So I've had an EtherRegen in rack for 2 weeks...

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5 hours ago, charlesphoto said:

It seems to me that expectation bias that objectivists so bemoan can perhaps work both ways - maybe some don't want to hear improvements just so they can prove a point. I'm not saying the OP is lying, because we all hear differently in our different systems and ears/brains, but it should be recognized bias can be both positive and negative. 

To me, and I am no expert, there is no doubt that expectation bias works both ways.

If you really believe something can’t work, will you hear it?

If you really believe something will work, will you hear it?

It is just from which way you approach the conundrum.

 

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5 hours ago, plissken said:

You shouldn't try and make technical points that you have no ability to defend.

 

The only one who qualified to make technical points about the eR is @JohnSwenson he made the right measurements and engineered accordingly.

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4 minutes ago, mansr said:

Except he didn't make any measurements.

 

That doesn't sound very plausible, engineering a switch and not making any measurements. 

 

 I am looking forward to the publication of his white paper but somehow I have the feeling it will not be enough to satisfy some of us.

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Yawn

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2 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

Find a single white paper that UpTone has published on any product they offer.

I think John is still busy making the last measurements but superdad is releasing some info from it via the ER review from Austinpop.

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10 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

 

Maybe you two should get together and make sure you have your 180 degree stories straight.

Nope both statement are correct 

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5 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

We'll have to agree they are both written in English.

I was talking about the development of ER. 

And 4est about the white paper measurements. 

 

Good morning btw.

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58 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

Here is my main goal and why I shot a video:

 

Did the sound change when I had both cables (port bundle) connected

The 2530 Switch only

The eR Switch only

No connectivity.

 

And the question is: If I can pull both cables out randomly and we still hear audio and it hasn't changed, which is what I'm willing to bet will be the outcome if you can't look, what mechanism is at play here? Since audio is cached and I'm able to randomly swap cables and we know that the sample you are currently listening to was copied over ahead of time how do you know which cable it arrived on?

 

What mechanistic or electrical behaviors or properties are getting stored with the buffered data?

 

I'm not making this a pissing match. I've asked very foundational questions.

Maybe it is not about the buffers but I am not qualified to make such technical point.

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29 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

based on history, it is likely to be completely white

I think “blank” would have been a better word in this sentence.

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Sorry, I am out. This thread is leading nowhere.

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I am wondering why only the Uptone switch, there are more audiophile switches, sotm, melco etc. What has Uptone ever done to you??

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Well maybe because the subjectivist have heard the difference and are enjoying it. 
 

I don’t and most/ all of us do not have the know how or the know why it betters SQ. Maybe we do not care that much because our goals are met. Maybe people do not like to land in discussions they can not explain, we do not have the answers. I certainly hope that John Swenson would release his paper, but respect that he is a busy man so I’ll wait. Until then I’ll enjoy it and with me about 750 or so happy customer’s.
And your and ASR’s campaign is certainly not helping the release of that paper. 

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13 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

I'd prefer to see blinded listening tests however, but I'm a subjectivist.

 

I am sure you have heard about the blind test done by alpha audio? The eR was not one of the contenders but the sotm switch was. I can't find the link but there suppose to be a English version of it. What it proves is that these switches do something or not?

 

What ridicule???? Where?

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6 hours ago, mansr said:

Do you have a link to the Dutch version? I can handle that.

Google: alpha audio switch test. You’ll get hits with that.

 

Goede morgen, mansr heb je goed geslapen met al die wind en regel?

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Plis

4 hours ago, firedog said:

And plissken is saying it is based on expectation bias, not anything the switch does. Anything can be "explained"-that doesn't mean the explanation is correct. You are certainly welcome to enjoy your purchase all you want. Saying it changes SQ is not the same claim as saying your perceived SQ is different when you engage in sighted listening. There's a nice listening impressions thread about the ER. This thread isn't an "impressions" thread, and it seems to me perfectly respectful that Plissken opened a separate thread about his experience and observations. 

 

It is a pity that plissken did make better use of his time with the eR and did a blind test himself. But I doubt that he would have heard the difference because of his objective bias. 

 

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1 hour ago, davide256 said:

I doubt I'd notice the difference if I was using a stock power supply with the NUC. Which is to say that @plissken reported fairly on what he heard within the limitations of what he tested with.  Plisskens Optiplex setup is far more representative of a typical user, vs the audio enthusiast setup I have.

Most people who have bought an eR have audio enthusiast setups and you know the more enthusiastic the setup the better you hear differences. I am trying to choose my words carefully here, I don’t want to offend anyone or put down ones system but yes that could be the case.

 

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I am not an expert, I do not know the components, I am not the one who brought it up. 
Bee nest comes to mind. Bye.

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11 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

I'd put my Statements up against your Maggies any day of any week. I'm a keep it simple sort of guy:

 

Computer<>DAC<>Amp<>Speakers.

No worries plissken, it’s all good. 
I believe Ralf has maggies, I only have diy stuff. Talk to @davide256.

 

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16 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

Me to:

http://speakerdesignworks.com/Statements.html

 

I find it an incredible amount of cheek to throw the stones you are throwing.

Sorry, That was not my intention.

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I just googled “cheek to throw” this came up: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Throw Cheek

 

🤢

 

Sorry I have my English limitations

[RickyV]

whoops.

Again,  I meant no disrespect. Certainly not to diy’ers.

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2 hours ago, plissken said:

 

Me to:

http://speakerdesignworks.com/Statements.html

 

I find it an incredible amount of cheek to throw the stones you are throwing.

What brand of capacitors did you use in your filters?

 

[RickyV]

FYI.

 

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37 minutes ago, davide256 said:

"one mans meat is another mans poison"

Or “ one mansr’s meat is another mansr’s poison” 🤣😂

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Only in jackal and hyde configuration.