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    In the era of cable news and social media it might be hard to believe, but journalism has a code of ethics. Among other responsibilities, journalists are expected to “label advocacy and commentary” and “show compassion for those who may be affected by news coverage.”

     

    These obligations might seem obtuse when it comes to product reviews. Reviews have real-world consequences yet are inherently opinion-based. A rave might persuade consumers to part with their hard-earned cash. A pan might imperil the livelihood of the producer. Given that, experts have puzzled over the ethics of reviewing everything from art to food. Each genre has its own quirks. But in every case, an ethical reviewer must be fair to consumers and producers, alike. Making clear that the review represents opinion, not fact, is central to that fairness.

     

    I think a lot about these obligations when I review DACs, amps, headphones, and IEMs here on Audiophile Style. I’d rather write with an even-handed matter-of-factness than throw bombs. I try to take practicable steps to reduce my biases. I level-match. I listen multiple times before I measure. I also confront myself with opposing views after I have formed my initial opinions. If I think I’ve missed something, I go back and relisten or remeasure. I also recommend that readers consult other measurements, not just mine. If I’m saying that I don’t like something that many other reviewers have praised, I don’t want to hide that fact. Ultimately, all my reviews can convey is what I prefer and why, not what’s better or worse in an absolute sense.

     

    For the past several months, I’ve been working on a headphone review. I already have my own listening notes and measurements, and I’ve started to peek at what other reviewers are saying. Naturally, I was interested when a reviewer with a GRAS 45CA measurement rig, which is much more advanced than my meager miniDSP EARS setup, reviewed the same product. But the measurements weren’t what grabbed my attention when I started reading. It was the strident tone of the reviewer. He declared that his tastes are correct, the product’s tuning is wrong, and those who disagree are fools.

     

    The reviewer prefers what’s commonly known as the “Harman Curve,” a suggested frequency response for headphones and IEMs. There are many excellent summaries of the Harman Curve out there. In short, the Harman company’s research started from the logical premise that a good headphone or IEM should “simulate the in-room response of a well-designed loudspeaker system calibrated in a reference listening room,” as Harman’s Sean Olive put it. Thanks to the research of folks like Olive and Floyd Toole, among others, we know more about what makes for a good-sounding speaker than ever before. But making a pair of headphones or IEMs sound like that is easier said than done. There are quite a few ways to measure speakers’ in-room response, and a combination of factors — including anatomical variation and room reflections — influence how the listener experiences that sound.

     

    To develop Harman’s headphone and IEM curves, Olive and other researchers began by measuring the in-room response of good speakers using a dummy fitted with a GRAS fixture. Using that response as a baseline, they conducted a series of experiments whereby listeners could adjust the bass and (sometimes) treble level of headphones and IEMs to their tastes. The Harman Curve is, more or less, an average of what those listeners liked. Specifically, it represents the frequency response that 64 percent of participants preferred. The remaining 36 percent were divided between those who liked more bass (15 percent) and those who liked less (21 percent). The Harman headphone curve has been revised several times, with the general trend of increasing bass below 100 Hz. The in-ear-monitor version of the curve, in turn, has even more low end than the revised headphone curve.

     

    The Harman Curve has not been met with universal acceptance. It’s been criticized for a variety of reasons, both methodological and ideological. Some critics think the simple bass and treble controls given to the Harman listeners weren’t fine-grained enough. Others object to the fact that the largest Harman study EQ’d a single pair of headphones to match the frequency responses of other pairs instead of using the actual headphones. Still others just don’t like how it sounds.

     

    I think there’s at least some truth to these criticisms. My headphone and IEM tuning preferences don’t necessarily align with the Harman Curve. But I’m not sure that they never do, either. That’s because, as Olive has noted, it can be hard to pin down which headphones and IEMs count as Harman-tuned. The Truthear x Crinacle Zero IEM has been lauded for complying with the Harman Curve. On Twitter, Olive confirmed that the Zero is “pretty close to the Harman Target with a little extra bass.” I think that the Zero has bloated bass and sibilant treble. But there are other IEMs that have been described as Harman-tuned that I either like (Moondrop Variations) or love (ThieAudio Monarch MKII).

