Melvin Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I have to revise my quote above. I initially thought that the 2Qute sounded no different between the wallwort and the Acopian LPS.After listening to the 2Qute with the LPS for several days, I went back to the wallwort and noticed that the bass did not sound as detailed as with the LPS. What I noticed the most was more clarity on bass guitar notes. It wasn't a night and day difference but there was a noticeable difference depending on the track being played. Seems when you reach a certain level of fidelity and synergy with your system this is one of the best ways to evaluate changes (i.e., listen for a time then remove). Nice system al210. Link to comment
ted_b Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Jason, I have but probably failed to report on it. The Hynes and JS-2 are identical on the 2Qute (which Rob Watts says is immune to 3rd party linears; just use the wallwart). Both provide a step up in sq that is less than what the Hynes did on the other Qute series stuff. But either is clearly worthwhile. However, on the exaSound the JS-2 is a better, more fluid and heftier sounding ps than the Hynes. Weird stuff. Thanks for the reminder. I'm am so buried by all this. I should point out, in fairness to the Hynes, that the JS-2 is a much heftier power supply, so no surprise that I would find it beefier or more weight on DACs that are affected. This is really not a slam against the Hynes as much as its a comparison of two very good but very different power supplies. One I bought for $190 used, the other goes for $925 (but is dual rail, as well). I'd compare the JS-2 to my much beefier SR7EHD Hynes but it currently powers my 19V music server. Whether you are talking Paul Hynes or Uptone, you are comparing two extremely well built and well designed power supply options. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
jtwrace Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 One I bought for $190 used, the other goes for $925 (but is dual rail, as well). . If you really want to be fair about it though the SR3 goes for more than $190 new which is what you're comparing to with the $925 price tag of the JS-2. Further, one you can usually get within 45-60 days (JS-2) and the other (Hynes) people have waited literally a year or more. FWIW W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
ted_b Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 If you really want to be fair about it though the SR3 goes for more than $190 new which is what you're comparing to with the $925 price tag of the JS-2. Further, one you can usually get within 45-60 days (JS-2) and the other (Hynes) people have waited literally a year or more. FWIW Yes, you are right about MSRP comparison, more like $500 (one rail) and $925 (two rail). But, in reality, the SR3-12 is available as a used unit and the JS-2 is hardly discounted (why would they). And you and I have already discussed here about availability; I brought it up on the JS-2 thread and you concurred. I think Paul is saying that he is getting his availability issues behind him, but we'll have to see. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
photonman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 USA LPS? Would prefer to avoid shipping/return complicationsfrom Israel and Britain etc. Gotta b black. Budget $400. thanks- pb Channel Island Audio. California. RIG: iFi Zen Stream - Benchmark DAC3 L - LA4 - AHB2 | Paradigm Sig S6 | Cables: anything available Link to comment
DrN Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Those are not 12 volt power supplies. Not black! http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/11392.html System profile Link to comment
photonman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Those are not 12 volt power supplies.Not black! If you email them, they will make you a VDC12 MKII (same price). The silver ones sound better than black anodized anyways! RIG: iFi Zen Stream - Benchmark DAC3 L - LA4 - AHB2 | Paradigm Sig S6 | Cables: anything available Link to comment
DrN Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Really, I didn't know that. Not mentioned anywhere, I would have purchased mine there. No black sounds better........... http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/11392.html System profile Link to comment
photonblur Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Regen/2Qute? Posts from rocky,HumanMedia and Jimmypowder have noted a deterioration of sq. mating the 2Qute and Regen. Absent are the prevalent Regen raves. At best ted_b reports a step up; not as much as other Qute series. The closeness of the usb and rca inputs may pose connection complications that contribute to the spotty performance reports. $ aside, does the limited/non compatibility of Regen/2Qute imply a fault or positive regarding the dac design? pb- Link to comment
ted_b Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Regen/2Qute? At best ted_b reports a step up; not as much as other Qute series. No, my "not as substantial as the other Qutes in the series" was about the replacement of the stock wallwart with a Hynes or other 3rd party quality linear power supply. I have never tried the Regen on another Qute (HD or EX). "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
digitallc Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 My apologies, if this has been answered before. I am thinking of getting the new Mac mini which has USB 3 connections. Should I expect a drop in sound quality with USB 3 vs USB 2 with my 2Qute? - Auralic Aries Mini +SB LPS | Chord 2Qute +SB LPS | Cavalli Audio Liquid Carbon | Sennheiser HD 800 - Apple TV 4 | Oppo BDP 105 | Marantz SR7008 | Polk LSIM 703 | Polk Audio LSiM 704c | Martin Logan Subwoofer | Sony Bravia LCD - Rega Planar 3 | Audiomods Series V micrometer | Dynavector 20X2L | Aurealis Cinemag CM-1254 | Audio Alchemy PPA-1/PS-5 | Parasound Halo P 5 | Parasound Halo A21 | KEF LS50 | Rythmik Servo Subwoofer Link to comment
photonblur Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 No, my "not as substantial as the other Qutes in the series" was about the replacement of the stock wallwart with a Hynes or other 3rd party quality linear power supply. I have never tried the Regen on another Qute (HD or EX). Apologies ted_b. I conflated your post #52 where you discussed installing amber regen powered by JS-2 and powering the 2Qute with a Hynes SR13-12, which you noted was a substantial improvment, with your post #121 which evidently just dealt with the 2Qute stock wallmart replacement. Too many posts for my fading short term memory:) Looking forward to your definitive review. pb- Link to comment
