ted_b Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Does anybody know if the TC Electronic interfaces especially the Impact Twin are capable of integer/direct mode?? PM this guy. He is more than implying that he got integer mode in PM (back with SL of course) using the Impact Twin. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/pure-music-1-8-a-7346/index10.html#post87031 "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
SteveS1 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Damien, I've been looking forward to giving this a try and I'm not disappointed. Using, AV+/Hog/Direct with Weiss 202 Firewire it is sounding terrific and very stable so far. I have little other than 16/44 AIFF rips, finding a lot of HD reissues of back catalogue pretty meh - but I've mixed in the odd higher sample rate recording and no issues to date. I've been enjoying Amarra 2.4/PM but imo your app has taken things a little further on sonically with no need for quirky gapless playback routines. Great work. Audirvana Plus/Dirac Live - Weiss 202 - Lavardin IT-15 - Art Emotion Signatures. DragonFly Red - Sennheiser HD600s & IE800s. Link to comment
Esprit Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Does anybody know if the TC Electronic interfaces especially the Impact Twin are capable of integer/direct mode?? The Impact is a FW card, TC Electronic is the Dice Driver developer, Dice Driver doesn't support integer mode Link to comment
augomol Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi, Damien! On my Arcam rDac Direct Mode in the Audio System panel it is absent (Mac OS Lion 10.7.4) how to fix it? Link to comment
ted_b Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi, Damien!On my Arcam rDac Direct Mode in the Audio System panel it is absent (Mac OS Lion 10.7.4) how to fix it? Stupid question but...do you have the latest beta A+ (the one with Direct mode) installed? There a several versions of A+ one could have/own, and it's easy to pick the wrong one, possibly? "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
augomol Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Stupid question but...do you have the latest beta A+ (the one with Direct mode) installed? There a several versions of A+ one could have/own, and it's easy to pick the wrong one, possibly? Of course I used last beta version A+ (1.3.9.2). Link to comment
augomol Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Of course I used last beta version A+ (1.3.9.2). Sorry. I reboot my Mac Mini and he appeared For optimal use I check Direct Mode and Exclusive access mode? Link to comment
Esprit Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I'm listening to SD songs (44.1kHz). A+ beta says: ____________________________________ "Direct Mode audio path Currently playing in standard 32bit float mode Device: 2ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float, 8 bytes per frame @176.4kHz Active Sample Rate: 44.1kHz Hog Mode is on" ____________________________________ What does @176.4kHz mean? Link to comment
damien78 Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 I'm listening to SD songs (44.1kHz). A+ beta says: ____________________________________ "Direct Mode audio path Currently playing in standard 32bit float mode Device: 2ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float, 8 bytes per frame @176.4kHz Active Sample Rate: 44.1kHz Hog Mode is on" ____________________________________ What does @176.4kHz mean? This sample rate info is not accurate. The "active sample rate" is the right one. Argh, as you are also inspecting the Debug Info, I'll have to fix this also Damien MBP 15"/Mac Mini, Audirvana Plus, Audioquest Diamond USB, AMR DP-777, exD DSD DAC (for DSD), Pioneer N-70AE, Audioquest Niagara balanced/Viard Audio Design Silver HD, Accuphase E-560, Cabasse Sumatra MT420 Link to comment
augomol Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 This sample rate info is not accurate. The "active sample rate" is the right one.Argh, as you are also inspecting the Debug Info, I'll have to fix this also Damien Damien, For optimal use A+ I check Direct Mode and Exclusive access mode? Link to comment
coot Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 How do I get 1.3.9.2? When I tell A+ to upgrade it tells me 1.3.9.1 is current. Link to comment
ted_b Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 How do I get 1.3.9.2? When I tell A+ to upgrade it tells me 1.3.9.1 is current. Damien tells us all (and has a link) in his announcement (first post of this thread). It's on his blog at A+. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/audirvana-plus-direct-mode-12261/#post159313 "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
stefangustaf Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I have now tried with direct mode. When playing 24/96 track I got a distortion starting quite low but after a while increasing. The sample rate switching is also a little bit unstable often I have to try twice before it works. I am using Snow Leopard and the DAC is Weiss Minerva. //Stefan Link to comment
jcpom Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Using direct/integer mode, I had to try several times to play 44k after playing 96k. Also get occassional clicks. MacMini (late 2010 w/ 4 gb @ 10.9.5) dedicated to digital music (hi-res @24/96 FLAC & lossless @16/44.1) via Audirvana+ 1.5.12 * thru AQ Carbon USB to MF V-Link 192 to MF M1 DAC via Mogami Gold AES (XLR) * out to Sennheiser HD800 driven by Burson Audio HA-160 OR (when wife not home!) out to Paradigm Studio 60s driven by Golden Tree Audio SE-40 tube stereo amp * MacBook (lossey @iPod/iPad/iPhone/AppleTV + general computing) * MacBook Pro (late 2011) @ripping/tagging DVD-Audio + Blu ray Audio & for travel via Fiio E-17 * iPhone5 64gb w/ FLAC player Link to comment
