I Now Consider The Stereophile Staff Snake Oil Salesmen

[Albrecht]

On 2/17/2018 at 5:15 PM, Brinkman Ship said:

Based on the irrational comments in the "MQA Conceptualized" post, I have

no choice to consider the staff at Stereophile snake oil salesmen.

 

Many here have worked under the delusion that they would start to temper

their support once all the widely available data was examined. Keep dreaming.

 

These excerpts show they have doubled down:

 

"If MQA didn't audibly improve sound quality to our ears, our coverage would be minimal."

Hi, FWIW i share your opinion about MQA, - especially its dangerous and immoral attributes of DRM & Recording industry exploitation of artists. However, - I would be careful about labeling Stereophile as salespeople of any kind, - including "snake-oil." Stereophile is an audio enthusiast magazine that reports on what they define as high performance equipment that is classified as (generally) costing more than $1000 per component. They write and report on gear that they think "sounds good." That doesn't mean that their opinions are right or wrong, or that sometimes they aren't harmful. Think movie reviews. They are at their best when they say, - "if you've loved the original Blade Runner storyline and plot, you are likely not to like the new Blade Runner 2045." I think that it should also be recognized that context is everything. From what I've heard, there have been very few good comparative tests out there. Some of it may be due to the fact that the filter is basically a Meridian sounding filter. In my opinion, - Meridian equipment has always been overly warmed, chocolate sauce.... For me, - the cowardly and greedy position of Meridian in the market is horrible, and adding the icing of muddy sound with their cheap reverb tank called MQA keeps me a million miles away.

[Albrecht]

2 minutes ago, mansr said:

Scientists strive to discover the nature of the universe. Engineers shape it to their liking.

Science was born out of philosophy to discover the nature of reality, Engineers get it wrong hidden away in their lab.

[Spacehound]

3 minutes ago, mansr said:

Scientists strive to discover the nature of the universe. Engineers shape it to their liking.

Not always to mine. Though his Clifton Bridge is nice

[Albrecht]

9 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

Yeah, they only see  the end result.  Get the 'invisible to them' science right and the engineers part is almost  inevitable. 

 

And most people think science is a belief system. It's an UNbelief system.

 

9 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

Yeah, they only see  the end result.  Get the 'invisible to them' science right and the engineers part is almost  inevitable. 

 

And most people think science is a belief system. It's an UNbelief system.

ZACTLY!!!

[Spacehound]

2 minutes ago, Albrecht said:

Science was born out of philosophy to discover the nature of reality, Engineers get it wrong hidden away in their lab.

Thus 'technology', Greek derived. It is  fairly recently we separated  philosophy, art, technology, and engineering.

[Ralf11]

20 minutes ago, mansr said:

Scientists strive to discover the nature of the universe. Engineers shape it to their liking.

 

 

not EEs

 

you are thinking of Quantum Mechanics - in fact, there is an auto repair shop near me by that name

[Spacehound]

2 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

 

not EEs

 

you are thinking of Quantum Mechanics - in fact, there is an auto repair shop near me by that name

Quantums are everywhere now, like sexual abuse.

[Brinkman Ship]

27 minutes ago, Albrecht said:

Hi, FWIW i share your opinion about MQA, - especially its dangerous and immoral attributes of DRM & Recording industry exploitation of artists. However, - I would be careful about labeling Stereophile as salespeople of any kind, - including "snake-oil." Stereophile is an audio enthusiast magazine that reports on what they define as high performance equipment that is classified as (generally) costing more than $1000 per component. They write and report on gear that they think "sounds good." That doesn't mean that their opinions are right or wrong, or that sometimes they aren't harmful. Think movie reviews. They are at their best when they say, - "if you've loved the original Blade Runner storyline and plot, you are likely not to like the new Blade Runner 2045." I think that it should also be recognized that context is everything. From what I've heard, there have been very few good comparative tests out there. Some of it may be due to the fact that the filter is basically a Meridian sounding filter. In my opinion, - Meridian equipment has always been overly warmed, chocolate sauce.... For me, - the cowardly and greedy position of Meridian in the market is horrible, and adding the icing of muddy sound with their cheap reverb tank called MQA keeps me a million miles away.