     

    Why is that? Perhaps claims of Harman compliance get tossed around too loosely. Or maybe there are sonic characteristics beyond frequency response that affect whether I like a Harman Curve-tuned headphone or IEM. I can’t say for sure.

     

    Regardless, I respect Harman and the work that Olive and others have done. A few years ago, I worked my way through the levels in Harman’s excellent How to Listen ear-training software. That led me to Sound Gym and Berklee’s “Critical Listening“ class. Love or hate the Harman Curve, there just aren’t many audio companies conducting publicly available audio research like Harman’s.

     

    Where things go wrong is when reviewers treat the Harman Curve as an absolute truth. The reviewer mentioned above asserted both that the Harman Curve represents scientifically proven “facts, not opinions” and that any headphone or IEM with a different frequency response is “very incorrect.” He even argued that the Harman Curve should become a “universal standard” with which all headphones and IEMs must align:

     

    There is another major reason why what he [the non-Harman-tuned headphone’s designer] is doing is wrong: it continues to randomize the music industry [emphasis in original]. We all need to get behind one standard that is used both in production and playback. Only then we have any hope of hearing what the artist approved (and heard). If we continue this wild west of every designer’s idea being right, we will never get there. With a single standard that is close to what many like, we have a headphone that can be used without EQ. And those that don’t agree, can EQ to what they like.

    We have such a target right now: Harman’s. We all need to get behind that if we want to hear music the way it is intended. Anything else helps a company at the expense of us, the consumers and music lovers....

     

    Both the recording and playback industry need to agree on one curve.... With our efforts here highlighting importance of Harman target, we are seeing more and more companies using it. We need more companies to get behind it and work towards a universal standard….

     

    [W]e need to kiss the ground that we can predict listener preference with 60 to 70% probability. If we had a disease and a new medication came to market with this level of efficacy, v[ersu]s others with far less, we would be dancing in streets.

     

    Ethically, this kind of dogmatism is inappropriate for a reviewer. In this case, it’s also fundamentally misleading.

     

    Harman’s preference research is nothing like a pharmaceutical trial, either methodologically or practically. Clinical trials generally involve thousands of participants, many years, tens of millions of dollars, ample controls, and rigorous review by outside experts. For a new medication to gain approval, the trial needs to show that it’s safe and effective, not just for the study’s participants but also for the diverse population at large. For that reason, such studies often take the form of a randomized controlled trial, which is considered the “gold standard“ for medical research. As UNICEF explains, “RCTs typically use both random sampling (since they are usually aiming to make inferences about a larger population) and random assignment (an essential characteristic of an RCT).”

     

    Harman’s research is clever, but it’s decidedly less rigorous than a clinical trial. Some of the company’s preference studies use samples as small as ten people. The largest I could find included 249 listeners in multiple countries. For comparison, Pew’s respected global attitudes survey samples at least 1,000 respondents per country. Large sample sizes increase the likelihood that the research has what’s known as “external validity,” which means that the results can be generalized beyond the study’s participants.

     

    Generalizability also depends upon selecting study participants using “probability sampling,” a “technique involving randomization, so that members of the population or sub-groups within it have known probabilities of inclusion.” The Harman Curve research isn’t based on probability sampling. The 249-person sample was drawn from four Harman offices, four universities, and JBL dealers. This type of sampling is called “convenience sampling,” and it has serious limitations. As is often stated in statistics and survey research articles and textbooks, “You should never attempt to generalize convenience sample results to the population.” It’s possible to use fancy methods to combine a convenience sample with a probability sample, though how well such methods stack up against true probability sampling remains a point of debate among statisticians. More often, researchers with non-probability data try to reach “saturation,” the point at which there’s nothing more to be learned by adding more participants. But deciding when a study has reached saturation is itself a subjective judgment.

     

    That’s not to say that studies based on convenience samples are worthless. Probability sampling is expensive and inconvenient. So plenty of market research and even academic studies use convenience sampling. Peruse almost any psychology journal, and you’ll find convenience samples. It’s common for Psych 101 or Experimental Psych students to be cajoled into participating in a faculty member’s study. Sometimes participation is even required to pass the course. That said, psychology is in the midst of a discipline-roiling replication crisis at least partly because convenience samples have low external validity.

