The Computer Audiophile Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 Good luck. I’ve done it and don’t wish it upon anyone. Markus8 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Markus8 said: In general good news, though „cryptic“ doesn’t sound that inviting 😅 Why not use HQPlayer for the convolution engine capabilities? Markus8 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Markus8 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 8 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: Why not use HQPlayer for the convolution engine capabilities? How does HQPlayer work together with Minimserver? Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Markus8 said: How does HQPlayer work together with Minimserver? You need to run HQPlayer Embedded that has UPNP compatibility, once installed it can work as a UPNP renderer and can be controlled by a UPNP control point app : Minimserver -> upnp control point app -> HQPlayer Embedded HQPlayer Embedded exists in two versions: OS version, can boot from a usb key or can be installed on a host OS (Ubuntu, Debian …) You can use several control point apps (different choices on Android and iOS/iPadOS) like Bubbleupnp, MConnect Player, Lumïn (*), Linn (*), Linn Kazoo (*), JPlay for iOS (iOS/iPadOS only) (*) to run properly they need Bubbleupnpserver running on the same (or wherever you like) Minimserver nas/pc. It gives OpenHome compatibility, needed by the apps, to the HQPe renderer Markus8 1 Stefano My audio system Link to comment
Markus8 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @stefano_mbp Thank you! That sounds quite tricky to do, hope I can do that :) So when running Minimserver on a QNAP, does the HQPlayer Embedded run on the QNAP too? Another question: when more tools /APIs are involved, doesn’t this harm the sound quality? Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Markus8 said: does the HQPlayer Embedded run on the QNAP too? No, it’s impossible: Qnap has a specific not compatible OS HQPe needs a (quite) powerful computer to run on you definitely need a dedicated computer to run HQPlayer Embedded 11 minutes ago, Markus8 said: when more tools /APIs are involved, doesn’t this harm the sound quality? The UPNP setup is very simple, no APIs or superfluous tools, just a mediaserver and a renderer. No music file goes through the control point , the control point reads the music files address (and metadata) from the mediaserver and send those addresses to the renderer which provide to ask the mediaserver the corresponding files. Therefore there can’t be any degradation of sound quality Stefano My audio system Link to comment
Markus8 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @stefano_mbp Thank you for clearing things up. So for a try would it be ok to run Minimserver and HQPlayer Embedded on a Mac Mini M2 ? And was just reading this, which seems to be really powerful. https://www.signalyst.com/custom.html Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, Markus8 said: HQPlayer Embedded on a Mac Mini M2 ? It’s impossible, unfortunately HQPlayer Embedded can run only on Linux OS (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora) Stefano My audio system Link to comment
Markus8 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said: It’s impossible, unfortunately HQPlayer Embedded can run only on Linux OS (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora) Oh ok, so I only got a QNAP and Mac Mini - then it seems there is no possibility of using your suggested setup. What would solve this is a convolution engine with good usability in Minimserver or am I missing another option? Is @Marcin_gps still around here? Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Markus8 said: What would solve this is a convolution engine with good usability in Minimserver Minimserver (with Minimstreamer option) can solve the issue. As I wrote before it is not very friendly but it works fine. I suggest to search in the Minimserver forum and ask Simon Nash (Minimserver developer) some support. you can start searching on Google Minimserver convolution and the result will be a lot of posts in Minimserver forum Marcin is here but I think he isn’t involved in this kind of discussion as he is the developer of JPlay for iOS (among other things like JPlay Femto or hardware solutions) Stefano My audio system Link to comment
Markus8 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Thank you @stefano_mbp will read through it. Though as @The Computer Audiophile wrote it was painful and I am sure he is into these things far more than most others. Why not integrate a convolution engine into Jplay Femto as an add-on? Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @Markus8here you can find the MinimStreamer guide to convolution … using a filter file in MinimStreamer is not that different from HQPlayer Stefano My audio system Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 jplay for iOS also requires minimserver, or some software like it, to work, and it is the control point for the whole thing. No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted December 1, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: jplay for iOS also requires minimserver, or some software like it, to work, and it is the control point for the whole thing. Or, for those rare souls without local content, it’ll work on its own without a server. AudioDoctor and Markus8 1 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Or, for those rare souls without local content, it’ll work on its own without a server. That's a good point Chris, thanks for adding that in there. Markus8 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Markus8 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/14/2022 at 10:22 AM, wklie said: If powering off the iOS / Android device does not make a SQ difference, you'd need to look into the other hardware components for internet streaming vs local network streaming as I suggested in another post Didn’t find that @wklie. Could you please comment with a link to it. Markus8 1 Link to comment
buzzlulu Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Playing with JPlay for the first time on my iPhone with MinimServer running on an iMac and using a dCS Rossini. When I tap on a song within an album or playlist I expect to just play that song. Instead it plays the song - AND - I get a message indicating that all subsequent tracks have been added to the queue. This happens with local content and also within Qobuz. I can I just play one individual track without adding remaining tracks to the queue? Thanks Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 14 minutes ago, buzzlulu said: Playing with JPlay for the first time on my iPhone with MinimServer running on an iMac and using a dCS Rossini. When I tap on a song within an album or playlist I expect to just play that song. Instead it plays the song - AND - I get a message indicating that all subsequent tracks have been added to the queue. This happens with local content and also within Qobuz. I can I just play one individual track without adding remaining tracks to the queue? Thanks Hmm. This is strange. Even if I manually select the three dots on a single track then hit Add to Queue, it adds more than the track. @Marcin_gps what say you? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/19/2024 at 10:37 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: Hmm. This is strange. Even if I manually select the three dots on a single track then hit Add to Queue, it adds more than the track. @Marcin_gps what say you? I can't reproduce this issue here. @buzzlulu can you please post a screenshot of the screen where you are trying to do it? Marcin JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
Markus8 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 12/1/2023 at 9:19 AM, stefano_mbp said: You need to run HQPlayer Embedded that has UPNP compatibility, once installed it can work as a UPNP renderer and can be controlled by a UPNP control point app : I finally managed to have a setup like this, with Holo Audio Red running HQPlayer Embedded. Though when I try to start a song in Jplay from Qobuz I get the error sending action to streamer. Any idea how to fix it? Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 39 minutes ago, Markus8 said: I finally managed to have a setup like this, with Holo Audio Red running HQPlayer Embedded. Though when I try to start a song in Jplay from Qobuz I get the error sending action to streamer. Any idea how to fix it? You're running HQP Embedded on a Holo Red? You used the Pi4 image? How are you outputting to DAC? Have you selected the renderer (HQPEmbedded) in JPLAY? No electron left behind. Link to comment
Markus8 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: You're running HQP Embedded on a Holo Red? You used the Pi4 image? How are you outputting to DAC? Have you selected the renderer (HQPEmbedded) in JPLAY? Yes I downloaded the latest HQPlayer OS image for the Holo Red. Qobuz streaming already works via the HQPlayer iPad app. Output to DAC of the Holo Red is via AES/EBU cable. Exactly, selected the HQPe in Jplay Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Ok, great. Have you scanned Minimserver and loaded its data to JPLAY? edit: I find it best to do a rescan, and then sync data rather than trying to sync new data. No electron left behind. Link to comment
Markus8 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I am not running Minimserver, I have no local files - just Qobuz connected. Link to comment
stefano_mbp Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 hours ago, Markus8 said: I get the error sending action to streamer. Any idea how to fix it? Have you configured HQPlayer in JPlay Settings? I don’t use Qobuz anyway these are my settings, they work for local library Stefano My audio system Link to comment
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