You make good points, but I stand my my statement.

 

They do exactly what salesmen are trained to do..dismiss legitimate concerns, and create a false reality, and create a need where none exists. They are pushing and endorsing a product that is inferior and is harmful to the consumer.

 

I am talking about their conduct with respect to MQA. It is among the most dishonest and disingenuous episodes in their history.  I don't need to say more.

[mansr]

23 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

not EEs

 

you are thinking of Quantum Mechanics - in fact, there is an auto repair shop near me by that name

My EE education included quantum mechanics. It is essential to semiconductor design.

[Ralf11]

sure - but can you make the entire universe disappear in a quantum event?

 

that's what it takes

[mansr]

5 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

sure - but can you make the entire universe disappear in a quantum event?

Are you sure you want me to try?

[Spacehound]

11 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

sure - but can you make the entire universe disappear in a quantum event?

 

that's what it takes

We did get this unexpected result:

 

 

 

[Ralf11]

[Ralf11]

2 hours ago, mansr said:

Are you sure you want me to try?

 

 

Sure - have at it

[Spacehound]

8 hours ago, mansr said:

My EE education included quantum mechanics. It is essential to semiconductor design.

It wasn't when I was involved. Well, It might have been but we didn't know.

Robins use quantum mechanics for navigation  so 'Jim', that Iranian  professor on TV  says. It's probably  just an Iranian plot  to damage the west.

[Spacehound]

6 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

Your cats are much smaller than ours.  They  are the UK's  biggest predator (look at them claws).   They live in Scotland and mostly eat golden eagles.

[mansr]

3 hours ago, Spacehound said:

It wasn't when I was involved. Well, It might have been but we didn't know.

Modern integrated circuits have features so small that quantum effects must be considered. Then there are devices like the tunnel diode.

[dalethorn]

20 hours ago, kumakuma said:

 

If folks "deliberately withheld information" from me, I would ask myself why.

 

 

Typical nonsense.

[dalethorn]

20 hours ago, Indydan said:

 

Dale, weren’t you banned from Head fi for a while? Isn’t it possible that you are the one who creates friction with others?

 

Every time you show up, the thread goes to shit. Why is that Dale?

 

 

 

You're lying of course, because you have no facts, only personal attacks.

[mansr]

Just now, dalethorn said:

You're lying of course, because you have no facts, only personal attacks.

And what is it that you do?

[dalethorn]

20 hours ago, Indydan said:

 

LOL

 

Aren’t you the guy that on Stereophile, compared himself to great historical figures like Martin Luther King and Ghandi?!

 

Your comment was deleted, or I would have happily provided a link.

 

I scored 153 at Mensa.  And I'm the best friend of civil rights.  Read about it at my website under book reviews.

[dalethorn]

1 minute ago, mansr said:

And what is it that you do?

 

Search for dale thorn.  First hit should be my website.  The software alone is 15 thousand hours of work.

[dalethorn]

18 hours ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

I had to go back and confirm that this Dale Thorn is the same one whose reviews on headphones I have read.  Lots of them.  While I really don't want to add girth to his seemingly immense ego, I have to say dude has lots of interesting things to say about a lot of different headphones.

 

The software on my dalethorn website represents 15 thousand hours of work.  And I also host other things including a fantastic review of racism in western civilization, under Books.  My headphone work is directed at helping people of limited means achieve the best sound they can get.

[mansr]

2 minutes ago, dalethorn said:

Search for dale thorn.  First hit should be my website.  The software alone is 15 thousand hours of work.

I meant what do you call the thing you do to other forum members if not personal attacks? I'm aware of your hobby projects. Very amusing.

[mansr]

7 minutes ago, dalethorn said:

I scored 153 at Mensa.

Oh, a Mensa member. Explains the attitude.