JRiver on NAS - Lets make it happen!

[Music Matters]

I have to ask the question ... Why?

 

What do you think running J.River on low powered NAS hardware would bring you?

 

Running J.River on a NAS does NOT get rid of the computer. All it gets rid of is Windows (or MacOS X) and limits your technology choices.

 

If you want to run J.River in this way ... buy a larger case and put several drive in it. You can leave that running headless and stream to a renderer.

 

Eloise

 

For me, when I want top quality sound, the source will be PC running JRiver. But sometimes I need only background music and my PC is OFF, then would be nice to put iPhone in my PURE i20 dock and through JRemote access the same music that I have as a backup on NAS.

[tranz]

Sounds intriguing. No GUI. Linux. Low process. Low electrical noise. Ethernet connection (or wireless bridge) to get music without USB or SPDIF to the DAC? Yum

 

The irony would not be lost, since JRiver does not believe OS, low processes or hardware tweaking affect sound quality.

[baddog]

And fit for purpose as a music server only - no ripping, no format conversion/up sampling, no video, etc... and killer when paired with JRemote. Unbeatable combination.

 

I would use this to feed an Aries which in turn would feed the DAC.

[jriver]

As you may know, JRiver has a Linux version now. If you like to build computers, that's an option.

 

If you just want a simple solution, you might take a look at the JRiver Id:

Id - JRiverWiki

 

It connects to your LAN, to a USB DAC (or HDMI or analog out). It uses 7 watts during playback.

 

You can play to it using JRemote or Gizmo:

Remotes - JRiverWiki

 

It shows up as a Samba drive on the network, so you can easily copy files to it. It has a 120GB SSD.

 

It's $295 right now.

[tranz]

As you may know, JRiver has a Linux version now. If you like to build computers, that's an option.

 

If you just want a simple solution, you might take a look at the JRiver Id:

Id - JRiverWiki

 

It connects to your LAN, to a USB DAC (or HDMI or analog out). It uses 7 watts during playback.

 

You can play to it using JRemote or Gizmo:

Remotes - JRiverWiki

 

It shows up as a Samba drive on the network, so you can easily copy files to it. It has a 120GB SSD.

 

It's $295 right now.

 

Thanks. Similar to an SMS100 sounds like. Not a bad price.

 

Any plans for a simple linux version that serves the audio files from a NAS like Synology, and uses JRemote as the controller?

 

Some are trying to avoid USB connection all together.

[jriver]

There is a Linux version available, but it's not meant for NAS drives.

 

NAS drives are often Linux computers, so it might be possible.

 

There is a lot of talk about USB problems among some audiophiles, but we don't think it's anything to worry about under normal circumstances. It usually works fine.

[emoon3]

I have a Rasberry Pi box running MPD that I use as a renderer feeding SPDIF to my DAC. I use jriver and jremote to serve files to it via UPNP. Kind of close to what you're looking for and available today. The whole Rasbperry Pi build cost under $100.

[tranz]

I have a Rasberry Pi box running MPD that I use as a renderer feeding SPDIF to my DAC. I use jriver and jremote to serve files to it via UPNP. Kind of close to what you're looking for and available today. The whole Rasbperry Pi build cost under $100.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

[tranz]

There is a Linux version available, but it's not meant for NAS drives.

 

NAS drives are often Linux computers, so it might be possible...

 

Hi JRiver,

 

Thanks. With the potential LAN link into MSB DACs, being able to run a super thin JRiver on a NAS or other small, low power, low electrical noise device that has a LAN output would be intriguing. The JRiver ID does not have a LAN output, correct?

 

The full blown JRiver would still be used on the computer for file/library management, but the files would reside on the NAS, and during playback the main computer would not be needed.

 

Cheers

[rwwjr44]

I would love to have an audio only (or more if possible) on my Synology NAS. I looked at the new JRiver hardware solution, but I don't want to add yet another device to the stream.

[jriver]

Hi JRiver,

The JRiver ID does not have a LAN output, correct?

That's correct. Analog, HDMI, and USB.

[tranz]

That's correct. Analog, HDMI, and USB.

 

Thanks Jriver.

 

A little off track question. Is there a lean, non-gui, DLNA compliant player version of a JRiver for Mac?

[jriver]

Media Server (part of JRiver Media Center) has no GUI and is a DLNA Server, among other things. You could read about it on our wiki.

[ted_b]

Media Server (part of JRiver Media Center) has no GUI and is a DLNA Server, among other things. You could read about it on our wiki.

 

Tranz,

I run Media Server only (it runs as a startup service in WS2012). When I want to browse I use JRemote. If i need to do servicing then I right-click Media Server in the task bar and it brings up the GUI (but it remains off otherwise). Same can be had for Mac.

