A novel way to massively improve the SQ of computer audio streaming

[PeterSt]

4 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

Could this be even better than eMMC or what? Simply boot the VHD image off USB disk and then unplug that afterwards

 

Diskless Windows 10 PC Setup Procedure

 

 RAM-OS.

 

 

[PeterSt]

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[PeterSt]

1 minute ago, lmitche said:

The mumetal experiments may be a useful way to discover the underlying mechanism, in that mumetal reflects energy back to where it came while lowering radiation levels to the outside.

 

Yes Larry, so much correct you are. And you may have noticed my explicit remark in the webshop that mumetal is *not* used because it would deteriorate SQ.

So I never use mumetal because while it captures the energy indeed, it still needs to get out and this could be through the smallest hole now beaming in that one direction with all its energy. Anway I regard such behavior bad for a cable. But :

 

The fact that it sounds bad, right away also tells something : this should now be about the cable itself radiating - this normally getting out not being harmful to the signal per se (but could now impact other devices / components).

 

7 minutes ago, lmitche said:

the same technique delivers similar impacts across USB cables, DC cables and Ethernet cables.

 

Then again the conclusion of that could be that all "cabling" exhibit similar and that the shielding in similar fashion prevents that sufficiently so whatever is impacted by it (could be your power amp, to name something) now is free of that influence. The more cables treated, the more.

 

It really is interesting, don't you think ?

[PeterSt]

4 hours ago, Bruce Orr said:

read the instructions graciously provided by @austinpop .

 

Hi there @Bruce Orr - we can try to keep it silent, but you know who caused the Lush^2, right ?

(for others : no hidden agenda's anywhere and Bruce, you may not even realize it yourself)

[PeterSt]

20 minutes ago, Bruce Orr said:

We have Inventors, Evaluators, Replicators, Archivers, How-To’ers, Builders, Researchers and then Followers like me!

 

What I love is how things can emerge naturally, if only nobody feels he's the best. This very thread is a testimonial of that. You did not ask for anything, I did not plee for whatever I could have, but because of generosity from any angle imaginable we all live well.

Melangoly ? perhaps. But in this case it is your undertone of helping out someone else with unsurpassed encouragement.

That's how it should be.

 

No more lyrics.

[PeterSt]

1 hour ago, Jud said:

You do realize, don't you, that you're such a nice guy I actually thought "Lost patience? Not possible!", and had to go back and look for it.   

 

Meanwhile, I have managed to tweak Larry's beautifully made cable somehow while connecting/disconnecting some stuff I was trying out to the point where it no longer works, so looks like I'll join the ranks of the JSSG360 DIYers! 

 

There's more fun in these two sentences than you can imagine ... 

[PeterSt]

5 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

Did you try a distro that's running entirely from RAM? The real test could very well be comparing the latency of RAM versus that of Optane IMHO.

 

Maybe you remember I gave you a link about the "RAM-OS Disk". Possibly you did not see through it or thought I gave you a stupid SSD (indeed it was an SSD version I showed). Here the text which comes along with the HDD version of it - possibly it emphasizes the thing better :

 

Each OS can boot from RAM (all via remote control) and after that the HDD can be removed from the PC, with the idea that the PC contains nothing else. This improves Sound Quality largely (electrical noise is minimized).

 

Or maybe you want to do it all yourself ? I mean, it is a bit strange to see a 1000 links from you about the theoretical means while practice is just at your feet (in use by 100s of people for quite some years by now).

 

 

If you tell us that you are not interested in a commercial solution (because that's what it is) then at least I know that you understood it and read it. 

Btw, took about a year to develop with some pause-hurdles. But if you think this is stealing money from you ... I am fine with that thought. If it is regarded too much of a self-advertising, then I am also fine with that (and the post should be deleted). But I created it all for the better sound. And no ( @lmitche ), PXE boot did not do that.

 

Peter

[PeterSt]

1 hour ago, greenleo said:

Thank you Larry.  Indeed the model was crude, and in a way similar to comparing the importance of a DAC to a streamer which are complimentary, not directly comparable.

