Best CPU for hqplayer

[soundnerdie]

11 hours ago, firedog said:

Hi-

That seems to have a cooling fan on the bottom. Any idea of the db level of the fan?

There are two fans, according to this review. It also has some limited info re noise level.

 

https://www.servethehome.com/minisforum-ms-01-review-the-10gbe-with-pcie-slot-mini-pc-intel/

[camott]

17 hours ago, Miska said:

Case: Fractal Design Define Nano 7

PSU: Seasonic Vertex PX-850 (ATX 3.0 and PCIe 5.0 compliant)

Motherboard: ASRock Z790 PG-ITX/TB4

CPU: Intel i9-14900K

RAM: 64 GB kit of G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6400 CL32

CPU cooler: be quiet! Silent Loop 2 280mm AIO

GPU: PNY RTX A4500

 

I had to make some creative modifications to fit AIO fans between front panel and AIO radiator, I used two ASUS ROG Strix 120mm fans. Bigger case would make this easier build regarding AIO.

 

This can do DSD1024 with poly-sinc-gauss-xla + ASDM7EC-super, stock, without overclocking. Power draw from mains is ~280W while doing this.

 

From what I am gathering from this and other reports, is that it's not yet possible to do ASDM7EC-super at DSD1024 without a GPU or overclocking ... is that correct?

[bogi]

7 hours ago, LoryWiv said:

For those of us who are command-prompt challenged, is a small utility like HWMonitor more accurate in determining GPU loads while CUDA offload is running?

 

I prefer Open Hardware Monitor for this purpose.

 

[LoryWiv]

Thanks @bogi, I'll check it out!✔️

[Miska]

10 hours ago, camott said:

From what I am gathering from this and other reports, is that it's not yet possible to do ASDM7EC-super at DSD1024 without a GPU or overclocking ... is that correct?

 

Seems to be the case yes. ASDM7EC-light works though, for example with E-core pool setting:

 

Or with E-core filter setting:

[camott]

22 minutes ago, Miska said:

Seems to be the case yes. ASDM7EC-light works though, for example with E-core pool setting:

Ok thanks for confirming. Yes I can also do ASDM7EC-light @ DSD1024.

I thought that offloading was only about filters/convolution - what does GPU offloading do vs e-core offloading that frees up the p-cores to modulate ASDM7EC-super @ DSD1024?

[Miska]

2 hours ago, camott said:

Ok thanks for confirming. Yes I can also do ASDM7EC-light @ DSD1024.

I thought that offloading was only about filters/convolution - what does GPU offloading do vs e-core offloading that frees up the p-cores to modulate ASDM7EC-super @ DSD1024?

 

I think GPU offload leaves more TDP and thus boost for the modulator.

 

[Carousel]

Well, my progeny made the mistake of letting their new 4070 Ti be delivered to my hands. It is not a Super, but they got a very good runout deal. Now I can testify that the 4070 Ti will run sinc-long that my 4060 Ti would not. This is with a 14700K. I know you DSD1024 stereo folks won’t be impressed here. But I am happy with the below DSD512 stereo results with sinc-long and ASDM7ECv3. Trying eight-channel sinc-long to DSD256 did not play though. The eight-channel charts below are for sinc-medium to DSD256 with ASDM7ECv3. All again with a 14700K.

 

Based on this, I would expect similar results with a 4070 Super.

 

Question for the experts: To be able to manage sinc-long in eight channels to DSD256, would more GPU help? Or would I need more CPU?

 

Looks like more CPU to me. But maybe there are more ways to offload to the GPU???

 

Sinc-Long ASDM7ECv3 16-44 Stereo to DSD512 Nvidia 4070 Ti

 

Sinc-Long ASDM7ECv3 16-44 Stereo to DSD512 14700K htop

 

Sinc-Medium ASDM7ECv3 24-48 8-Channel to DSD256 Nvidia 4070 Ti

 

Sinc-Medium ASDM7ECv3 24-48 8-Channel to DSD256 14700K htop

 

[Miska]

16 minutes ago, Carousel said:

Question for the experts: To be able to manage sinc-long in eight channels to DSD256, would more GPU help? Or would I need more CPU?

 

If you have full CUDA offload, then more GPU if it doesn't work now. Since it runs completely on GPU.

 

[chipvn]

Hi @Miska.

With the new ecores pool/filter setring, could your passive cooling 13900T run DSD1024x48 with gauss-long/gauss-hires-lp with any Ec modulator (AMSDM7Ec-512fs, ASDM7EC-light, AMSDM7EC-ul) without Cuda offloading?

