curious about how a piece of audio equipment could be said to be "military grade construction" and if that was meaningful, whether it would be a good thing or not.. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I'm always curious about how a piece of audio equipment could be said to be "military grade construction" and if that was meaningful, whether it would be a good thing or not.. There is a term for PCB and electronics, "mil spec" (military specification) that when not referring to equipment actually specified by the military is supposed to describe equipment that could meet military specifications for construction, reliability and performance. I have also heard of "NASA spec." Whether this is truly meaningful these days, someone more familiar with the manufacturing end than I am will have to answer. (I suppose equipment that would still operate after the electromagnetic pulse from a thermonuclear explosion would be pretty resistant to RFI, but is someone really claiming the former?) One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Norton Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 There is a term for PCB and electronics, "mil spec" (military specification) that when not referring to equipment actually specified by the military is supposed to describe equipment that could meet military specifications for construction, reliability and performance. I have also heard of "NASA spec." Whether this is truly meaningful these days, someone more familiar with the manufacturing end than I am will have to answer. (I suppose equipment that would still operate after the electromagnetic pulse from a thermonuclear explosion would be pretty resistant to RFI, but is someone really claiming the former?) I think there's a video of a tank driving over an unscathed Chord DAC64. Not sure whether that makes it Mil Spec -I guess it could be a fairly effective weapon in hand to hand combat though if all else fails... Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 What Primaluna do you have there, and do you like it? I am gaining more and more interest in a tube from the Dutch manufacturer. Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-N9005 met Tapatalk It's the Primaluna Prolougue Premium integrated . I like it quite a bit and it's a superb match with my Kef Ls50 speakers . Link to comment
photonblur Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I'm always curious about how a piece of audio equipment could be said to be "military grade construction" and if that was meaningful, whether it would be a good thing or not.. "military grade construction" Pardon my failed attempt at humor-should have said built like a tank. Also, it is highly improbable that I will get a norse tree of life facial tattoo even if the yggy proves to be spectacular. Of course one never knows, do one. pb- Link to comment
holzmann Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Between the GMB and the 2Q: I would prefer the one that doesn't "need" power/usb conditioning. Might be the 2Q then. I am not in the camp that wants to buy more stuff once I've spent $1250 or $1800 on a piece of equipment. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 "military grade construction" Pardon my failed attempt at humor-should have said built like a tank. The Yggy may be built like a tank, but only Chord have had their construction tested against a tank... PS. not sure if that makes it a better DAC btw :-) Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
Norton Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 "military grade construction" Pardon my failed attempt at humor-should have said built like a tank. I did realise you were being light-hearted', as am I... However as you mention built like a tank: DNM Design Principles, Page 3 of 5 - Materials Technology Link to comment
wisnon Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The Yggy may be built like a tank, but only Chord have had their construction tested against a tank... PS. not sure if that makes it a better DAC btw :-) If it doesnt weigh more than 20 lbs, it CANT be good. LoL. The heavier the better, everybody knows that. hehehehe Link to comment
Jimmypowder Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 If it doesnt weigh more than 20 lbs, it CANT be good. LoL.The heavier the better, everybody knows that. hehehehe I will never buy a dac that weighs under 100 pounds . Link to comment
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