     

    Things get even more complicated when a study uses a subjective rating scale, as is the case with Harman’s preference research (and lots of academic work). Do participants think of the scale’s intervals as equal, where a rating of 10 is twice as good as a rating of five? Or do they think of it as simple ordering? Seemingly small distinctions like those end up mattering a lot when it comes to drawing conclusions from the study’s data.

     

    Unlike some fervent fans of the Harman Curve, Harman’s lead researcher Sean Olive is well-aware of these methodological limitations and others. In almost every article or presentation, he includes disclaimers such as “listener sample was not randomly selected or balanced,” “method of adjustments in bass and treble not loudness compensated: some listeners may have simply boosted bass and treble because it made the music louder,” and “it is important for the reader not to draw generalizations from these results beyond the conditions we tested.” In fact, Olive has written, “There is no single target curve that satisfies all listeners. It’s a statistical exercise[.]” He’s expressed openness to “put[ing] some confidence limits around the curve maybe based on preferred bass and treble levels data,” and recently suggested a “preference bounds” target that features a 6 dB range in the low bass, 2.5 dB range in the midrange, and 7 dB range in the upper treble. He’s (figuratively and literally) embraced critics of the Harman research. He’s even poked fun at audiophiles’ overheated debates about the Harman Curve.

     

    We can’t be sure that the Harman Curve represents what 64 percent of the public or even 64 percent of audiophiles prefer. All we can say for sure is that it’s what 64 percent of the study’s participants liked. None of the Harman studies were particularly gender-balanced. The 249-person sample was 89 percent male and 11 percent female. A 238-person study’s sample was 86 percent male and 14 percent female. A 130-person study’s sample was 78 percent male and 22 percent female. That’s a big problem when women comprise half of the population. It’s an even bigger problem considering that Harman’s research has found significant gender differences in frequency response preference.

     

    At best, Harman’s research suggests that the Harman Curve will appeal to a not-insignificant slice of consumers. That’s undoubtedly helpful to Harman when it designs its own headphones. But that’s very different from the aforementioned reviewer’s assertion that the Harman Curve is a scientific fact that should be imposed upon all manufacturers and consumers.

     

    It’s also important to remember that the Harman Curve represents consumer preferences, not “correct” tonality. While the curve began with a GRAS-equipped dummy listening to the in-room response of good speakers, the study’s participants tweaked the bass and (sometimes) treble to their liking from there. This feedback is what produced the Harman Curve’s elevated bass. According to the reviewer, that’s because “without tactile feedback that speakers bring, headphones need more bass…. [Y]ou have no tactile feedback in headphones. You need that boost to get something to replace that.”

     

    It’s true that when moving from speakers to headphones or from headphone to IEMs, the subjective experience of bass as a simultaneous sound and sensation tilts away from the latter and towards the former. The Harman Curve is not alone in advancing a bass boost is advisable when the physical sensation is lost. Some bookshelf speakers, for example, include a slight bump in the upper bass in an attempt to offset their lack of low bass.

     

    Ultimately, though, each listener will perceive this sensation-sound tradeoff differently. Harman’s own research found that “[t]he effect of vibration on preferred bass level was somewhat dependent on the listener, which could be related to their weight.” A single headphone or IEM frequency response standard like the Harman Curve can’t account for that variation.

     

    We also don’t know whether other companies have carried out listener preference studies similar to Harman’s and arrived at different results. Most businesses prefer to keep their market research proprietary. Even a small company like Schiit uses blind listening to help it decide which products to bring to market. It’s hard to believe that large ones like Sony and Sennheiser are giving their engineers carte blanche to design headphones and IEMs without regard for what consumers like. Yet products like Sony’s IER-Z1R and Sennheiser’s HD820 deviate substantially from the Harman Curve. I reviewed the latter and didn’t like it. But I know that plenty of consumers did, and Sony may have even had internal research that made them confident its tuning would be popular.

     

    Crucially, even if we assume that Harman’s results can be generalized to all consumers, that doesn’t mean that we’d be better off if all headphones and IEMs followed it.

