Popular Post Anwar Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 After I purchased FC10 Alpha for my DIY streamer project, I run into problem of finding a neat way to place AC rocker switch and fuse. FC10 allows easy mounting of IEC inlet, but it was not designed with switch and fuse. The chassis is so nice causing my reluctance to hand-drill it, in case the finish will not be nice. I also read a lot of comments here that audiophiles prefer low profile PCIe cards that go in straight to the motherboard, like FC9. So I provided feedback to Streacom asking them to design another back panel option for the audio community, i.e. no risers required, and having C14 IEC mounting hole large enough to accommodate IEC inlet with switch and fuse, an example below. I believe the cut-out size and mounting screws locations are standard so that we can choose our preferred IEC inlet with switch and fuse. This is the drawing I received from Streacom, FC9-style low profile PCIe cards slots, 6 of them. I asked Streacom whether I can share the picture in this forum and hear more feedback from the audio community, and they agreed. So it's time for the DIY enthusiasts to provide feedback. Chris, if any AS rules are broken in this post, please let me know. wittao, Ben-M, Dev and 1 other 3 1 Music server builder Link to comment
wittao Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Congrats Anwar! Nice idea and add flexibility for FC10 users. My preferred version will be the 1 low profile bracket and 2pcs normal bracket, hope in the near future Streacom will introduce that version too. Manufacturer of Core Audio equipments www.coreaudio.eu Source: Core Audio DAIDO ULTIMATE + CA KARUNA ULTIMATE USB/SPDIF Bridge + CA DENPO ULTIMATE DAC Amplifiers: MBL 6010D preamp + MBL 9008A monoblocks Loudspeakers: MBL 101emkII, YG Hailey 2.2 Cables: TARALABS USB, Muse Digit, Muse IC + ZERO Evolution, Muse SP Link to comment
bbc802 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Only seeing the topic today but I just wrote to streacom for such an option for the fc10, that would really be a good thing if it's possible to get some low profile vertical expansion slots. Link to comment
Popular Post Anwar Posted August 13, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2021 Based on my emails with Streacom, here are the pictures of the final FC10 backplate design for their audio customers. The Computer Audiophile, StreamFidelity and wittao 3 Music server builder Link to comment
bbc802 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 You (and they) make my day :) Is it officially proposed by streacom, only in the pipeline or do we need to contact them specifically for that purpose? Link to comment
Popular Post Anwar Posted August 13, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, bbc802 said: You (and they) make my day :) Is it officially proposed by streacom, only in the pipeline or do we need to contact them specifically for that purpose? Yes, the design was finalized in June 2021 and it is in the pipeline. Unfortunately I have purchased enough FC10 cases (existing design). I hope they offer this new backplate to existing FC10 owners. I suggest you contact them directly on availability. AudioDoctor and Darryl R 2 Music server builder Link to comment
Darryl R Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 6:06 AM, Anwar said: Yes, the design was finalized in June 2021 and it is in the pipeline. Unfortunately I have purchased enough FC10 cases (existing design). I hope they offer this new backplate to existing FC10 owners. I suggest you contact them directly on availability. Well done Anwar! I asked them to do the low profile PCIe slots on the FC10 a few years ago and they said "no". Good for all they're finally doing it. I think this makes Streacom competitve with HDPlex again, though Larry is doing some nice stuff on the new H5 (last ETA mid-Sep), and I prefer his heatpipe assembly (not having seen the new one yet). Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Nice! No electron left behind. Link to comment
Dev Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Only if one of these guys, Hdplex or Streacom, could come up with a full height and bigger chassis with support for dual 3647 socket, that would be awesome 😃 Link to comment
Dev Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Darryl R said: Well done Anwar! I asked them to do the low profile PCIe slots on the FC10 a few years ago and they said "no". Good for all they're finally doing it. I also remember asking them a could of different enhancements and they came saying they have no plans. I am glad they are now listening to their customers. 14 hours ago, Darryl R said: I think this makes Streacom competitve with HDPlex again, though Larry is doing some nice stuff on the new H5 (last ETA mid-Sep), and I prefer his heatpipe assembly (not having seen the new one yet). I also like Hdplex cooling system a lot better but I like Streacom chassis (I have two) better than H5. They feel solid and possibly thicker. Any idea what is Larry upto ? Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 That backplate is the sole reason I was considering an H5 over the FC10. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dev said: Only if one of these guys, Hdplex or Streacom, could come up with a full height and bigger chassis with support for dual 3647 socket, that would be awesome 😃 The FC12 isn't big enough? No electron left behind. Link to comment
Dev Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: The FC12 isn't big enough? fc12 is not passive cooled. It’s similar to other ATX tower case which needs fans. Link to comment
