shadowlight Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 In my efforts to tame Windows 10 for audio, I uncovered many OS processes constantly writing log files, from the kernel up through and including dozens of service processes. Would you be willing to share how you disabled the writing to log files? Link to comment
lmitche Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Yes, I am happy to share. It's a set of Windows registry changes. I just have to find my notes, so expect the details tomorrow. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
shadowlight Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Yes, I am happy to share. It's a set of Windows registry changes. I just have to find my notes, so expect the details tomorrow. Thank You. Link to comment
lmitche Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Would you be willing to share how you disabled the writing to log files? OK Here you go! These are the registry entries I referred to. One can use REGEDIT to make these changes. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM \CurrentControlSet \Control \WMI \Autologger Setting "start" to 0 in each entry disables the log. There are many loggers. Once all are set to 0, reboot. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
rickca Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Thanks, Larry. I assume those logs are required only for troubleshooting so there's no downside to disabling logging other than loss of diagnostic information? Windows 10 is a moving target. Getting it to shut up and just do what you want is like playing whack-a-mole. I'm considering removing all the modern UI apps except for the Windows Store itself. It seems this would eliminate a bunch of unnecessary activity. I know there are scripts to do this with PowerShell, but has anyone tried just using the CCleaner uninstall tool? Nvidia has introduced telemetry in its recent drivers. I even found ongoing network activity due to a Canon device driver for a scanner. It's like a full time job. Maybe I should give that job to AudioPhil? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
lmitche Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Thanks, Larry. I assume those logs are required only for troubleshooting so there's no downside to disabling logging other than loss of diagnostic information? Windows 10 is a moving target. Getting it to shut up and just do what you want is like playing whack-a-mole. I'm considering removing all the modern UI apps except for the Windows Store itself. It seems this would eliminate a bunch of unnecessary activity. I know there are scripts to do this with PowerShell, but has anyone tried just using the CCleaner uninstall tool? Nvidia has introduced telemetry in its recent drivers. I even found ongoing network activity due to a Canon device driver for a scanner. It's like a full time job. Maybe I should give that job to AudioPhil? Rick, LOL! Yes, well said, a full-time job indeed. Linux should be the answer but the native DSD implementation is so bad that it's unusable. I feel we are between a rock and a hard place! Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
Theobetley Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 OK Here you go! These are the registry entries I referred to. One can use REGEDIT to make these changes. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM \CurrentControlSet \Control \WMI \Autologger Setting "start" to 0 in each entry disables the log. There are many loggers. Once all are set to 0, reboot. What a great tweak. Sounds louder, more distinct, dynamic et al. Thanks Lmitche! Got any more you want to share? Link to comment
Lionelh2 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Thanks, Larry. Can't wait to get home and try this tweak. Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile PS Audio P5 Power Plant>HQ Player Mac Book Pro BootCamp Win10>NAA Mac Mini BootCamp Win 10>REGEN Green>REGEN Amber>IFI iDSD Micro>BHSE>Stax SR-009 Link to comment
lmitche Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 What a great tweak. Sounds louder, more distinct, dynamic et al. Thanks Lmitche! Got any more you want to share? Yes, left idle, Windows will just play with itself logging things even though no useful work is being done for an end user. This tweak stops the worst of this. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
John769 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Yes, left idle, Windows will just play with itself logging things even though no useful work is being done for an end user. This tweak stops the worst of this. Can this tweek be applied to Server R2/ AO/ Core or not necessary/ already catered for? Link to comment
lmitche Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I don't know, I only run Win 10 here. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
shadowlight Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 OK Here you go! These are the registry entries I referred to. One can use REGEDIT to make these changes. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM \CurrentControlSet \Control \WMI \Autologger Setting "start" to 0 in each entry disables the log. There are many loggers. Once all are set to 0, reboot. Thank you for the settings. Link to comment
shadowlight Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Thanks to everyone who has contributed towards the common goal of optimizing the Win10 for audio. Based on the contribution I have taken the liberty to write some Power Shell code to automate some of the manual steps. Before using the code please make sure to have a good backup/restore in case something goes wrong. Use the code at your own risk and please do not hold me accountable if the code breaks your setup. It requires Power Shell to be run in "run as administrator mode" Part of the code includes how to capture running service and restore them back to that state in case some of the later setup went wrong. win_opt.txt Link to comment
