lmitche Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hi Lm, Are you saying archlinux with real time extensions sounds better then win10? Not at all, Archlinux is just more convenient for now. I'm waiting for AO Win 10, then I'll switch back. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
edbk Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 Ah ok, been 3 years or so since I last tried some linux variations, settled on windows server 2012. To answer an earlier question, to my ears windows 10 is much better then server 2012. Link to comment
polmann Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Has anyone done an A/B comparison with server 2012R2? Link to comment
ampsarus Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Any pc tech in the Los Angeles area that can do these optimizations on a win7 desktop for pizza or pay or pizza and pay please pm me. Andrew Bacon 'if it aint broke take it apart and find out why' Link to comment
Leonard Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Thank you so much edbk for sharing your optimization scripts and knowledge with us!!! :-) It really helped me quickly improving the sound of my streamer. I agree with you that Windows10 sounds better than 2012R2 (although haven't tried running it in core mode). Link to comment
edbk Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 You're welcome ? core mode doesnt save server 2012 from biting the dust in my system ? Link to comment
polmann Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Has anyone had problem after running the powershell commends from page 9 in the word document from post #9? For some reason i get an error with my network connection where it says that the dependency services or group failed to start. Link to comment
polmann Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 And by actually reading through this thread i found the answer :-) Link to comment
edbk Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 Selfserviced, excellent ? Link to comment
Lauritsvd Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hi edbk. I removed some lines in your script, to suit my set up of : BubbleDS, minimserver,JPlay (streamer). Runnig headless or/and with at tablet (BubbleDS). It works very well, with fewer things running, and sounding great, with very natural sound:-) #Disable Optional Features - check enabled features with: Get-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Printing-Foundation-InternetPrinting-Client -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName FaxServicesClientPackage -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Printing-Foundation-Features -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Xps-Foundation-Xps-Viewer -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName MediaPlayback -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName WindowsMediaPlayer -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Printing-PrintToPDFServices-Features -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Printing-XPSServices-Features -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName WorkFolders-Client -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName WCF-Services45 -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName WCF-TCP-PortSharing45 -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName NetFx4-AdvSrvs -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName MSRDC-Infrastructure -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName SearchEngine-Client-Package -Remove -NoRestart #Disable various Disable-WindowsErrorReporting Disable-AppBackgroundTaskDiagnosticLog #Disable Provisioned Apps -check installed apps with: Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -online Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -online #Disable Apps -check installed apps with: Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers Get-AppXPackage | Remove-AppxPackage #Disable Services -check running services with: Get-Service | Where-Object {$_.status -eq "running"} Set-Service AudioSrv -StartupType disabled Set-Service AudioEndpointBuilder -StartupType disabled Set-Service AppXSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service BITS -StartupType disabled Set-Service BFE -StartupType disabled Set-Service CertPropSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service BITS -StartupType disabled Set-Service BFE -StartupType disabled Set-Service CertPropSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service CryptSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service defragsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service DsmSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service dmwappushservice -StartupType disabled Set-Service DoSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service DPS -StartupType disabled Set-Service DiagTrack -StartupType disabled Set-Service diagnosticshub.standardcollector.service -StartupType disabled Set-Service gpsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service igfxCUIService1.0.0.0 -StartupType disabled Set-Service lfsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service LicenseManager -StartupType disabled Set-Service MapsBroker -StartupType disabled Set-Service MpsSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service PcaSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service