     

    Harman’s research shows that headphones that deviate from the Harman Curve can be just as popular ones that follow it. In a 2018 study, Olive and his coauthors pitted 31 headphones against the Harman Curve. The study’s sample was composed of 130 Harman employees, 102 of whom “were tested for normal audiometric hearing and had successfully completed level eight for all tasks in the training software ‘Harman How to Listen.’” It found that the Harman Curve was tied for most preferred with three other headphones. More recent research —conducted by other researchers and analyzed by Olive — showed that 11 frequency responses, including Sound Guys’ universal target and Harman’s 2018 over-ear target, were tied for most preferred. In Olive’s brand new research, Harman’s 2019 in-ear target and Sound Guys’ target were tied for most preferred.

     

    Notably, Sound Guys’ target has significantly less energy below 100 Hz and between 2 and 6 kHz than all versions of the Harman curve, especially the 2019 in-ear target.

     

    To state the obvious, even if it’s true that 64 percent of listeners prefer the Harman Curve, 64 is a long way from 100. Somewhere between 550 million and 1.2 billion headphones are sold each year. While some people, including yours truly, are buying multiple headphones per year, 36 percent of headphone consumers is a whole lot of people. If there weren’t plenty of people who prefer non-Harman frequency responses, companies would stop making products that deviate from the Harman Curve. Isn’t it good that companies are meeting those consumer’s tastes?

     

    The reviewer in question says no. He argues that those consumers’ preferences have “no value” because they “don’t have critical listening abilities” and “will buy anything that... looks nice.” In other words, he thinks that the 36 percent of listeners who enjoy a non-Harman frequency response are a bunch of rubes. This kind of insulting reviewing is becoming all too common and should be rejected, regardless of the underlying opinion. When a popular YouTube reviewer calls those who like the Truthear x Crinacle Zero “complete idiots who know absolutely NOTHING about what real sound quality is,” it hardly matters that I don’t like the Zero, either. Such condescension is abhorrent.

     

    Once you believe that everyone who disagrees with your tastes is a nincompoop, it’s easy to leap to the conclusion that their freedom of choice must be revoked in order to save them from their base impulses. According to the Harman-loving reviewer, “You as a consumer should be all in favor of standardization.” He argues that headphone and IEM buyers need to have a single frequency response imposed upon them “[f]or the same reason there are not 1,000 flavors at [the] [i]ce [c]ream store.” Putting aside the fact that Baskin Robbins has “more than 1,400 [flavors] in its flavor library” and flavor choice is seen as a selling point for ice cream parlors, it’s worth asking whether headphone buyers are worse off because they’re able to choose among headphones and IEMs with varying frequency responses.

     

    The reviewer’s argument goes against the “customer is always right” mentality of modern American capitalism. I’m actually sympathetic to criticisms of that mentality. Yet it’s hard to see how those criticisms apply to headphones or IEMs. Some research that suggests that too many choices increase consumers’ anxiety and unhappiness, but that research has been ensnared by psychology’s replication crisis and is far from universally accepted.

     

    The strongest arguments against consumer choice involve issues of public policy and social, rather than consumer, welfare. There’s good evidence that, in areas such as healthcare and education, choice actually makes everyone worse off. In those contexts, private choice can undermine the “positive externalities” (social benefits) created by public goods.

     

    For consumer products like headphones or ice cream, though, variety is almost always good. Research has found that “as new products are introduced, households can choose consumption bundles better suited to their particular tastes, resulting in welfare gains from better selection.” According to one study, “welfare gain from increased variety was about 40 times the gain from lower prices,” in part because “demand for these niche products was significantly more inelastic than that of mass products.” In layperson’s terms, this means that product variety increases consumer welfare precisely because people with less-common tastes strongly value the ability to buy products that match their tastes.

