Multichannel Dac with Streamer and Roon?

[mansr]

1 hour ago, R1200CL said:

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/raat-vs-aoip-protocols/33573/3

Did you read the link ?

 

Here is what it saying:

 

Blah blah blah.

Where can I download the RAAT spec? How much do I have pay Roon to use the protocol? What happens if Roon goes away?

[mansr]

10 hours ago, jabbr said:

Ravenna (AES67) doesn't seem to be getting the adoption of the others ... why?

Probably because it is relatively complex to implement, and because of NIH syndrome.

 

10 hours ago, jabbr said:

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 That shouldn't be too hard to extend.

Of course then its not standard ...

If enough vendors demand it, it will be added to the standard.

[R1200CL]

14 minutes ago, mansr said:

Where can I download the RAAT spec? How much do I have pay Roon to use the protocol? What happens if Roon goes away?

 

I’m sure if you contact Roon, you will get answers. ?

https://kb.roonlabs.com/RAAT

 

And how much must you pay to use AES67 ?

[mansr]

3 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

I’m sure if you contact Roon, you will get answers. ?

https://kb.roonlabs.com/RAAT

I gather from that page that you can't have the actual spec, only some abomination of an SDK. I say abomination because everything I've ever seen bearing that acronym has been one.

[Chopin75]

Hi Karl.

 

Any more news about Multi-channel playback ? New methods or products? 

 

 

[Kal Rubinson]

36 minutes ago, Chopin75 said:

Any more news about Multi-channel playback ? New methods or products? 

Since when?  I doubt it things will change rapidly.  I am off to RMAF tomorrow but I doubt there will be much MCH.

 

(Who is Karl?)

[Chopin75]

Hi Kal.

 

Sorry my bad, could not spell your name!   So the choices for M-ch:

 

MiniDSP DAC which I have

Or I can try the MiniDSP Dio 8 to link 3 DACs

Or exasound

Or Merging - too expensive?!

 

Anything else ?

Adrian 

[jtwrace]

Anything new for MCH dacs?  Still looking for an 8 ch dac that will work with Roon!  Oh and it's objectively superior and doesn't cost $13k and isn't something mentioned in this thread already.  Okto could be an option but not sure if it's Roon Ready.  

[Kal Rubinson]

7 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

Anything new for MCH dacs?  Still looking for an 8 ch dac that will work with Roon!  Oh and it's objectively superior and doesn't cost $13k and isn't something mentioned in this thread already.  Okto could be an option but not sure if it's Roon Ready.  

Anubis?

[jtwrace]

3 minutes ago, Kal Rubinson said:

Anubis?

Only 4 ch.  I'd like 8 ch

[Kal Rubinson]

2 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

Only 4 ch.  I'd like 8 ch

Actually 6, if you know how.

 

So what's missing from the current options?

[jtwrace]

Just now, Kal Rubinson said:

Actually 6, if you know how.

 

So what's missing from the current options?

Able to take a streamer and will stream MCH which even the Okto hasn't been tested yet for that.  

[Kal Rubinson]

Just now, jtwrace said:

Able to take a streamer and will stream MCH which even the Okto hasn't been tested yet for that.  

exaSound e38 plus the Sigma Streamer or Gamma Server?

NADAC on its own?

[jtwrace]

1 minute ago, Kal Rubinson said:

exaSound e38 plus the Sigma Streamer or Gamma Server?

NADAC on its own?

I'd rather not..

[Kal Rubinson]

3 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

I'd rather not..

OK.  Nevermind.

[Chopin75]

I am not aware of anything new. My plan is to hook 3 DACs up. I tried briefly using J Music player on Mac and linked 3 DACs, and despite each DAC being so different they sync ok.  Surely an external clock to clock them all may improve things. 

Unfortunately J Media player on Mac sounds terrible esp on DSD. Perhaps when I have the chance to load an Audio Linux on my PC and run J Media Player the sound would improve. But it appears tricky to use J Media player to link 3 DACs, but apparently can be done, at least per Pink Faun. Pinkfaun also makes a 3 I2S audio bridge output but it can only do PCM.

 

[Chopin75]

Also now I am mainly using either MiniDSP products - it has the budget 8 channel DAC (PCM only) and I have also tried with good result using this:

 

https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/u-dio8

 

This clocks 3 DACs together quite well, but again only PCM 

 

If one buys 3 budget DACs ($1000 or less) it would be cheaper than exasound

Would it be better ?? Depends I guess.

I am wanting to run R2R DACs only for PCM sound so this leaves me no choice but to use 3 R2R DACs which should sound great. 

[R1200CL]

@Kal Rubinson

Would you happen to know when the Casablanca is planned to be Roon ready ?

[R1200CL]

4 hours ago, jtwrace said:

Oh and it's objectively superior and doesn't cost $13k

 

Like the Trinnov ? 😀

 

[Kal Rubinson]

5 hours ago, R1200CL said:

@Kal Rubinson

Would you happen to know when the Casablanca is planned to be Roon ready ?

I have not kept up with Theta.

[yamamoto2002]

Lynx Aurora 8 + CBL-DIGY85 outputs 8ch (4 x 2ch) AES/EBU digital signal (PCM 192kHz 24bit and DSD DoP 2.8MHz).

and Aurora 8 + CBL-AOUT85 has 8ch XLR balanced analog output. (PCM only, up to 192kHz 24bit)

 

 

[jtwrace]

2 minutes ago, yamamoto2002 said:

Lynx Aurora 8 + CBL-DIGY85 outputs 8ch (4 x 2ch) AES/EBU digital signal up to PCM 192kHz 24bit.

and Aurora 8 + CBL-AOUT85 outputs 8ch XLR balanced analog output.

I'd love to buy an Aurora (n) but they won't work with a streamer it seems.  I have a Lynx Hilo and Allo USBridge and they won't work so it's a no go as the Aurora uses the same XMOS card according to Lynx.  

[yamamoto2002]

1 minute ago, jtwrace said:

I'd love to buy an Aurora (n) but they won't work with a streamer it seems.  I have a Lynx Hilo and Allo USBridge and they won't work so it's a no go as the Aurora uses the same XMOS card according to Lynx.  

Oh, sorry to hear that! Surely Aurora and Hilo uses the same XMOS chip, because it is the same identical module (LT-USB) provides USB I/O function.

[jtwrace]

23 minutes ago, yamamoto2002 said:

Oh, sorry to hear that! Surely Aurora and Hilo uses the same XMOS chip, because it is the same identical module (LT-USB) provides USB I/O function.

Yes, that's correct, that's why I tried the Hilo first. 

[Chopin75]

Right now I am playing with the cheap Mini-DSP DAC 8, hey it is sounding rather impressive! Probably also due to me upgrading my power conditioner that now supplies the PC/DAC8 etc..  I have to say surround sound is revelatory, It can be so good, so close to the real concert!  The digital PCM sound has become so much more life-like, so 3D, super instrument separation, stunning dynamics and no signs of compression/congestion/distorton at all even with full orchestra. Complex orchestral music works best and really shines.  It almost feels like the stereo sound is a waste of time, Juvenile. 

Balance of the 5-6 speakers is most important. I don't use the digital DSP equalizer for balancing, only analogue fine-tuning from my pre-amp. Since I don't have a single preamp yet, it is a bit of a pain to balance and my power amps are not the same either. But the effect is so good, I won't mind at this time.

 

Macbook/euphony OS ----> MiniDSP DAC8  --->. 3 pre-amp, ----> 3 power amp