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  1. @Kal Rubinson and any others — has anyone tried out this new multichannel DAC? https://www.oktoresearch.com/dac8pro.htm At €989, it seems like a bargain. JCR
  2. Help! is there anything special with dedicated switch for Audio Video bridging? I find it strange that only Motu sells them. http://motu.com/products/avb/avb-switch.
  3. There's Nyquist, there's the actual bandwidth limited range in relation with the actual microphones range and arguments for 192 helping reconstructing transients. However there might be a better argument for using even more space disk : multichannel even for stereo. I'm convinced that what I discovered with MCH Electric Ladyland goes far beyond eventual differences in remastering talents or marketing strategies (Bernie Grundman signs the Stereo that is soso while Eddie Kramer signs the MCH ; the latter supervised the gorgeous Mono LP Axis signed by the former who delivers a soso Mono Mix in the recent SACD where the Stereo shines...). Fact is MCH is more than 2.5 x heavier than the Stereo and I bet it's better use of space than 192 vs 96. Maybe it is also due to LFE and engineers daring to go deep low but MCH downfolded into Stereo via HQP offers aural sculptures of the bass line and of the kick drum that are really reminiscent of live gigs impressions. Even soundstage is deeper that what I'm accustomed to. I'm thus starting a journey into MCH (to be played on my stereo) and suggestions and comments are welcome. As of Rock/Pop I start with https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/TabbedPollChart.htm Edited on December the 5th : I have not experimented with Classical or Acoustic Jazz but dig that when MCH aims at recreating natural acoustics, reverb, etc, down mixing to Stereo is a non sense. However, when reproducing (better, those who know say) the natural acoustics of the concert hall etc is not the goal, ie with Talking Heads, Steely Dan or Bjork, MCH to Stereo offers better bass delineation, smoother and more natural vocals and more noticeable soundstage vs the standard Stereo.
  4. It's here: http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Overview.aspx I was sincerely hoping for multichannel pcm/dsd input via asynchronous usb (giving us an affordable alternative to exaSound), but alas. Is the asynchronous HDMI Audio Jitter Reduction feature just a gimmick, or is there something really new here that could improve the audio from SACDs or USB stick over HDMI to my Denon 4310?
  5. I've seen several mentions of "HDMI output [from computer]" What HDMI output? Some sound card? An HDMI output on a video card being co-opted for audio? And do some of these [mysterious to me] HDMI outputs support multichannel? I also posted a "need an introduction" message but only one person responded about one aspect of the post, which I appreciated, but I still "dont' get" the whole computer to sound system "thing". Right now, my computer is on the opposite side of the room from my secondary A/V system and in a different room from my main A/V system. I might be willing to put computers in the area of the audio systems if they offered some practical advantages, but playing music from a computer seems to be more of a computerphile's choice than an audiophile's choice, if you get my drift.
  6. I'm in need of an end-to-end introduction to what I understand are the very few options for playing multi-channel files on disk (somewhere) on my audio-visual systems, which are at present networked but which are NOT co-located with computers. I'm beginning to know of a few pieces (such as getting the files from primephonic.com), but I can't see how to make the process work end-to-end. I have tried for years to get about six separate Sony devices just to see my computers' DLNA on Windows - none of them even see my main computer running Windows 7. There seem to be no DLNA troubleshooting tools for either the server or player ends of the network. I installed Serviio and again, no devices (or other computers) see the Serviio DLNA (Serviio can plac FLAC and DSD files, but not sure about multichannel). I just discovered primephonic.com, and their website seems to be talking only about playing surround sound on computers directly, not playing files stored on my Windows computer (I guess I run some kind of non-network cable(s) 50 feet between two rooms to play on my A/V system?) I see the exaSound e28 DAC, but $3,800 for just one piece of the puzzle? Seriously? From the bullet above, you may infer that I am a music lover, not an equipment lover. Yes, I've spent five figures over decades on media (about 1500 CDs and 100-200 SACDs and miscellaneous) and equipment, and my main system includes items from 1970s Janzsen electrostatic speakers to a 2014 55" Sony Bravia television. But it's not about the gear, it's about the music (video, schmideo, I'm not a videophile, either) I'm a software/database developer with almost 40 years experience (H-P mini-computer, then Microsoft stack), and for me computers are work tools, not toys. I don't love 'em any more than my father (an auto mechanic) loved his wrenches. So, "thank you" first of all to anybody who has read, not just skimmed, this post. I'm stubborn enough to still want to troubleshoot DLNA, just to prove I can get it working, or at least understand why it doesn't, but my ultimate goal is to play surround sound on my A/V systems. P.S. For the last 10-15 years I've been grumpy about the conflation of "hi-res" with multichannel sound. Strange bedfellows - I'm perfectly happy with a 44.1 kHz sampling rate, but view stereo recording as a historical artifact of the 1950s (wait a minute, I was born in the 1950s).