Thank you.

[Miska]

12 hours ago, chipvn said:

With the new ecores pool/filter setring, could your passive cooling 13900T run DSD1024x48 with gauss-long/gauss-hires-lp with any Ec modulator (AMSDM7Ec-512fs, ASDM7EC-light, AMSDM7EC-ul) without Cuda offloading?

 

These cases for example work with ecores="filter".

 

 

 

 

[chipvn]

3 hours ago, Miska said:

These cases for example work with ecores="filter".

 

Thank you for the update.

Can I understand that the 13900T with ecores="filter" can do from 44.1k to DSD1024 but cannot do 48k to DSD024x48 with those selected filter/modulator?

[Miska]

5 hours ago, chipvn said:

Can I understand that the 13900T with ecores="filter" can do from 44.1k to DSD1024 but cannot do 48k to DSD024x48 with those selected filter/modulator?

 

Those two cases are for 48k x1024 output (49.152 MHz). In this case from 44.1k source which is heavier than doing the same from 48k.

 

[Miska]

Speaking of CPU loads, this is the situation for quite a while when building HQPlayer OS image 😅:

[Carousel]

Beauty!!! But whenever I brought home a math exam result of 100%, my mother always asked why I did not get bonus points for 105%! ;-)

[AudioDoctor]

2 hours ago, Miska said:

Speaking of CPU loads, this is the situation for quite a while when building HQPlayer OS image 😅:

 

Threadripper?

[Miska]

5 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

Threadripper?

 

i9-14900K

 

So 8 HyperThreaded P-cores and 16 E-cores. Total 32 logical CPUs.

 

And I can tell that 280mm AIO cooler is not enough for this case. CPU hits thermal throttling at 100C every now and then. So it would take some more efficient 360mm or 420mm AIO block...

 

[AudioDoctor]

3 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

i9-14900K

 

So 8 HyperThreaded P-cores and 16 E-cores. Total 32 logical CPUs.

 

 

I see, Intel's new chip builds make no sense to me.

[CJH]

This is a great price.

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cjh

[1laraz]

On 2/16/2024 at 3:08 PM, Zauurx said:

 

 

Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs):   144,70
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs):   3,278846

Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs):       113,30
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs):       0,680750

 

Sorry for off-topic, but does it make sense to convert the bit depth to 64 floating in Roon before feeding the stream to HQPlayer?

[jcn3]

51 minutes ago, 1laraz said:

Sorry for off-topic, but does it make sense to convert the bit depth to 64 floating in Roon before feeding the stream to HQPlayer?

 

look like roon did that because you've got volume leveling enabled.

[Miska]

3 hours ago, 1laraz said:

Sorry for off-topic, but does it make sense to convert the bit depth to 64 floating in Roon before feeding the stream to HQPlayer?

 

Only if you apply DSP in Roon. Better if you don't, but if you really want to, Roon uses best possible resolution between the two.

 

[Mops911]

i9-12900KS vs i7-14700KF:

 

The 12900KS works with less power than the i7-14700KF. Why?

 

I have two servers to run HQP, both passively cooled with 3 Samsung M2s for storage.

 

The i9-KS runs on a Z690 MSI unify-x motherboard with 2 DDR5 32GB g.skill at 5800Mhz

The i7-KF runs on a z790 Asus Apex Encore with 2 DDR5 24GB gskill at 6600Mhz

 

Setting for HQP are DSD256 with EC7-super and poly-sinc-short-mp

 

The i9-12900KS works fine at 16watts, the i7-14700kf needs 25watts not to have any glitches. 

 

Why? Benchmark for the i7 show a higher performance, why does it need more power to achieve the same?

 

NAA identical, network setup identical.

[Louie]

I am going  to build a new HQPE server, and would like to have DSD1024 with EC7 and sinc-M.

 

Any suggestion for a price performance config.:

Out of my thought:

- CPU 14900K

- RAM 128G

- RTX 4060TI 16G

[EMINENT]

2 hours ago, Louie said:

I am going  to build a new HQPE server, and would like to have DSD1024 with EC7 and sinc-M.

 

Any suggestion for a price performance config.:

Out of my thought:

- CPU 14900K

- RAM 128G

- RTX 4060TI 16G

 

Holo.

 

128gb ram is not necessary for sinc M. M is possible on my build.

Maybe for L or MX you would be better served with gpu ram greater than 24gb.