Hailey Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 My subtantially modified Mac Mini just quit. Kaput. Dead. As T've already invested in Audirvana, a Thunderbolt external drive, and UpTone Audio's MMK linear power supply filter, I'm inclined to go out and source another Mac Mini. Or should I just turn the page and get a microRendu instead? I'm still not sure I understand precisely how a microRendu is controlled. But I'll figure it out if I have to. Thoughts anyone? Link to comment
wgscott Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Just out of curiosity, what parts were modified, and what are the symptoms of death? (i.e., is it the original power supply, does it make the startup chime but never boot, does it fail to find the disk, or just behave like it is unplugged)? Personally, I would get a new mini. But it might be worth finding out if the modifier warranties their modifications (if applicable). Link to comment
Paul R Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I agree with Bill - I would go for a new Mini. The problem is that the new tech Mini's may not be modifiable if you feel you really need that. On the other hand, depending upon how old your Mini is, you might not need those mods. -Paul Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Hailey Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 I did the modifications. They consisted of swapping out the spinner for an SDD and swapping out the internal switching power supply for the MMK filter. It's just dead dead. Won't turn on. Reinstalled the original internal PSU. Still nothing Link to comment
alfe Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I have a heavily modified one, power supply,cooling even the ram and the hard disk are prototypes, but still running just like a Panzer tank. Check I'm sure you can bring it back to life. Link to comment
wgscott Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Reinstalled the original internal PSU. Still nothing That was the only suggestion I had left. Bummer. Link to comment
Hailey Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 And it was only four months old. But the warranty is scorched, of course. In hindsight, may not have been worth it... Link to comment
davide256 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 You would still need a file server with the mRendu...hopefully your Mac can be resuscitated Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
mansr Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 It's probably a power issue even if the original PSU doesn't work. Check for bulging electrolytic capacitors anywhere in the system. That's by far the most common cause of sudden failure to power up. Link to comment
Hailey Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 Where would I find the electrolytic capacitors? Link to comment
alfe Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Check DC side of the motherboard with a voltmeter to find out if it's powered. Link to comment
wgscott Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 And it was only four months old. But the warranty is scorched, of course. In hindsight, may not have been worth it... I'd put all the original parts back in and take it back to Apple. I had them try to tell me putting extra memory in my computer ruined the hard drive. So take anything extra out. Link to comment
mansr Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Where would I find the electrolytic capacitors? This is an example of dead electrolytic caps. The two big ones to the right are bad, the rest are OK. Link to comment
Paul R Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 And it was only four months old. But the warranty is scorched, of course. In hindsight, may not have been worth it... Four months old? Put the drive and power supply back in and haul it to an Apple Store. Look innocent. -Paul Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Hailey Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 I'd put all the original parts back in and take it back to Apple. I had them try to tell me putting extra memory in my computer ruined the hard drive. So take anything extra out. Good idea Link to comment
baddog Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Try plugging it into a different outlet in the house as well. Try booting it without the external hard drive connected. I assume you have a monitor attached - no boot chime - nothing displayed on screen? Also make sure the RAM is seated properly if it is user installable RAM. What year and model is the Mac Mini? Do you only have one hard drive in it ( the SSD )? You could try swapping in the one you in the Mac Mini originally. Do you have any other Mac's in the household? You could try making a bootable USB stick and see if it boots from that. Just some thoughts. It could be that the logic board is dead and needs replacement. Silver Circle Audio | Roon | Devialet | Synology | Vivid Audio | Stillpoint Aperture | Auralic | DH Labs Link to comment
Hailey Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 [ATTACH]28403[/ATTACH] This is an example of dead electrolytic caps. The two big ones to the right are bad, the rest are OK. Interesting. Thanks Link to comment
esldude Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Four months old? Put the drive and power supply back in and haul it to an Apple Store. Look innocent. -Paul I don't know. The innocent hopeful attitude might be a tip off to the geniuses. Seems like a real Mac owner with an early death Mini might come in a bit frustrated (not pissed off, that would displease the Apple gods), be a little bit demanding they make it right (after all is this Apple or some cheap google Chromey thing here?), and then be grateful when they act as if they might replace it as no big deal with apologies of the genius. And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
Hailey Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 I don't know. The innocent hopeful attitude might be a tip off to the geniuses. Seems like a real Mac owner with an early death Mini might come in a bit frustrated (not pissed off, that would displease the Apple gods), be a little bit demanding they make it right (after all is this Apple or some cheap google Chromey thing here?), and then be grateful when they act as if they might replace it as no big deal with apologies of the genius. It's a fair point. And I'm a terrible liar. I just realized I have a 2011 Mac Pro Tower (twin Xeons!) doing nothing at all. Why don't I requisition that? I can't use my thunderbolt external drives but the beast has four drive bays or something. So why not? Link to comment
wouterk Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Could also be a generic fault on the motherboard- an expensive repair for my 2.5 y old iMac. Link to comment
Hailey Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 Sold the non-functioning Mac Mini to a hobbyist, then sourced an open-box late-2014 Mac Mini, i7 3.0 ghz, 8 gb RAM. 1 TB PCIE (not fusion drive, it's a 1 TB PCIE drive). Three years Apple Care. I should be good for a while, no? Link to comment
Paul R Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I don't know. The innocent hopeful attitude might be a tip off to the geniuses. Seems like a real Mac owner with an early death Mini might come in a bit frustrated (not pissed off, that would displease the Apple gods), be a little bit demanding they make it right (after all is this Apple or some cheap google Chromey thing here?), and then be grateful when they act as if they might replace it as no big deal with apologies of the genius. As opposed to say, getting a lapip fixed at Best Buy? Getting grilled by some pimply faced adolescent with attitude isn't my thing. Doubtful they would even ask at the Apple Store, just replace it with a new one. (Grin) Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
baddog Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Sold the non-functioning Mac Mini to a hobbyist, then sourced an open-box late-2014 Mac Mini, i7 3.0 ghz, 8 gb RAM. 1 TB PCIE (not fusion drive, it's a 1 TB PCIE drive). Three years Apple Care. I should be good for a while, no? Indeed you should! Silver Circle Audio | Roon | Devialet | Synology | Vivid Audio | Stillpoint Aperture | Auralic | DH Labs Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Sold the non-functioning Mac Mini to a hobbyist, then sourced an open-box late-2014 Mac Mini, i7 3.0 ghz, 8 gb RAM. 1 TB PCIE (not fusion drive, it's a 1 TB PCIE drive). Three years Apple Care. I should be good for a while, no? I see I am late with my two cents, anyway – I had problem of non-functioning mac mini after modification of power supply couple of years ago. I even sent external PSU back to check. Check was ok, and the reason was weak contact which was accidentally unsoldered after modifying. Link to comment
orgel Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It's a fair point. And I'm a terrible liar. I just realized I have a 2011 Mac Pro Tower (twin Xeons!) doing nothing at all. Why don't I requisition that? I can't use my thunderbolt external drives but the beast has four drive bays or something. So why not? A lot of Thunderbolt drives have an eSATA port. If that's the case, you can get a cheap eSATA card for the Mac Pro. Something like this or this would work well. Not quite as fast as Thunderbolt, but plenty good enough for music playback, etc. (But the internal bays are also good.) --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
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