     

    Whatever hypothetical benefits might accrue from mandating that headphones and IEMs follow the Harman Curve are likely to be far outweighed by the welfare loss of denying those who don’t like it the opportunity to buy products they enjoy. The reviewer seems to understand this on some level when he suggests that “those that don’t agree [with the Harman Curve] can EQ to what they like.” But that’s not a reasonable concession. Should 36 percent of consumers be forced to pay a financial and/or convenience tax because they don’t like the Herman Curve? What about consumers who can’t (or don’t want to) EQ their headphones and IEMs? Plus, if EQ’ing is as frictionless as the pro-Harman reviewer implies, then there’s no need to mandate the Harman Curve. Anyone who likes the curve can simply EQ their headphones and IEMs to match it.

     

    The only sure winner if the Harman Curve were made the industry standard would be the Harman company. Sales of Harman’s own curve-aligned headphones and IEMs would almost certainly increase. Harman also could create a “Harman Curve Certified” program for other companies’ products. Audiophiles have seen this before with certifications like MFi, Hi-Res Audio, HDMI, and MQA. These schemes are great for the companies that run them, but they drive up costs for consumers.

     

    Is Harman trying to do this with the Harman Curve? Despite some Harman-lovers’ wishes to the contrary, I haven’t seen any evidence suggesting that Harman wants to make the Harman Curve the industry standard. In a recent presentation titled “Will the Headphone Industry Ever Agree on a Design Target Curve?,” Olive wrote, “While there is a strong argument for a better industry standard headphone target, loudspeaker history tells us it is unlikely to occur.”

     

    Even if Harman has no intention of turning the Harman Curve into a standard, it’s important to remember that the company’s decision to make the Harman Curve research public wasn’t purely altruistic. Harman has kept other research private. By publicizing the Harman Curve, the company can use its research to promote both its products and its technical and consulting services. For example, Harman advertises its AKG K371 headphones as “meticulously engineered to match AKG’s Reference Response Curve, the result of an extensive 5-year study by HARMAN that tested hundreds of subjects on how they perceive audio, and more importantly, what their preferences are for critical listening. This new benchmark of accuracy ensures that K371 headphones provide accurate, neutral sound.”

     

    There’s nothing wrong with that. Claiming that your products are by “science” is a time-tested marketing strategy. Such claims might persuade consumers to buy that company’s products, or they could backfire. But — and here is where things get really interesting — if the science in question measures consumer preferences, then a successful marketing campaign centered on the science actually creates further support for the science.

     

    If Harman’s marketing convinces consumers that the Harman Curve is scientifically accurate, then consumers might buy more Harman-tuned headphones and IEMs. As the pro-Harman reviewer noted, “The current high-end headphone market is heavily influenced by what people read and watch on [Y]ou[T]ube. People can be convinced anything is good and a business made around it.” As more and more consumers buy Harman Curve-aligned products, then that’s the frequency response they’ll become accustomed to. Quoting the reviewer again, “If you have been listening to this headphone for a while, your ear/brain have adapted so its tonality will seem right to you and anything else wrong. This is why many people like even broken speakers/headphones.” So if Harman’s curve-touting marketing works, it could influence the results of future preference studies, thereby creating its own proof that the Harman Curve is “correct.”

     

    Indeed, other brands’ past marketing success may have influenced the development of the Harman Curve. Harman’s research found that younger listeners prefer much more bass that older listeners. One common hypothesis for why this is the case is that the popularity of Beats headphones among young consumers has conditioned them to want more bass. That’s precisely why consumer preference studies can only prove that something is popular, not that it’s “scientifically correct.”

     

    Some reviewers take pains to make this clear to readers. RTings recently updated its procedures for headphone reviews and measurements, noting:

     

    Tests related to the headphones’ frequency response, like bass, mid, and treble accuracy, are based on (and scored against) our target curve. However, their current state may not give a good picture of whether you’ll like their sound. We’re not getting rid of objective measurements, though! Instead, we want to complement the data by clarifying the possibility of different interpretations depending on your preferences, which may or may not also align with our target. For example, if you like a more bass-heavy sound, our target curve framework may not make it easy to find what you’re looking for…. It’s paramount to detangle our preference-based results from our scores. We can provide information on what most users like; however, it’s also important to remember that sound quality is highly subjective and that there isn’t a unanimous way to evaluate it.