 

Hi. I am not following this thread (too noisy - haha) but by accident clicked on something that made me read this. From there I saw this:

 

2 hours ago, lmitche said:

The server adds density and weight where a poorly size server makes the sound more thin, so it is tough to hear the contrast and transients.

 

I already quoted this text and wanted to respond to the emphasized text. Then I saw the text behind it and noticed what I wanted to say is actually already there. Here goes anyway, but in my own words:

 

What you guys call the server - and which for me would be the Audio Playing PC (nothing connected to it but the DAC over USB and a deadened Ethernet after loading the music to ram over it, in advance of playback - the whole OS running from RAM anyway):

 

makes or breaks the playback for speed. What I want to say with this is that since I focused on the PC for sheer speed in its (power supply) response, the transients are ab-normally coming through throughout. This expresses in the mid and lower. I call it crazy squary sound but with some more sense: electric butterflies and electrifying. This latter is almost literal (try the track by this name ("Electrified") from Yello and you should be sufficiently placebo'd to get what I mean).

So for months now I am screaming that the PC is far more important than the DAC, which seems unbelievable to myself. I can refer to our own DAC only, but I think it will be general consensus. In addition I can say that this DAC is made for sheer speed to begin with, and thus it is extra strange that the PC can so much unleash it, what I did not know myself say 10 years ago (when the DAC was first developed).

 

The JSSG-360 stuff is highly related too (it won't do this really without such cabling).

 

I dare to dedicate 90% to the server and 10% to the DAC.

or

40% to the server, 50% to the cabling (I don't fool with power cords yet) and 10% to the DAC.

 

This is so out of this world and contradictory to what I would have thought for the whole of my life (even pre-DAC era) until only 6 months or so ago, that I am sure there comes a time that this thread will be the most valuable of all, to all.

And I indeed don't even follow it (but live by it in parallel ?).

[PeterSt]

4 hours ago, austinpop said:

I think you should just accept that as a dealer, you cannot escape the reality that whenever you talk about a product you sell or promote, you will be viewed as biased. That's life.

 

@andervt, I think if you read this 5 times or so, you maybe start to see the intelligence of the remark. The "that's life" is not figurative. It's how it works.

 

3 hours ago, Superdad said:

The trick for me is avoiding posting about listening impressions [...]

 

I was reading through the/your last posts and I had the same impression (sitting back and thinking over how it actually works). Also see the [...] I put there, because I like to leave that out for something to agree with (facts in audio ?? - haha).

 

But now some counterweight ...

 

Terje did not sign up this January, but two years before that.

With a stubborn face Terje declared that nobody would have found him or his company when looking for feet. And indeed it is so that right after announcing them he proposed a cheaper DIY solution (I read it, and I plainly read it like that). But try Google. And try it with SOtM if you still have the urge.

Terje is a customer. Hahaha.

 

And you know, it indeed works better if you know what your market is, and this is about competition. No wait, they are your friends. Approach it like that almost explicitly, works better. Don't be stubborn about it. Here, came in during typing of this:

 

 

As if the devil plays with it (as we say it over here). Not even opened yet (but knowing the contents). Possibly you won't understand. Quite a few others will. @Superdad most certainly will. The history behind this works for life. Everybody should "behave" like that, although it feels quite counter productive. It is not. So Terje, IMO it is best not to further defend yourself as you seem only to be stubborn which is very OK, but now it hurts you which is not OK for you. OK ? 

 

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Indeed it is not easy. People regularly ask me for advice which more often is about third party products than about our own (odd to begin with). Someone in this thread will recognize that he did so, only 48 hours ago. I gave a brief response and thought to leave it at that. It is about virtual competition and I was negative about it. Now I am asked to elaborate if possible. I did not yet because this is hard. And this is even in PM fashion, so go figure (but it could even be more hard). Suddenly there is a relation to your posts, Terje, which I only learned of right now. At least I see the relation, maybe it is unintentional. What if I would have elaborated with my own objective ideas / experiences not knowing the context, which next will always fire back somehow (because it will hurt someone).

It is better never to be negative, never mind you could be. And that small picture I injected above, in the end is about the same. This is about millions and millions of dollars. Better be friends instead of debunking a product, never mind how much you think it is justified.

 

Rajiv, sorry to mess with your thread !