Red Underwear, Cheap Fiats and Other Moto Stuff

[Confused]

No underwear on display here, but we do have some cheap Fiats, and some cars in red livery:

 

The greatest small cars ever made | Autocar

[accwai]

On 8/21/2021 at 2:23 AM, Confused said:

The greatest small cars ever made | Autocar

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To many the Peugeot 205 was the most significant car of the eighties. It was made in huge numbers (5.3 million) over 15 years, the model range was enormous, and it was wide too, encompassing ultra-frugal diesels with high-performance models such as the GTi and Turbo 16 Group B rally car.

 

Road going homologation version of the T16:

 

 

This glass model above doesn't show the 4wd drive train unfortunately, but note what has happened to the back seats... And although not mentioned in the article, the Toyota Yaris has a full blown rally version as well. And speaking of Toyota...

 

On 7/6/2021 at 8:17 AM, accwai said:

Endurance racing is mostly a game of strategy. That's probably way too subtle to sell movies...

 

...they just won their 4th consecutive Le Mans last weekend. Despite their second car got punted off the track right at the start, they still managed to finish 1-2 by flattening the whole field. Toyota had a live stream on YouTube from each of their cars for the duration of the whole race but essentially the pair was circulating the track passing anything in sight in total nonchalance. Not much mention from external coverage other than the occasional Oh yeah, Toyota's still 1-2 overall. While the professionalism that Toyota displayed was jaw dropping, there won't be a Toyota vs The World movie any time soon that's for sure...

[GregWormald]

 

14 hours ago, accwai said:

And speaking of Toyota...

 

 

...they just won their 4th consecutive Le Mans last weekend. Despite their second car got punted off the track right at the start, they still managed to finish 1-2 by flattening the whole field. Toyota had a live stream on YouTube from each of their cars for the duration of the whole race but essentially the pair was circulating the track passing anything in sight in total nonchalance. Not much mention from external coverage other than the occasional Oh yeah, Toyota's still 1-2 overall. While the professionalism that Toyota displayed was jaw dropping, there won't be a Toyota vs The World movie any time soon that's for sure...

I'm sure they are very happy that Porsche dropped out of this type of endurance racing!

[Confused]

I enjoyed @accwai's mention of the Peugeot 205 T16.

 

Recently I was negotiating traffic on a multi-lane roundabout. A 205 GTI moved along side me. It is many years since I have seen one on the road in the UK, although at one time they were very popular here. This thing is though, I was very surprised at just how small they are. I mean, in the 80's they were a normal sized car, but here in 2021 they look tiny. Most curious. I guess cars are a bit like audiophiles, who also tend to gradually increase in size over the years.

 

Plus, as mentioned above, the T16 was slightly tweaked versus the standard car:

 

 

[accwai]

20 hours ago, Confused said:

Recently I was negotiating traffic on a multi-lane roundabout. A 205 GTI moved along side me. It is many years since I have seen one on the road in the UK, although at one time they were very popular here. This thing is though, I was very surprised at just how small they are. I mean, in the 80's they were a normal sized car, but here in 2021 they look tiny. Most curious. I guess cars are a bit like audiophiles, who also tend to gradually increase in size over the years.

 

Plus, as mentioned above, the T16 was slightly tweaked versus the standard car

 

The term slightly above is a slightly casual Instead of asking about the back seats, I suppose a more direct question would be what's happened to the engine, i.e. where it is... And the full rally version is wild. The screenshot below links to a DiRT Rally 2.0 demo run with commentary by the simracer Jimmy Broadbent 🍿

 

 

As for size of cars going up, depends on where I guess. Here in Canada, cars have always been big but lately they have been getting taller. Those in low cars constantly got headlight stuffed in their face at night. We once visited a gated community. The gate control was so high up I had to shuffle the car to the right, get out, talk, jump back and dash through the gate before it closed. For most gates and drive-through ATMs, one just needs to reach up a little, but this one seems to be specifically catering for enormous SUVs.

 

The flip side though is that when we were going through southern Europe in the summer of 2018, tiny cars were everywhere. Around here, Toyota Yaris is considered small while Corolla is consider mid-sized. During the trip, the Aygo was all over the place. By comparison, Yaris would be considered mid-size. Corolla was quite rare, and probably considered big. Don't recall seeing a Camry during the trip. Avalon? Forgot that, it's rare even around here. Oh, and came across a *sparkling* Lancia Delta Integrale at a side street in Genoa. Too bad that's before I started taking pictures of cars in the street. And speaking of Toyota Aygo, there is a one-off I Go Crazy concept that's along more or less the same line as Peugeot 205 T16:

 

 

It's only RWD through.

[accwai]

On 8/26/2021 at 4:17 AM, GregWormald said:

I'm sure they are very happy that Porsche dropped out of this type of endurance racing!

 

I'm sure of that too! Experts have been predicting all kinds of Toyota demise scenario with various protagonists, Alpine this year and Bugatti, Peugeot etc going forward. Toyota's luck will surely run out after so many years right? In fact, Porsche vs Bugatti vs Tesla 2023 would make a wonderful sci-fi movie. Really looking forward to it!