Iving Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: The FC12 isn't big enough? 15 minutes ago, Dev said: fc12 is not passive cooled. It’s similar to other ATX tower case which needs fans. The FC12 is fantastic . I have had one for years. I used to shout about it but gave up. Great for ATX and even bigger. Great for PCIe direct lanes. I'm not sure about availability now. Passive cooling is fine with copper ice pipe. Depends on CPU. Even with newer higher W CPUs we have seen so much inventiveness here with DIY cooling. Did I say the FC12 is amazing. A Forum search might be informative. Link to comment
Dev Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I have never ventured trying to passive cool fc12. do you have some links on how its done ? what is copper ice pipe ? Link to comment
Iving Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dev said: I have never ventured trying to passive cool fc12. do you have some links on how its done ? what is copper ice pipe ? Below is NOFAN CR-80EH Copper IcePipe. You can go to c. 65W. I have no problem flac to 176.4 with HQPlayer - CPU only about 5%. If I got a more powerful mobo/CPU I would keep this case and muck about with blocks and pipes. Everybody's doing it! Link to comment
Popular Post Iving Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Dev said: do you have some links on how its done ? Mine in situ as described here: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/37373-the-paul-hynes-sr7/?do=findComment&comment=1047526 Darryl R, Dev, AudioDoctor and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Dev said: fc12 is not passive cooled. It’s similar to other ATX tower case which needs fans. I have an FC12 as well as @lving. Mine is water cooled, although not in use at the moment due to reasons beyond my control, when it was running it was silent, unless it was put under severe stress to get the fans and water pump to ramp up, with both the CPU and GPU water cooled Dev 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Darryl R Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 15 hours ago, Dev said: I also like Hdplex cooling system a lot better but I like Streacom chassis (I have two) better than H5. They feel solid and possibly thicker. Any idea what is Larry upto ? Same here, plus I also like the silver finish. But Larry has been very responsive to individual requests, and really cared about customer input. As I understand it, at a minimum, he modified the H5 rear plate removing the curved edges at the top and bottom (so no more screw alignment there and potential interference with pre-attached I/O plates), and the low-profile PCIe bracket slots at the bottom, all to ease assembly. He was also wondering about attachment of the PCIe brackets at the top, where customers had complained about stripping threads. I'm not sure what, if anything, he resolved to do there. He has also modified the heatsink assembly, I think to allow more clearance over mobo's with taller VRM heatsinks, but I'll defer to others with more specific knowledge of this. You can always email him directly and ask. I was happy to hear of the rear plate mods. Link to comment
Darryl R Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Iving said: Mine in situ as described here: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/37373-the-paul-hynes-sr7/?do=findComment&comment=1047526 Very interesting. I didn't even now about the FC12 (don't see it on the US distributor's site). Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, Darryl R said: Very interesting. I didn't even now about the FC12 (don't see it on the US distributor's site). https://streacom.com/products/f12c-atx-case/ Darryl R 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Darryl R Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 6:06 AM, Anwar said: I suggest you contact them directly on availability. "End of 2021" -- from Noah at Streacom. Link to comment
Anwar Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Darryl R said: "End of 2021" -- from Noah at Streacom. Thank you for checking and sharing your finding, Darryl. Music server builder Link to comment
wittao Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Thank you Anwar again for your work! My question is the IEC inlet. Furutech and other companies are making really good IEC sockets with or without fuse option and gold plated/rhodium plated versions but unfortunately not with switch option. The others on the market are very very low quality. Did you find a good quality one? Manufacturer of Core Audio equipments www.coreaudio.eu Source: Core Audio DAIDO ULTIMATE + CA KARUNA ULTIMATE USB/SPDIF Bridge + CA DENPO ULTIMATE DAC Amplifiers: MBL 6010D preamp + MBL 9008A monoblocks Loudspeakers: MBL 101emkII, YG Hailey 2.2 Cables: TARALABS USB, Muse Digit, Muse IC + ZERO Evolution, Muse SP Link to comment
Anwar Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 18 hours ago, wittao said: Thank you Anwar again for your work! My question is the IEC inlet. Furutech and other companies are making really good IEC sockets with or without fuse option and gold plated/rhodium plated versions but unfortunately not with switch option. The others on the market are very very low quality. Did you find a good quality one? Viktor, good point. Additional 2 holes can accommodate IEC inlet with fuse and without switch, like Furutech. The issue then is with the AC rocker switch - too many options, but must fit within the available space. Is there a need to use audiophile-grade rocker switch? Maybe an additional plate to fill the hole after Furutech type inlet installed, then drill the plate to install selected rocker switch. Music server builder Link to comment
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