swprv -StartupType disabled Set-Service SSDPSRV -StartupType disabled Set-Service StateRepository -StartupType disabled Set-Service Themes -StartupType disabled Set-Service TabletInputService -StartupType disabled Set-Service TrkWks -StartupType disabled Set-Service WdiServiceHost -StartupType disabled Set-Service WdiSystemHost -StartupType disabled Set-Service Wecsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service WerSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service WinDefend -StartupType disabled Set-Service WdNisSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service WinHttpAutoProxySvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service wscsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service wuauserv -StartupType disabled Set-Service WSearch -StartupType disabled Asus Prime-P z590 MB. Intel Core i5 11400 , Jcat usb XE Pci-usb card. Intel Optane m2 with Euphony Stylus software. And running Ramrod. Jcat Femto Netcard. HDPlex linear w300, HDPlex 400 atx, HDPlex H5 case. MPAudio SLS-hpuln with JCat Optimo Nano Powering the Jcat XE pcie-usb card. Farad 3 lpsu powering the Netcard femto. 2 Buffalo 2008 switch. One stock, and one Buffalo 2008 switch with NewclassD Neutron star Clock powered by MPAudio SLS-hpuln, Voltcraft fps_1132 lpsu Powering the fibernet box, and first Buffalo 2008 switch. With a Idovr regulator. Link to comment
edbk Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Nice, thanks for your feedback. Glad you're enjoying the results! Link to comment
NAIDIVER Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hi edbk. I removed some lines in your script, to suit my set up of : BubbleDS, minimserver,JPlay (streamer). Runnig headless or/and with at tablet (BubbleDS). It works very well, with fewer things running, and sounding great, with very natural sound:-) #Disable Optional Features - check enabled features with: Get-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Printing-Foundation-InternetPrinting-Client -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName FaxServicesClientPackage -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Printing-Foundation-Features -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Xps-Foundation-Xps-Viewer -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName MediaPlayback -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName WindowsMediaPlayer -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Printing-PrintToPDFServices-Features -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Printing-XPSServices-Features -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName WorkFolders-Client -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName WCF-Services45 -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName WCF-TCP-PortSharing45 -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName NetFx4-AdvSrvs -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName MSRDC-Infrastructure -Remove -NoRestart Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName SearchEngine-Client-Package -Remove -NoRestart #Disable various Disable-WindowsErrorReporting Disable-AppBackgroundTaskDiagnosticLog #Disable Provisioned Apps -check installed apps with: Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -online Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -online #Disable Apps -check installed apps with: Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers Get-AppXPackage | Remove-AppxPackage #Disable Services -check running services with: Get-Service | Where-Object {$_.status -eq "running"} Set-Service AudioSrv -StartupType disabled Set-Service AudioEndpointBuilder -StartupType disabled Set-Service AppXSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service BITS -StartupType disabled Set-Service BFE -StartupType disabled Set-Service CertPropSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service BITS -StartupType disabled Set-Service BFE -StartupType disabled Set-Service CertPropSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service CryptSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service defragsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service DsmSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service dmwappushservice -StartupType disabled Set-Service DoSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service DPS -StartupType disabled Set-Service DiagTrack -StartupType disabled Set-Service diagnosticshub.standardcollector.service -StartupType disabled Set-Service gpsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service igfxCUIService1.0.0.0 -StartupType disabled Set-Service lfsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service LicenseManager -StartupType disabled Set-Service MapsBroker -StartupType disabled Set-Service MpsSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service PcaSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service swprv -StartupType disabled Set-Service SSDPSRV -StartupType disabled Set-Service StateRepository -StartupType disabled Set-Service Themes -StartupType disabled Set-Service TabletInputService -StartupType disabled Set-Service TrkWks -StartupType disabled Set-Service WdiServiceHost -StartupType disabled Set-Service WdiSystemHost -StartupType disabled Set-Service Wecsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service WerSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service WinDefend -StartupType disabled Set-Service WdNisSvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service WinHttpAutoProxySvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service wscsvc -StartupType disabled Set-Service wuauserv -StartupType disabled Set-Service WSearch -StartupType disabled Hi edbk Thanks for your generosity. I'v ever tried scripts like this (posted by... Ummm sorry. i forgot.. ^#^). I found the problem is some function seem doesn't work correctly. but for your posted above, i feel happy that it will work well with JPLAY so that's good news for me. By the way.. Can i request the scripts for roll all the things back to default values. I've experienced stuck into some function which doesn't work and nothing i can do. finally i have to reinstall OS. It's scary to deal with it. Now i use AO instead. It's good for a not IT guy like me. DAC - Mytek Brooklyn, Intona High Speed Isolator.Int.Amp - ATC SIA2 150,SP - ATC SCM19, Sub - Paradigm SW2200 Source - Audio PC, Core i7 4785T 2.2Ghz, 8G PPA RAM, Samsung 850pro , WD Black HDD, JCAT USB card, PPA BLACK SATA Cable, HDPLEX H5 gen2 case, LPSu - Uptone JS-2 for DAC and USB Card - TeraDak ATX350W for PC, OS wins2012R2, Audio Optimizer, Fidelizer Pro, ASIO JPLAY, Foobar2000+Ramdisk, Hq player, SP cable - JPS superconductor2, Analog interconnect - Harmornic Tech Magic link III, USB cable - JCAT twin cable, Power cable - JPS kaptivator for Uptone JS-2 forDAC and USB card, Wireworld electra7 for PC, Wireworld electra7 silver for Amp, Magnet 2000 power line stabilzer and conditioner for DAC,PC Link to comment
ElviaCaprice Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Who needs to rollback anything? That is why I partition a drive for duel operating systems. One partition for optimized audio/video playback via JRiver and nothing else. (JRiver) Jetway barebones NUC (mod 3 sCLK-EX, Cybershaft OP 14) (PH SR7) => mini pcie adapter to PCIe 1X => tXUSBexp PCIe card (mod sCLK-EX) (PH SR7) => (USPCB) Chord DAVE => Omega Super 8XRS/REL t5i (All powered thru Topaz Isolation Transformer) Link to comment
ElviaCaprice Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Selfserviced, excellent Do you find any difference with AO Windows 10 SQ over your script/optimization? (JRiver) Jetway barebones NUC (mod 3 sCLK-EX, Cybershaft OP 14) (PH SR7) => mini pcie adapter to PCIe 1X => tXUSBexp PCIe card (mod sCLK-EX) (PH SR7) => (USPCB) Chord DAVE => Omega Super 8XRS/REL t5i (All powered thru Topaz Isolation Transformer) Link to comment
edbk Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hi edbkThanks for your generosity. I'v ever tried scripts like this (posted by... Ummm sorry. i forgot.. ^#^). I found the problem is some function seem doesn't work correctly. but for your posted above, i feel happy that it will work well with JPLAY so that's good news for me. By the way.. Can i request the scripts for roll all the things back to default values. I've experienced stuck into some function which doesn't work and nothing i can do. finally i have to reinstall OS. It's scary to deal with it. Now i use AO instead. It's good for a not IT guy like me. No plans to create a rollback version Do you find any difference with AO Windows 10 SQ over your script/optimization? Havent compared [emoji12] Link to comment
lmitche Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Over here both AO 10beta 7 Windows stripping and edbk scripts have been run. From there the logging is turned off to the furthest extent possible. Autoruns is then used to remove unnecessary drivers. On each boot the remaining unneeded processes and service are killed manually. Windows 10 ends up consuming 700 mbs of memory, with 26 processes running with Jplay and Minimserver/Minimstreamer resampling with Libsoxr. SQ is very clean, high and deep. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
lmitche Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Many thanks to edbk, Eurodriver, AudioPhil, Alex C and John S, and the Jplay guys for helping me achieve the sound quality I am enjoying today. I have a system that exceeds my highest expectations of what is possible in every way. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
ElviaCaprice Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 With just the script and some further modifications brought up in this thread, I have 1 app running only, JRiver, 9 background processes, 23 Windows processes. For audio playback in JRiver I'm at 0% CPU usage, 5% memory. JRiver uses about 90mb of memory (I set playback from memory). Windows and all other processes use about 80mb of memory. I don't use anything else but JRiver. SQ is excellent, no complaints. How would I know what sounds better if I've never heard it before, which I haven't. I probably won't use AO Windows 10 once publicly released. I would imagine it is only achieving what I already have done in optimizing Windows 10 thanks to edbk help. I like the fact that my Windows 10 optimized OS loads in seconds when powered up. (JRiver) Jetway barebones NUC (mod 3 sCLK-EX, Cybershaft OP 14) (PH SR7) => mini pcie adapter to PCIe 1X => tXUSBexp PCIe card (mod sCLK-EX) (PH SR7) => (USPCB) Chord DAVE => Omega Super 8XRS/REL t5i (All powered thru Topaz Isolation Transformer) Link to comment