  7. One can only hope. I've seen that Oppo plans to release new Ultra HD Blu Ray player(s) in time for the holidays (Sony and Oppo confirm plans to release UHD Blu-ray players - FlatpanelsHD). Even if the price increased somewhat significantly, it would be half the price of an exaSound E28. I'd purchase such an Oppo in a heartbeat, even though I have little interest in the 4k source upgrade.
  8. NativeDSD Music continues to release new albums in Multichannel DSD every month and in some cases every week. Today their web store reaches 900 albums in Multichannel DSD, the most among music download stores. This includes 93 albums that are not available on Surround Sound SACD disc - but are available as Multichannel DSD Downloads. https://www.nativedsd.com/new_browse/#channel=multi
  9. Reposted from the Hi-res Digital Audio Discovery group on Facebook for those who do not have access: My LH Labs Pulse Xfi stereo DAC died last year so I started leaning heavily on my OPPO 105 as a stereo Asynchronous USB DAC with my PC as the source. All Stereo had been going through the Pulse. I love multichannel, and had been sending it over HDMI to my AV pre-processor. This worked well because I had Audyssey XT32 dialed in nicely. The Marantz didn’t support all bitrates, ISO, or DSD, so there were workarounds needed. For Stereo and DSD I preferred the OPPO 105 via analog out, but had to use HDMI for multichannel DSD. I did try the OPPO’s the 7.1 channel analog outputs to my Marantz, but was never able to make OPPO’s built-in room equalization come close to Marantz’s Audyssey XT32 Room EQ. Pure Direct is and remains a dull and traumatizingly bad non-starter in my room. The OPPO 105 does support multichannel over Ethernet from Jriver and the OPPOs DAC was slightly preferable to the Marantz’s DAC. But then the process began to break down, where the Pulse played everything I threw at it, the OPPO only accepts Stereo over USB from my PC USB, DSD64 only via USB thumb-drive, and other weird limitations. This elaborate setup almost required a flow-chart to decide how to handle varying file types for critical listening. Plus, Roon doesn't support multichannel over Ethernet to the OPPO 105 as an endpoint/zone like Jriver does,. Gotchas galore. My SimpleControl remote control app's macros helped a lot, but it was far from simple. I wanted to play everything through Roon over USB if possible. I also experimented with HDMI from my PC to the OPPO HDMI-In but ran into video synching and resolution issues and eventually gave up. The underlying problem was that the OPPO 105 lacked the same sweet sound of the LH Labs Pulse, and I had taken a step backwards. Had the OPPO supported multichannel over USB I might have sufficed, but instead got acute upgradeitis. This led to the crazy idea of evaluating a multichannel DAC that would support ALL my PC playback efforts. One DAC to rule them all! Well, there are only a handful of multichannel DACs on the market – this tiny niche is due to lack of demand, lack of multichannel downloads, setup complexity, and OPPOs lack of USB multichannel input flexibility doesn’t help, unless an aftermarket solution exists. The fact remains that many PC audio users like me have already ripped multichannel recordings from their own Blu-ray Audio, DVD-Audio, and SACD collection. They would appreciate a DAC that can handle whatever channel configuration is needed without switching between outputs, settings, and even devices. I found only 3 viable multichannel DACs (not counting the creative triple stereo Mytek-192 hack); MiniDSP U-DAC8 - $255 ExaSound E38 - $3.8K (incl. Teddy Pardo Linear Power Supply). Merging+Nadac - $15k I had been considering several 2ch DACs, but multichannel was my main objective, so I avoided the temptation – plus, a great multichannel DAC should also do stereo well, right? Given this price spread, I decided with some trepidation to give the Exasound E38 a chance, fully expecting to return it after the 30 day trial and settling for the MiniDSP. The fact that the E38 supports all 8 channels over USB was what made me the most intrigued. It also allowed Coax and Optical inputs for fun stuff like messing with CD Transports and other devices like Squeezeboxes, etc. The wait was shorter than I expected, and the E38 arrived together with the Teddy Pardo LPS and the ExaSound PlayPoint network streamer (that’s a topic for a different post). The packaging is clean and protected the merchandise well, plus the beautiful aluminum casework inspired confidence. I wasted no time connecting the E38, and it was simple; install the ASIO driver on my PC, move the PC’s USB cable from the OPPO to the E38, and move all 6 RCA unbalanced interconnects from the OPPO output to the E38’s output. PC -> USB Cable -> 5.1 Analog Out RCA Interconnects -> Processor. For reference, the 8ch outputs on the back of the ExaSound map to: Front Left Front Right Center Subwoofer Left Surround Right Surround Left Side Surround Right Side Surround. Once I fired everything up the E38 ASIO driver was