 

In any case, just came across this certified used Porsche:

 

 

 

... with 104km on the odom 🤣

[Iving]

Girl In A Sports Car - Chris Rea ('La Passione', 2015)

 

 

[christopher3393]

 

drop dead sexy.

 

 

vintage beauty...great tour bus...needs a little work...could live in that!

[sphinxsix]

2 hours ago, Iving said:

Girl In A Sports Car

 

18 minutes ago, christopher3393 said:

drop dead sexy

 

A friend of mine on today Autotuning Show in Budappest. Judging by the cups she was the winner..

 

 

 

 

[Confused]

On 8/27/2021 at 2:17 PM, accwai said:

The term slightly above is a slightly casual

Perhaps. More accurately it is English understatement. With the correct interpretation being something nearer to "utterly bonkers" or similar.

 

On 8/27/2021 at 2:17 PM, accwai said:

It's only RWD through.

Nothing wrong with that in my view. I love RWD cars.

 

If you were entering a rally in snow and ice conditions, maybe not, but other than that I love RWD.

[accwai]

On 8/29/2021 at 12:35 PM, Iving said:

Girl In A Sports Car

 

 

Girl In A Formula Car:

 

 

[AudioDoctor]

On 8/31/2021 at 7:02 AM, accwai said:

 

 

Girl In A Formula Car:

 

 

 

Her, and the rest of the Iron Dames team are my 7 year olds favorite. I showed them to her when she asked me if girls can race cars too.

[Confused]

There was mention of the Zandvoort F1 Grand Prix in anther thread. (or the Sandford GP, as we call it in the UK) 

 

Anyway, I did not want to take the other thread off topic, but I do have a question.

 

What is it with Dutch GP fans and endless EDM? The Grand Prix was like a massive outdoor three day rave, interrupted by very occasional motor racing.

 

(It looked fantastic by the way, I might make the effort go next year and join the Verstappen fans wearing my "Hammer Time" tee shirt)

[sphinxsix]

1 hour ago, Confused said:

There was mention of the Zandvoort F1 Grand Prix

 

1 hour ago, Confused said:

What is it with Dutch GP fans and endless EDM?

 

I actually was in Zandvoort, don't know about EDM, the only loud music I heard was coming from this:

 

[AudioDoctor]

I wish this was cheap...

 

 

[fas42]

Something old, something new ...

 

 

[accwai]

On 10/16/2021 at 2:46 AM, fas42 said:

Something old, something new ...

 

... until you floor it, and like Whaaaat?! ... My brain just exploded. Yeah it goes like a Porsche, but does it stop and turn like one too?

 

 

Also take a look at the size difference between front and rear brakes on the Taycan. Just like Lambo Urus but on a flat body. That must be saying something...

[sphinxsix]

2 hours ago, accwai said:

it goes like a Porsche, but does it stop and turn like one too?

Very important but do you think that this:

 

2 hours ago, accwai said:

 

turns and in general handles like Porsche.?

By Porsche I mean something closer to the number nine-nine-one..

9-1-8 etc..  

 

BTW they clearly put some effort in the design but for me it's another Porsch which is not really a looker. Except from the badge of course.. obviously among the coolest ones.

 

[AudioDoctor]

On 9/19/2021 at 4:41 PM, AudioDoctor said:

I wish this was cheap...

 

 

 

 

Quoting myself here because I made a discovery, and all things being relative, it may just be cheap...

 

GTO Engineering, in England, is making a revival version of the California Spyder. Though I am positive it will cost near a million USD that's significantly less than an original California Spider.

 

https://www.gtoengineering.com/revival

[accwai]

21 hours ago, sphinxsix said:

[...] do you think that this:

 

turns and in general handles like Porsche.?

By Porsche I mean something closer to the number nine-nine-one..

9-1-8 etc..  

 

Don't know if this is close to number nine-nine-one but the enormous brake got to count for something:

 

 

Is this comparable then?

 

 

Please advise.

[fas42]

Just found this ... a famous name, locally made track car, on our best known circuit,

 

 

[accwai]

1 hour ago, fas42 said:

Just found this ... a famous name, locally made track car, on our best known circuit,

 

The interior layout looks quite normal for something in the GT3 class... In any case, this video is supposed to be the same circuit's production class lap record:

 

 

Isn't it supposed to be the same color as the red Porsche above?

[Racerxnet]

On 8/29/2021 at 2:32 PM, sphinxsix said:

Judging by the cups she was the winner..

D or DD cups? ☺️

[sphinxsix]

1 hour ago, Racerxnet said:

D or DD cups? ☺️

I hoped someone would get it.. 👍

 

On 10/18/2021 at 3:07 PM, accwai said:

 

Don't know if this is close to number nine-nine-one but the enormous brake got to count for something:

 

 

Is this comparable then?

 

 

Please advise.

Absolutely - the upper one! 

Primo - it's red (!)

Secundo - it's got Michelin tyres, I'm a huge fan of the brand, have them even in my second consecutive MTB..

But most importantly:

Primo..

 

[fas42]

The Australian car industry has evaporated ... the Brabham BT62

is the only light shining in that darkness - so hopefully will be able to get some traction ...