edbk Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Thanks for all the positive feedback! I do have some plans to have a deepdive into the registry and create a policy settings template but am lacking the time needed for this right now [emoji28] Link to comment
NAIDIVER Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm appreciated so much of what edbk did for us. I'm a big fan of him now. ^#^ but other than this (OS striped down), i think bios optimized for audio is also important. I think... No way to get the best sound without it. I really meant it. What do you think? Who ever experienced this,could you please share it for us? Thanks... DAC - Mytek Brooklyn, Intona High Speed Isolator.Int.Amp - ATC SIA2 150,SP - ATC SCM19, Sub - Paradigm SW2200 Source - Audio PC, Core i7 4785T 2.2Ghz, 8G PPA RAM, Samsung 850pro , WD Black HDD, JCAT USB card, PPA BLACK SATA Cable, HDPLEX H5 gen2 case, LPSu - Uptone JS-2 for DAC and USB Card - TeraDak ATX350W for PC, OS wins2012R2, Audio Optimizer, Fidelizer Pro, ASIO JPLAY, Foobar2000+Ramdisk, Hq player, SP cable - JPS superconductor2, Analog interconnect - Harmornic Tech Magic link III, USB cable - JCAT twin cable, Power cable - JPS kaptivator for Uptone JS-2 forDAC and USB card, Wireworld electra7 for PC, Wireworld electra7 silver for Amp, Magnet 2000 power line stabilzer and conditioner for DAC,PC Link to comment
Deaf Cat Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I disabled all i could in the bios when on win8, including USB which also improved things - every little helps :-) (I use a SBT so ethernet out from the pc) Now on 'pain' win10, yes the sound is better with edbk's tweeks (many many thanks :-D), but my ps2 keyboard won't stay on line, so have had to use usb keyboard for the time being... Has anyone worked out how to disable perminantly and safely :-0 the auto win10 update? Cheers Link to comment
ElviaCaprice Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I disabled all i could in the bios when on win8, including USB which also improved things - every little helps :-)(I use a SBT so ethernet out from the pc) Now on 'pain' win10, yes the sound is better with edbk's tweeks (many many thanks :-D), but my ps2 keyboard won't stay on line, so have had to use usb keyboard for the time being... Has anyone worked out how to disable perminantly and safely :-0 the auto win10 update? Cheers Isn't a problem here, I dumped Windows defender and most of the Runtime broker (a big culprit in bad SQ). Plus I never connect to the internet with my optimized Windows 10 partition, disabled. (JRiver) Jetway barebones NUC (mod 3 sCLK-EX, Cybershaft OP 14) (PH SR7) => mini pcie adapter to PCIe 1X => tXUSBexp PCIe card (mod sCLK-EX) (PH SR7) => (USPCB) Chord DAVE => Omega Super 8XRS/REL t5i (All powered thru Topaz Isolation Transformer) Link to comment
dean70 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Leaving Windows Explorer running can effect sound quality. Try Ctrl+Shift+Alt right click on Taskbar, then Exit Explorer. To relaunch, press Ctrl+Shift+Esc to launch Task Manager, then select File/Run + type explorer.exe to relaunch. Alchemy Desktop http://www.origen.net.au/Alchemy/ Link to comment
NAIDIVER Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Leaving Windows Explorer running can effect sound quality. Try Ctrl+Shift+Alt right click on Taskbar, then Exit Explorer. To relaunch, press Ctrl+Shift+Esc to launch Task Manager, then select File/Run + type explorer.exe to relaunch. Thanks Dean Will try it. DAC - Mytek Brooklyn, Intona High Speed Isolator.Int.Amp - ATC SIA2 150,SP - ATC SCM19, Sub - Paradigm SW2200 Source - Audio PC, Core i7 4785T 2.2Ghz, 8G PPA RAM, Samsung 850pro , WD Black HDD, JCAT USB card, PPA BLACK SATA Cable, HDPLEX H5 gen2 case, LPSu - Uptone JS-2 for DAC and USB Card - TeraDak ATX350W for PC, OS wins2012R2, Audio Optimizer, Fidelizer Pro, ASIO JPLAY, Foobar2000+Ramdisk, Hq player, SP cable - JPS superconductor2, Analog interconnect - Harmornic Tech Magic link III, USB cable - JCAT twin cable, Power cable - JPS kaptivator for Uptone JS-2 forDAC and USB card, Wireworld electra7 for PC, Wireworld electra7 silver for Amp, Magnet 2000 power line stabilzer and conditioner for DAC,PC Link to comment
ElviaCaprice Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Leaving Windows Explorer running can effect sound quality. Try Ctrl+Shift+Alt right click on Taskbar, then Exit Explorer. To relaunch, press Ctrl+Shift+Esc to launch Task Manager, then select File/Run + type explorer.exe to relaunch. Tried it Dean, didn't notice any difference in SQ. Obviously it's best to disable any unnecessary processes in the OS (small inconvenience to turn on and off for JRiver screen). Especially the ones causing any memory or CPU spikes in usage other than your media playback. I don't notice much in usage for the Windows Explorer process in task manager, seems fairly stable. But then I disabled Runtime broker and that may have fed into the Windows Explorer process. Thus those of you unable to disable runtime broker without losing necessary OS functions might find this step useful. (JRiver) Jetway barebones NUC (mod 3 sCLK-EX, Cybershaft OP 14) (PH SR7) => mini pcie adapter to PCIe 1X => tXUSBexp PCIe card (mod sCLK-EX) (PH SR7) => (USPCB) Chord DAVE => Omega Super 8XRS/REL t5i (All powered thru Topaz Isolation Transformer) Link to comment
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