[tranz]

Tranz,

I run Media Server only (it runs as a startup service in WS2012). When I want to browse I use JRemote. If i need to do servicing then I right-click Media Server in the task bar and it brings up the GUI (but it remains off otherwise). Same can be had for Mac.

 

Thanks ted_b!

 

That sounds like a good option. With a heavily modded pc or mac it might even be electrically less noisy than a NAS with an lpsu? Have you ever run Jriver through a linux box like SoTM's SMS100?

[tranz]

Media Server (part of JRiver Media Center) has no GUI and is a DLNA Server, among other things. You could read about it on our wiki.

 

Thanks JRiver, I will check it out.

[tranz]

Media Server (part of JRiver Media Center) has no GUI and is a DLNA Server, among other things. You could read about it on our wiki.

 

Hi JRiver,

 

A few follow up questions on the Id box. Will I be able to hang a big USB harddrive with all music files directly off the Id? Or even a thunderbolt drive?

 

When using JRemote and the Id as a DLNA server, how many concurrent processes are running? Am I able to kill any unnecessary processes, i.e. Bluetooth, audio output, wifi, etc.?

 

It almost sounds like it can be used as a dedicated music only NAS with the best Remote controller around (Jremote), running only a JRiver DLNA server.

 

Am I missing anything?

 

Alternatively, I could still attach a Synology NAS on the network containing all my music files and the Id would grab the files there, correct?

 

How many SATA connections are available on the NUC board used?

 

Cheers

[Patatorz]

Hello,

 

i used to have few network players (Yamaha NP2000, Ayon NW-T, Lumin A1, Aries and 3dlabs Nano) but I need to say that the openhome interface of the Lumin and Aries is really good compared to standard UPnP players on iOS like PlugPlayer, Audionet ...

By the way my 3dlabs nano is really the best I had in hands but the only issue is that it is UPnP compliant and not openhome.

It works fine with minimserver but the issue is the iOS app which is a nightmare.

Jriver/Jremote with all the possibilities is for me the only solution that makes sense in terms of customer experience.

 

My problem is that it is running on a PC that I don't plan to switch on all the time. I would prefer to have Jriver running on my NAS (synology). I just need the server not all the jriver GUI that I could manage sometime with my PC.

So is there any chance that the Jriver server could be bring on synology NAS, only to play music (for me) in order to manage music through Jremote ?

 

I think it makes a lot of sense !

 

Best Regards

[tranz]

Hi Patatortz,

 

A side note on your nano. On another thread Eloise had pointed me to BubbleUPnP Server, which sits on top of e.g. MinimServer on the NAS and makes your renderer show as Open Home to the likes of Kinsky, DSL, etc. Might work for your nano.

[jriver]

I'm sorry. I missed this.

 

A few follow up questions on the Id box. Will I be able to hang a big USB harddrive with all music files directly off the Id? Or even a thunderbolt drive?

No on both at this time. USB will work eventually.

When using JRemote and the Id as a DLNA server, how many concurrent processes are running? Am I able to kill any unnecessary processes, i.e. Bluetooth, audio output, wifi, etc.?

No need to kill anything.

It almost sounds like it can be used as a dedicated music only NAS with the best Remote controller around (Jremote), running only a JRiver DLNA server.

It isn't a NAS, but it is very low power (7 watts) and it can store files. It doesn't have a big drive though. 120GB with maybe half available for storage.

Alternatively, I could still attach a Synology NAS on the network containing all my music files and the Id would grab the files there, correct?

Probably.

How many SATA connections are available on the NUC board used?

There isn't room to add a drive.

[Patatorz]

Sure it works !!! But I'm not with Android devices :-)

[tranz]

Sure it works !!! But I'm not with Android devices :-)

 

Me neither. I use the iPad as a remote. The Bubble UPnP Server is not a DLNA server and is OS agnostic.

[Patatorz]

Hi Tranz, sorry but I think,I misunderstood your post. If I reformulate you mean that I can use bubble upnp on my synology NAS, configure it as an openhome and use my dlna renderer (3dlabs nano) with for example the LUMIN and auralic app under iOS ?

 

BR

[Antoine]

People want their NAS'es to run stable so they don't want JRiver running on it together with the need to restart the thing every couple of days. Their Mac version is isn't stable as well, I've seen a lot of people steering away from it.

[Audio_ELF]

If you want J.River to run on a NAS; then build a NAS running Windows. Chris has described the CAPSv4 Cortes; but there's no reason you couldn't run J.River on much lower powered processor if you are simply using it as a UPnP server.

 

An Atom motherboard (or similes) in a case you can put 3 or 4 drives in. Install Windows on an SSD or mSATA card; set the drives as a RAID for convenience (and some redundancy) and then you're all set.

 

It's not about the hardware really; it's about the software and setup (IMO).

 

Eloise