Just got a Yggdrasil!

[Samuel T Cogley]

5 minutes ago, hornytoad said:

Still can't hear it. 

 

Me neither.

[crenca]

1 minute ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

HP gear is how I discovered Schiit in the first place.  But I've kind of moved on now.  I have a Lyr 2, and really like it, but I've recently been using Lake People/Violectric gear and find it superior.  I'm not a huge fan of tubes.  I prefer linearity.

 

I am currently using a Schiit saga (mostly to roll tubes and see what happens), but also have moved on from them in the HP space as well.  

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 hour ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

I'm not following you.  Mani did not perform the measurements and has only JA's "reputation" as a measure of accuracy and validity.  They are being presented as "factually correct information", when they could certainly be characterized as, "produced by an industry insider with any number of possible biases".

 

I'm willing to pay to have a Yggy measured by a third party if you have doubts about the measurements. I love the DAC and it helps me realize that certain measurements don't matter to me in my system. 

 

 

 

 

47 minutes ago, hornytoad said:

Mani has said the Chord 2 qute is awesome(and I do believe it is very good ) and said it is better than the Yggy. 

 

I can tell you that I listened to both for over a year and I completely disagree with that assessment as I felt the Yggy was superior in every way. I sold the Chord 2 qute but still liked it.

 

So based on his comparison of these two dacs , I give little weight to his opinions.  

 

 

I like the color red. You like the color blue. Do to this, you give little weight to my opinions. 

 

I encourage you to not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[Samuel T Cogley]

Just now, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I'm willing to pay to have a Yggy measured by a third party if you have doubts about the measurements. I love the DAC and it helps me realize that certain measurements don't matter to me in my system.

 

I'm not following you Chris.  Why would you do that if you don't care?  I don't care either.  But I certainly view anything that comes from JA as suspect.

[manisandher]

21 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

OMFG, it was Mani!  Dude's got a real axe to grind there!

 

Shock, horror! I commented on the Yggy's glitch a year ago! Hang on, I mentioned that in my first post in this thread:

 

On 3/30/2017 at 9:49 AM, manisandher said:

I mentioned the Yggy's zero-crossing glitching a while ago.

 

Old news.

 

Mani.

[Samuel T Cogley]

Just now, manisandher said:

 

Shock, horror! I commented on the Yggy's glitch a year ago!

 

And I remember vividly reading it at the time.  You've got an axe to grind, and you continue to grind it.

 

At least now I understand that you're obsessed with the Yggy for some odd reason.

[The Computer Audiophile]

7 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

I'm not following you Chris.  Why would you do that if you don't care?  I don't care either.  But I certainly view anything that comes from JA as suspect.

 

I just like to make sure we have all the facts with which to work. If there's reason to believe the measurements aren't right, it could be of great service to get them done again. Plus, if these measurements correspond to this sound, people will have this information to help them if they so choose. 

[Samuel T Cogley]

1 minute ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I just like to make sure we have all the facts with which to work. If there's reason to believe the measurements aren't right, it could be of great service to get them done again. Plus, if these measurements correspond to this sound, people will have this information to help them if they so choose. 

 

Do what you gotta do man. 

[manisandher]

3 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

At least now I understand that you're obsessed with the Yggy for some odd reason.

 

The evidence suggests you're wrong:

 

7 hours ago, manisandher said:

I've just done a quick search for recent Schiit threads here. Let's see how many I've actually posted on, shall we?

 

Just got a Yggdrasil!... Yep!

WyrdSchiit... Nah

Schiit Saga vs Freya... Nah.

Schiit multibit Gungnir vs Modi multibit... Nah

Schiit Yggdrasil driver issues... Nah

Schiit Modi 2 Multibit (iFi iPurifier SPDIF)... Nah

Schiit gungnir unrecognized... Nah

Anyone compared the Ayre Codex toSchiit Yggdrasil?... Nah

Advise needed for mySchiit Bifrost... Nah

Ayre Codex andSchiit multi-bit... Nah

Schiit DACs and 24 bit files on a 16 bit DAC... Nah

...

 

Mani.

[hornytoad]

25 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I'm willing to pay to have a Yggy measured by a third party if you have doubts about the measurements. I love the DAC and it helps me realize that certain measurements don't matter to me in my system. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like the color red. You like the color blue. Do to this, you give little weight to my opinions. 