SteveS1 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Whoops spoke to soon, the upgrade to 1.3.9.2 is producing clicks 16/44 to F/W Weiss 202. Steve Audirvana Plus/Dirac Live - Weiss 202 - Lavardin IT-15 - Art Emotion Signatures. DragonFly Red - Sennheiser HD600s & IE800s. Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Whoops spoke to soon, the upgrade to 1.3.9.2 is producing clicks 16/44 to F/W Weiss 202. This happens in my case too with my Weiss Minerva. No clicks at first, but then over time they start occurring. I've found that restarting A+ can temporarily remedy this. Hi rez content generates more clicking. Also, last night I added DSF files for the first time. Version 1.3.9.2 crashes when I try to play these. The shipping version plays these just fine. I will send Damien the crash logs tonight. I hope these issues can be resolved soon. Listening without Direct Mode isn't as enjoyable. Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
orgel Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 This happens in my case too with my Weiss Minerva. No clicks at first, but then over time they start occurring. I've found that restarting A+ can temporarily remedy this. Hi rez content generates more clicking. Same here, although with the Mytek Stereo 192. Could this be an issue related to FireWire/DICE in the current beta build? No such problems with the release version. --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
ctle Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Same here, although with the Mytek Stereo 192. Could this be an issue related to FireWire/DICE in the current beta build? No such problems with the release version.--David There must be an issue related to FW in the beta release, I've switched to USB and had no problem with audio dropouts since. Link to comment
a.dent Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 There must be an issue related to FW in the beta release, I've switched to USB and had no problem with audio dropouts since. I've had dropouts with USB into my Audio-GD Ref-5. The dropouts seem to be intermittent and unpredictable. Link to comment
BobP63 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hi Damien, Any chance we'll see 1.3.9.3 this weekend? Mac Mini, Audirvana Plus, Metrum Hex NOS DAC w/Upgraded USB Module-2, UpTone Regen Amber, Pass Labs INT-30A Amplifier, B&W 802 Diamond Speakers, Shotgun Bi-wire Kimber 4TC Cables. Headphone setup: Burson Soloist Amp, Audeze LCD-3 Headphones. Link to comment
damien78 Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hi Damien,Any chance we'll see 1.3.9.3 this weekend? Yes, definitively this WE MBP 15"/Mac Mini, Audirvana Plus, Audioquest Diamond USB, AMR DP-777, exD DSD DAC (for DSD), Pioneer N-70AE, Audioquest Niagara balanced/Viard Audio Design Silver HD, Accuphase E-560, Cabasse Sumatra MT420 Link to comment
juliocat Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Yes, definitively this WE Thanks Damian, this program has been the best inversion i made to my system!!! Even in beta version works and sounds much better than Amarra. Hackintosh I7 16GB Ram, Roon, HQPlayer, Drobo 8 TB NAS, Raspberry Pi 3 NAA, Gustard X20 ES 9018 Xmos, Audio GD C39 Preamp, The First ONE DIY Amp, Monitor Audio GS20 Speakers, Monitor Audio RSW12 Subwoofer, PI Audio MagikBuss filter. Link to comment
BobP63 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Yes, definitively this WE Great, really looking forward to it. Mac Mini, Audirvana Plus, Metrum Hex NOS DAC w/Upgraded USB Module-2, UpTone Regen Amber, Pass Labs INT-30A Amplifier, B&W 802 Diamond Speakers, Shotgun Bi-wire Kimber 4TC Cables. Headphone setup: Burson Soloist Amp, Audeze LCD-3 Headphones. Link to comment
jhwalker Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Just wanted to add: I've spent some time this weekend listening to all the various permutations my system is capable of using Audirvana Plus: Mac Mini > Optical > Schiit Bifrost > Onkyo AVR Mac Mini > Optical > Onkyo AVR Mac Mini > HDMI > Onkyo AVR Mac Mini > USB (Integer mode) > Schiit Bifrost > Onkyo AVR 1 & 2 sound virtually the same, nothing much to pick between them, but optical out on my Mac Mini is limited to 96k and the sound is almost *too* smooth. I want to like 3 (since my HDMI interface is capable of all sample rates up to 192k and it's the most direct route to my AVR), but it sounds a bit "brittle" to my ears - some grunge in the sound and bass transients tend to be distorted, not presented cleanly. 4 is in a world of its own: the sound is much more open and has a nice "bite" to it, avoiding both the smoothness of the optical and the brittleness of the HDMI. So, in my system, USB integer mode is the way to go. I continue to have some near-kernel panics (Audirvana Plus handles this now by detecting the incipient kernel panic and simply not playing, which is better than a crash, I suppose) and am having intermittent problems with USB on my Bifrost (sound suddenly gets very digital, with a high shrieky overlay on the music - generally clears up spontaneously in a few seconds, but sounds awful while it's happening - anyone else having this issue?), but I'm willing to put up with some teething pains to get the great sound out of integer mode. PS - The USB / Bifrost shrieky sound issue may be specific to my system - I'm trying each of the various USB ports and have tried three different USB cables (from relatively high-end down to bargain store brand) with no perceptible effect on the issue; i.e., it keeps happening intermittently, at all sample rates, without warning or any seeming correlation to what type of music is playing, etc. It's a puzzlement, just wondering if anyone else has heard this with their Bifrost. John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
les24preludes Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I'm a musician so I really look forward to any advances in my sound system - Mac Mini OSX 10.7.4. I have a USB DAC - a RAKK DAC with USB input board. I've been unlucky here - managed to get sound in the beginning by selecting "USB DAC". Then I started to switch between exclusive access and direct mode. Couldn't get direct mode to work and tried switching back then the whole thing went dead. No sound from iTunes native mode, no streaming TV, no sound anywhere. The player seemed to have locked - it wouldn't start any tracks. Since the whole thing went dead and I couldn't get sound I had to uninstall the whole trial version. For a brief moment I got what seemed like nice smooth sound. Where do I go from here? I can't have my system go down - must have glitch free access. Help!! Andy Link to comment
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