     

    Reviewers who love the Harman Curve are free to praise it and to withhold positive reviews from headphones and IEMs that don’t follow it. But it’s unethical to insist that it’s the only scientifically valid frequency response. It’s condescending to call consumers who dislike the curve (or don’t like it exclusively) fools. And it’s misleading (at best) to pretend that headphone and IEM consumers will be better off if the Harman Curve is their only option.

     

     

     

     

    About the Author

    jm.pngJosh Mound has been an audiophile since age 14, when his father played Spirit's "Nature's Way" through his Boston Acoustics floorstanders and told Josh to listen closely. Since then, Josh has listened to lots of music, owned lots of gear, and done lots of book learnin'. He's written about music for publications like Filter and Under the Radar and about politics for publications like New Republic, Jacobin, and Dissent. He lives in Charlottesville, Virginia, with his wife and two cats.

     

     




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    Thanks so much for your work on this one @Josh Mound. I have much to say, even though I also live in a glass house. But, I'm incredibly short on time and will circle back to this when I have a moment to transribe my thoughts coherently.

     

    I also want to to be the first to say, you do a fantastic job around here, classing up the place with your writing talent. 

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    7 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    Thanks so much for your work on this one @Josh Mound. I have much to say, even though I also live in a glass house. But, I'm incredibly short on time and will circle back to this when I have a moment to transribe my thoughts coherently.

     

    I also want to to be the first to say, you do a fantastic job around here, classing up the place with your writing talent. 

     

    Thanks, Chris! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

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    My feelings on this lie somewhere in the middle, I think.

     

    I know exactly which reviewer you're quoting because I frequent his fora daily.   And I think he offers incredible value in the services he offers.

     

    I think he oversteps a bit WRT his comments on the universality of the Harman Curve, BUT ... I also think the Harman Curve offers a "standard" we can (and should) reference as a baseline for comparisons.  I don't think that any headphone that fails to precisely replicate Harman is automatically valueless, BUT I know I, personally, will not like it if if falls too far from from the curve, because Harman is also MY preference among all the variations I've tried.

     

    So, no, people who prefer something else are not necessarily fools (though they may be, or ignorant), BUT I question their judgment when they enthusiastically recommend headphones that are so far from accurate they MUST sound terrible (and they do, the ones I've listened to, at least).  I think headphones which adhere closely to Harman as a baseline generally sound pretty good, and any specific variations may or may not contribute to the special value of that model.

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    1 hour ago, jhwalker said:

    My feelings on this lie somewhere in the middle, I think.

     

    I know exactly which reviewer you're quoting because I frequent his fora daily.   And I think he offers incredible value in the services he offers.

     

    I think he oversteps a bit WRT his comments on the universality of the Harman Curve, BUT ... I also think the Harman Curve offers a "standard" we can (and should) reference as a baseline for comparisons.  I don't think that any headphone that fails to precisely replicate Harman is automatically valueless, BUT I know I, personally, will not like it if if falls too far from from the curve, because Harman is also MY preference among all the variations I've tried.

     

    So, no, people who prefer something else are not necessarily fools (though they may be, or ignorant), BUT I question their judgment when they enthusiastically recommend headphones that are so far from accurate they MUST sound terrible (and they do, the ones I've listened to, at least).  I think headphones which adhere closely to Harman as a baseline generally sound pretty good, and any specific variations may or may not contribute to the special value of that model.


    Thank you for your response.

     

    As I mentioned at the end, I don’t have any problem with people enjoying or even touting the Harman Curve. I just don’t want it to become an industry standard. I think the research shows that there are frequency responses that are equally preferred, as well as valid ones that are enjoyed by substantial minorities of listeners, even according to Harman’s research. 
     

    While, as I wrote, I like some IEMs and headphones that tend to follow the curve (or a variant of it), I also usually think the sub-bass is a bit too much and the 3-4 kHz peak is too steep. So, the SoundGuys curve, which is basically Harman but with those traits toned down, might be closer to my ideal. 
     

    That said, I totally agree that there are some IEMs and headphones that stray way too far from any reasonable ballpark definition of “neutral” for me to enjoy them. Those tend to get negative reviews from me. But I also would never say that those products shouldn’t be allowed to exist.