 

I encourage you to not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I give Mani's opinions little weight because I know he is a Schiit hater. 

[The Computer Audiophile]

40 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

 

I'm trying my best to stay on the right side of the "civil" line.  And it's "censored"

 

Typing on a phone can be dangerous for one's future prospects on the spelling bee circuit. 

[hornytoad]

Just now, manisandher said:

 

The evidence suggests you're wrong:

 

 

Mani.

You fail to mention the Chord 2 qute topic......again. 

[Samuel T Cogley]

10 minutes ago, manisandher said:

 

The evidence suggests you're wrong:

 

 

Mani.

 

 

You're just reposting your old post over and over.  I said Yggy, not Schiit.  and you forgot this one:

 

That's the most important one, right?

 

EDIT: By the way, what was all the secrecy around your "reference DAC"?  Are you a DAC manufacturer or designer by any chance?

 

EDIT2: Phasure!  All you guys have been playing me.  Mani is slagging a competitor! And no one thought to speak up?  Wow.

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

@hornytoad Please use the up/down voting system wisely. Voting all @manisandher comments down doesn't help you, doesn't hurt Mani, and doesn't serve any third party well. 

[manisandher]

6 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Plus, if these measurements correspond to this sound, people will have this information to help them if they so choose. 

 

That's all I've tried to do from the outset.

 

Sleep time over this side of the pond. Have fun y'all.

 

Mani.

[hornytoad]

9 minutes ago, manisandher said:

 

The evidence suggests you're wrong:

 

 

Mani.

But Mani fails to post this comment he made in the Chord 2qute thread: 

 

I've just bought a 2Qute to play around with. Wow, what a DAC for the money! Being fed from a Paul Hynes PSU, I strongly prefer the 2Qute to the Schiit Yggy I had here a few months ago - it doesn't make my ears bleed like the Yggy did!

 

But he fails to mention these posts. 

 

I would have thought some of the treble harshness from Chord dacs might do this!

[hornytoad]

Another Mani comment: 

 

  hornytoad said:

In my setup , the Yggy beats the 2 qute easily .

 

Yeah... at glitching maybe ;-) But let's not go there...

 

Horses for courses.

[GUTB]

I don't think anyone hates the Yggdrasil or Schiit in general in this thread. I have noted, however, a tendency to shill for Schiit beyond reason in some Internet communities such as Head-Fi and SBAF. Some people just lose their marbles when design failures and strange measurements are exposed in Schiit products.

 

Was JA being overly harsh when he called the Yggdrasil "obsolete"? I think so, yeah. But, if you take it in context with all the bad measurements, design flaws and falsehoods he's seen out of Schiit, you can appreciate where he was coming from, emotionally.

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 minute ago, GUTB said:

Was JA being overly harsh when he called the Yggdrasil "obsolete"? I think so, yeah. But, if you take it in context with all the bad measurements, design flaws and falsehoods he's seen out of Schiit, you can appreciate where he was coming from, emotionally.

 

We should consider what makes something obsolete in his mind and why. I believe the PCM only, 24/96 max AudioQuest DragonFly is one of his favorites. 

[Speed Racer]

5 minutes ago, GUTB said:

But, if you take it in context with all the bad measurements, design flaws and falsehoods he's seen out of Schiit, you can appreciate where he was coming from, emotionally.

 

Design flaws and falsehoods? Who the hell do you think you are?

[GUTB]

2 minutes ago, Speed Racer said:

 

Design flaws and falsehoods? Who the hell do you think you are?

 

Case in point!

[crenca]

17 minutes ago, GUTB said:

 

Case in point!

 

Lol! Is this thread even real. 

[Samuel T Cogley]

Guys, am I missing something?  Mani is a competitor with Schiit (for DACs) and this is not a significant fact?

[hornytoad]

6 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

Guys, am I missing something?  Mani is a competitor with Schiit (for DACs) and this is not a significant fact?

Yeah you are right . 

[The Computer Audiophile]

9 minutes ago, Samuel T Cogley said:

Guys, am I missing something?  Mani is a competitor with Schiit (for DACs) and this is not a significant fact?

 

3 minutes ago, hornytoad said:

Yeah you are right . 

 

I believe he is a customer, not competitor.