edbk Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 Nice Job! [emoji106] I'd like to add that this needs reading/editing before applying, specifically the tcp/ip section [emoji41] Sent from my iPhone using Computer Audiophile Link to comment
lmitche Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hi shadowlight, Thanks for creating this script. Reading it, I see some new things and some familiar things. I look forward to applying the new things and hearing the results in my system. One quick question. I play music served from my Linux NAS via SMB/NMB. Will that continue to work if the following scriptlet is run? # Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP, WINS and Support for LMHost file# $adapter.SetTcpipNetbios(2) $nic = [wmiclass]'Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration' $nic.enablewins($false,$false) Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
rickca Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 @shadowlight re cortana read the following article Why Is Cortana Still Running in the Background After You Disable It? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
shadowlight Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hi shadowlight, Thanks for creating this script. Reading it, I see some new things and some familiar things. I look forward to applying the new things and hearing the results in my system. One quick question. I play music served from my Linux NAS via SMB/NMB. Will that continue to work if the following scriptlet is run? # Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP, WINS and Support for LMHost file# $adapter.SetTcpipNetbios(2) $nic = [wmiclass]'Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration' $nic.enablewins($false,$false) Larry, I am not sure, since I do not have a Linux NAS (SAMBA) but I am able to map drives on a Windows Server with out any issues and all off my systems have WINS and LMHost disabled. The change is easy to revert back manually if it does not work. Just go to network adapter settings - Internet Protocol Version 4 - Properties -- Advanced -- WINS and select "Enable LMHosts Lookup" and "Default". I believe you are using a Archlinux based NAS? Is it just a simple SAMBA based setup? If yes, I will see if I can build out a VM system and test. Link to comment
shadowlight Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 @shadowlight re cortana read the following article Why Is Cortana Still Running in the Background After You Disable It? Thx for the pointer. I still want to use the windows application search function, so I will not rename the Cortana folder. Link to comment
lmitche Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Larry,I am not sure, since I do not have a Linux NAS (SAMBA) but I am able to map drives on a Windows Server with out any issues and all off my systems have WINS and LMHost disabled. The change is easy to revert back manually if it does not work. Just go to network adapter settings - Internet Protocol Version 4 - Properties -- Advanced -- WINS and select "Enable LMHosts Lookup" and "Default". I believe you are using a Archlinux based NAS? Is it just a simple SAMBA based setup? If yes, I will see if I can build out a VM system and test. Hi shadowlight, No worries, all is working well. Here are the results with Roonserver and HQplayer running, (after some manual finessing!). Thanks to everyone for their contributions! Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
shadowlight Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Nice. I still need to figure out why I still have 37 processes running on Win10 compared to everyone reporting around 24. What manually finessing did you have to do? If possible I would like to correct that in the script. Link to comment
rickca Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I just discovered this free program today. It looks pretty powerful but I haven't tried it yet. Get Blackbird - Windows privacy, security and performance Here's another one. It doesn't seem as comprehensive, but it sure has a good name. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
lmitche Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Nice. I still need to figure out why I still have 37 processes running on Win10 compared to everyone reporting around 24. What manually finessing did you have to do? If possible I would like to correct that in the script. For my last Win10 install, I ran edbk's script and parts of your script found above. Once done, I follow with execution of AO ultimate, the included Win10 stripping script and ST shell replacement to Roonserver. After boot, I get this: From there, using task manager, I manually stop process and services to reach the following running state. Lastly I set HQPlayer to run in realtime priority. Kinda a PITA at each boot, but worth the 30 seconds it takes to execute. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
dtb300 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Lastly I set HQPlayer to run in realtime priority. Kinda a PITA at each boot, but worth the 30 seconds it takes to execute. FYI - In case you were not aware. Process Lasso can do this for you and settings stay at reboot. DTB Rig: https://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/9648.html Link to comment
rickca Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Microsoft currently runs several services under a given svchost process. That is going to change, and you may see many more svchost processes running. See 'Service Hosts are split into separate processes' in the Build 14942 Insider Preview https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/10/07/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14942-for-pc/#rS4K0cooPeM3PFTR.97 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
lmitche Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Here is a nice little registry hack! Please let me know if you like it! HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\SettingSync\EnableBackupForWin8Apps = 0 Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
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