al210 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 My apologies, if this has been answered before. I am thinking of getting the new Mac mini which has USB 3 connections. Should I expect a drop in sound quality with USB 3 vs USB 2 with my 2Qute? I have the newest Mac mini and the 2Qute sounds fabulous with it. The USB 3 ports on the mini are backward compatible with 2.0 so go ahead with it. No drop out using local files and networked with HQ player. Sonictransport i9, DCS Bartok Apex DAC/Streamer REL Acoustics S/510 Sub Woofer Audionet Watt Integrated Amp - Vivid Audio Kaya 45 loudspeakers Link to comment
digitallc Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Thank you for replying. - Auralic Aries Mini +SB LPS | Chord 2Qute +SB LPS | Cavalli Audio Liquid Carbon | Sennheiser HD 800 - Apple TV 4 | Oppo BDP 105 | Marantz SR7008 | Polk LSIM 703 | Polk Audio LSiM 704c | Martin Logan Subwoofer | Sony Bravia LCD - Rega Planar 3 | Audiomods Series V micrometer | Dynavector 20X2L | Aurealis Cinemag CM-1254 | Audio Alchemy PPA-1/PS-5 | Parasound Halo P 5 | Parasound Halo A21 | KEF LS50 | Rythmik Servo Subwoofer Link to comment
barrows Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I find that cymbals are generally one of the hardest instruments for digital to recreate realistically, since too often they are reproduced with an overall graininess instead of wood hitting metal and being able to capture their shimmer and natural decay. I can't wait to hear the upcoming top of the line Chord DAVE, with its designer and advanced technology I expect it to reach an entirely new standard in digital playback. Remember, if you are playing a digital recording, the recording of cymbals itself is going to have the same type of problems (A/D conversion and filtering artifacts) which are generated on playback. So, to get good playback of cymbals on a digital recording, you are going to need avery special recording quality, and/or high res PCM or DSD. SO/ROON/HQPe: DSD 512-Sonore opticalModuleDeluxe-Signature Rendu optical with Well Tempered Clock--DIY DSC-2 DAC with SC Pure Clock--DIY Purifi Amplifier-Focus Audio FS888 speakers-JL E 112 sub-Nordost Tyr USB, DIY EventHorizon AC cables, Iconoclast XLR & speaker cables, Synergistic Purple Fuses, Spacetime system clarifiers. ISOAcoustics Oreas footers. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | Accessories | Software | Link to comment
samwisesam Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 hi would a JRiver ID play ok with the USB input on the 2Qute? I know it is driverless for Android and Apple and has a driver for windows. But I don't think the ID is windows based. Any experience on this? thanks Link to comment
al210 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Just received notice that my Regen shipped. Will be interesting to see if and how much it improves SQ. There have been mixed reports about how effective it is on the 2Qute. Sonictransport i9, DCS Bartok Apex DAC/Streamer REL Acoustics S/510 Sub Woofer Audionet Watt Integrated Amp - Vivid Audio Kaya 45 loudspeakers Link to comment
photonman Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Just received notice that my Regen shipped. Will be interesting to see if and how much it improves SQ. There have been mixed reports about how effective it is on the 2Qute. nice. will be curious to hear your review of the twosome. I have an order for the september regen batch. But in the mean time I am experimenting with using a Teradak U9 LPS for the USB power isolated connection. The 2Qute itself is powered by a Channel Audio LPS. RIG: iFi Zen Stream - Benchmark DAC3 L - LA4 - AHB2 | Paradigm Sig S6 | Cables: anything available Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Just received notice that my Regen shipped. Will be interesting to see if and how much it improves SQ. There have been mixed reports about how effective it is on the 2Qute. There's a chance you may be disappointed if you use the supplied short USB cable. This should be avoided. It seems as though it's only been the people who have been using this short cable that haven't been impressed with the REGEN. johndoe21ro 1 Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
photonman Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 There's a chance you may be disappointed if you use the supplied short USB cable. This should be avoided. It seems as though it's only been the people who have been using this short cable that haven't been impressed with the REGEN. something like this will help us as it will will extend the supplied adapter just enough for us to get past the RCA connectors. It will take up more real estate but we avoid the shorty. I am going to try one. USB Socket Saver, USB B-Male/USB-B Female - UAD027MF RIG: iFi Zen Stream - Benchmark DAC3 L - LA4 - AHB2 | Paradigm Sig S6 | Cables: anything available Link to comment
al210 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 There's a chance you may be disappointed if you use the supplied short USB cable. This should be avoided. It seems as though it's only been the people who have been using this short cable that haven't been impressed with the REGEN. Thanks for for the reminder. something like this will help us as it will will extend the supplied adapter just enough for us to get past the RCA connectors. It will take up more real estate but we avoid the shorty. I am going to try one. USB Socket Saver, USB B-Male/USB-B Female - UAD027MF Thanks for the link. Ordered one up. Sonictransport i9, DCS Bartok Apex DAC/Streamer REL Acoustics S/510 Sub Woofer Audionet Watt Integrated Amp - Vivid Audio Kaya 45 loudspeakers Link to comment
DrN Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Yea I had one in the cart too till I seen $10 shipping on a $4.50 item! http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/11392.html System profile Link to comment
photonman Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I know, they should have charged $100 for the adapter, the same as an audiophile USB cable then it would seem more inline with the prices of our hobby. (haha j/k) But there is a field on the order form where you can request USPS shipping which might be a little cheaper. RIG: iFi Zen Stream - Benchmark DAC3 L - LA4 - AHB2 | Paradigm Sig S6 | Cables: anything available Link to comment
ted_b Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I use this for the 2Qute; it sounds way better than Alex's grey one Amazon.com: Belkin Components 6in USB Ab Device Daisy Chain for USB Hub: Electronics "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
DrN Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Thanks ted. more like it, $4.99 free shipping. Stoooopid place! They don't want small business. http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/11392.html System profile Link to comment
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