immediately available to both Roon and Jriver. The last step was to change the audio-input on my Marantz Processor from HDMI to 7.1ch In. This got me PC audio from the analog 7.1ch inputs and video over HDMI AUX 2 input I was already using. That was the only tricky setting. Before I knew it, I was listening to the E38 for the first time. Compared to the Pure Direct from the OPPO or Marantz it was a noticeable improvement in terms of detail and clarity. However it was not as good as my dearly departed LH Labs Pulse Xfi in stereo mode. Why? There is some room correction processing on the stereo analog input, but only bass management on the 7.1ch input. Moving the L+R RCAs to the stereo CD input verified this - that sweet returned until I clicked on Pure Direct to ruin everything. This was why HDMI in on my Processor sounded better than 7.1ch-In. My multipurpose media room has basic room treatment such a carpet and a curtain at the right first order inflection points, but digital room correction is necessary. On most AVR/Pre-pros, 7.1 Ch-In bypasses all room correction rather than converting analog back into the digital domain, applying DSP and converting it to analog a second time. I let the equipment settle for a week just to give me time to fiddle around with HQPlayer, upsampling, etc, There were no Audyssey-like improvements and my heart kept sinking because the Pure Direct sound is not an option unless I get a dedicated treated room, and with multichannel surround this is even more critical. In short - I needed to room correction to correct the 7.1ch-in analog input beforeit left my PC. I had read about REW and Acourate room correction software on the PC, Googled multichannel room correction, and Dirac Live popped up. It looked relatively simple yet with a robust feature set, and had a 14 day trial. I installed it, got the room measurement microphone from my Marantz, plugged it into the microphone input on my PC and started the familiar 9-point sweep tone measurement process. Surprisingly this was a as or even little more intuitive than the Audyssey XT32 or MCACC processes. Dirac Live installs its own WASAPI driver an control panel which sits before the ExaSound E38 driver in the audio chain. Roon and Jriver both detect the Dirac Live driver, so no drama. Dirac Live’s room correction was far better than I expected, and it effortlessly bested the bar set by Audyssey's XT32. Once engaged, The Dirac WASAPI sound driver enhances the sound with a silky balanced poise and soundstage that must be heard to be believed. This is not like some cheesy DSP mode, it's something very different. It's the real deal. Even at low levels it's obvious something very special is happening. Especially compared to Audyssey the sound is less less bombastic and saturated. Dirac Live enhances the sound with a silky balanced poise that must be heard to be believed. Even at low levels it's obvious something very special is happening. Dirac Live applies room correction before the audio is fed to the DAC. Dirac works surprisingly well for stereo, but it's utterly indispensable for the tricky room dynamics encountered with a multichannel setup. Dirac makes good DACs sound great, and great DACs like the Exasound E38 sound spectacular. There’s a handy Dirac Live Filter ON/OFF switch that allows you A/B the sound, and it’s the most obvious instant night and day comparison. Yet I was still leery that this Dirac Live wonderswitch was somehow rigged to hurt the unfiltered, so I compared the native E38 driver and Dirac Live with the Filter Off, and yup – identical. I am not prone to hyperbole, but if you depend on DSP Room correction in your current system them chances are that this will persist when you travel the 7.1ch in route. I even suspect that those people who have room treatments could stand to benefit from Dirac Live, it’s that good. Naturally I went back and applied Dirac Live to the Marantz and OPPO DACs - each improved as well, but the E38 stood alone. The ExaSound WAS the one DAC to rule them all - my quest was over. As hoped, the ExaSound is not only a great 2 channel DAC, but its 8 channel capability makes it a unicorn and nearly 5x less expensive than the 8 channel Merging-NADAC. I have been living with this ExaSound E38 DAC and Dirac Live for over 3 months now, and it has completely reinvigorated my music enjoyment. I can’t wait to fire the rig up because my system has never sounded this good. I can throw everything at it, without silly setting changes. Acute upgradeitis? Cured! Bouts of Vinyl-confusion? Cured! My biggest lesson was that room correction is critical for my setup, both in stereo and multichannel. Your mileage may vary, but the 14-day trial of Dirac Live is like taking in a sweet little puppy into your house for a few days. You inevitably fall in love with the puppy, and it never goes back. Only attempt this if you can handle the fact that multichannel Dirac Live costs $750. Remember the doe-eyed impossibly cute puppy. You have been warned - this bell cannot be unrung.
  10. I know about Aix/iTrax, but very limited catalog. Desperately seeking more options, please.
  11. I am ready to make the jump back into multichannel audio with my collection of around 700 ripped SACDS and eClassical FLAC downloads (will have to go back and extract/claim them), 95% of them classical. Once upon a time I used an Oppo 103 and Denon 4310 AVR with a quintet of Klipsch Reference line speakers, but between the room setup and fiddling with Audyssey I was never really wowed by the results, and switched exclusively to stereo after acquiring a Teac DSD-capable dac and a pair of Epos Epic 2s. Now we have moved into a house with gameroom/loft area (14ft depth x 14.5ft width, 14dx11.5w usable space excluding walkway to bedroom) that should work for a surround setup and I am ready to select new speakers for it. I will be using stand-mounted bookshelfs for the rear channels and need to select an ideal solution for the main and center channels. Option 1: Three < 40in Towers: My first inclination was to go with something like Kal Rubinson's Monitor Audio Silver 8 setup (IMG_0033a.jpg (960×720) (stereophile.com)) with a trio of tower speakers (likely will add subs eventually), as many seem to assert that traditional center channel speakers are inferior for music purposes. However I am afraid this will make setting up a mounted TV or projector less practical (we'd like the space to double for home theater) - I care less about aesthetics and more about the screen being too high on the wall for a 14ft-deep room, though shorter towers (Monitor Audio 200s) could help with TV height situation (also see option 3). Option 2: Three Stand-Mounted Bookshelf Speakers (one on lower stand?) I suspect KEF LS50 Metas would work well for this, though adding sub(s) may be more imperative. Would using a lower stand (or cabinet) for the center bookshelf speaker be problematic for imaging? Option 3: Shorter Tower (or Bookshelf) from Same Family for Center Monitor Audio's Silver series offers this option (a 35in 200 could be paired with two 40in 300s), but finding this option with other speaker brands seems unlikely, and sonic signature of a shorter/bookshelf speaker might be too different to justify selecting it over a traditional center channel. Option 4: Traditional Center Channel Would room correction/DSP be able to overcome the sonic shortcomings of this option? This would be the easiest way to go for home theater and available variety. Other Considerations: _As a Roon user I will eventually want to integrate a multichannel Roon Ready endpoint like the exaSound S88. _Selecting speakers that could be driven by my Denon 4310, at least for the short term until I upgrade amplification, would be ideal. _I expect I will need to use room correction software like Dirac Live to achieve the best results. Thanks for you input! David W.
  12. Is it possible to use JRiver for Mac to send multichannel DSD over HDMI to an Oppo 103? I keep getting the error that DoP 2.8MHz 5ch could not be started on the output "Core Audio".
  13. Hi, I'm new around here. My audio set up uses Squeezebox:es as transports. I enjoy the flexibility and ability to have instantaneous access to the music, although the SB set up is two channel only. I'm putting together a new PC and I'm looking into the Lynx AES16e for it's ability to serve up multichannel audio. Since I've seen there are a few of the forum members who use the AES16e, I'd like to ask what it's like in daily usage for listening, both in terms of audio quality, and in terms of convenience. I use digital amps and they have AES/EBU inputs. I won't be using 5.1, but rather a 4.1 set up (no center channel). What are your experiences with the AES16e? What made you go for it, and what's it like on a daily basis? Is it hard to set up the software? What about the interface - does it take long to suss out? Is it fiddly, or is it dependable, will it just play, once it's been set up? Sound quality compared to other options today (in case you've made comparisons)? I'm curious as to whether it's possible to mix say, multichannel audio converted to FLAC, or just LPCM, into a 4.1 mix through the AES16e software? I appreciate your input.
  14. I'm very confused. I have ripped a 5.1 DVD-A disc to m4a using DVA Audio extractor. I set it to rip 6 channels, and it seems to have worked. The m4a files' information says 6 channels when viewed in OS X Finder. But when I connect the USB hard drive with the files to my Oppo 105 and play, my AVR only shows 2 channel input and I only get 2 channel playback. Put the DVD-A disc in the Oppo 105 and it plays in 5.1 Any thoughts on what happened?
  15. Impending house move means downsizing and rationalisation of Hifi and AV gear. Sadly for me this means I have a few items to dispose of as 2 systems are merging into one. So up for reluctant sale is my exasound e28 mk2 multichannel dac. Had it since new. The serial no is 417 and it’s v1.5 it has mini xlr outputs on the rear and included are 6 mini xlr to phono cables along with a supra usb cable. All have given excellent reliable service and effortlessly handled everything thrown at it. I'm sure those looking for a multichannel DAC will know all about them already. So looking for around £2000, but will consider reasonably close offers. The DAC is in Scotland and so p&p will be at cost to wherever it goes, insurance can be added in as well also at cost. A new e38 currently retails for $3849 usd according to the web site.
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