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    We all need to get behind one standard that is used both in production and playback. Only then we have any hope of hearing what the artist approved (and heard). If we continue this wild west of every designer’s idea being right, we will never get there. With a single standard that is close to what many like, we have a headphone that can be used without EQ. And those that don’t agree, can EQ to what they like.

     

    To get to this conclusion, need we assume that we all hear alike?  What if we not only each have different musical tastes, but we actually hear and perceive sounds differently?  If the artist, the recording master and the audience all hear the same way then that "standard" becomes very important.  But what about the 36% that doesn't prefer the Harman curve? Are they "wrong" or do they hear differently?

     

    What I like about the data that underlies the music is that we can agree whether or not what was played live matches what was recorded and then played back (making a huge assumption that we can and do measure what matters). A flat frequency response is only one such measurement. 

     

    There are live venues I like and others I don't. Is one venue more correct or better than another? Maybe, if 100% of audiences agreed with me, but I know they don't.  This is one of the reason's I have been so pleased with the various choices offered by software like HQ Player, rather than the choices of one DAC designer/engineer.  It allows me to make what I hear in my listening room sound as much as I can make it, sound like what I hear with live instruments and voices.  

     

    Doing that is a function not only of the recording, but certainly also of my playback chain, and the audio characteristics of my listening room.  A music studio can really only address the first of these three.  The other two are a function of budget, equipment choices, and room choices and how each of those alters the original AND my particular sensitivities to anomalies (in frequency, in reverb, in wave form, etc.)

     

    Thus, to me I don't want some majority view of what sounds best -- I just want my output file to look as identical as possible to the original...

     

    Your ears may vary ;-) 

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    59 minutes ago, bobfa said:

    👏👏 @Josh Mound 👏👏

     


    Is there such a thing as 20:20 hearing?

     

     

    I have two ears, and their ability to conduct sound to my brain are different, not a lot but different.  I have some persistent tinnitus.  I have allergies that mess up my hearing off and on.    What I want is not some vague target.      

     

    The industry spends a lot of time on the “last mile” in an audio playback systems, from AC power to cables, to rooms to speakers.  Who corrects the last 3cm from the air to my brain?

     

    How do I learn what others hear or what is “real”?  I do not know what is real ; I only know what I hear.  The concert halls I have been in are all different, the specific location I sit in is different!  Do I really know what that specific violin sounds like?

     

    I want systems tools that let me tune to ME!  I would love to learn what is real.

     

     

     

    Exactly, all the sense do dull over time but hearing and sight are the big ones. My father (94) had hearing loss at small frequency ranges, at specific regions in the hearing spectrum. My mother (91), on the other hand, basically her hearing is done, even with hearing aids, she is practically deaf.

     

    So far, my ears seem to be holding out, but I do try to take care of them - ear plugs at concerts, etc.

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    19 hours ago, ecwl said:

    I have often wondered if some variations in individual preferences for frequency responses are related to different people preferring to listen at different volumes. In those scenarios, Fletcher-Munson curves/equal loudness contour kicks in. 

     

    But I would still prefer to know the frequency responses of most headphones so I can figure out what frequency response curves I enjoy. That way, I don’t have to try all the headphones that deviate too far from my preferences.

     

    While I 100% agree with the article, I have often seen people use the arguments in the article to say that speakers in-room measurements (or even room acoustics) don’t matter. I think since most headphones have smooth bass response and most rooms don’t, that is a perspective I can’t buy into. Unfortunately, we don’t know what we don’t know. So once again, if people don’t measure their rooms, they don’t really know what they’re hearing.


    To be clear, I am most definitely *not* anti-measurements. I just bought a few IEC 711 clone couplers to make my IEM reviews’ measurements more comparable to others’, and I’m setting up a SquigLink site. I measure headphones with my EARS unit, and if I could afford a Gras or similar, I’d use it in a heartbeat. I also measure my listening room with an UMIK-1 and REW and treat it based on those measurements. 

     

    Indeed, I rarely buy a product (especially a transducer) without seeing measurements first, and I value all of the measurements conducted by reviewers, including the pro-Harman reviewer mentioned in this piece. 
     

    So I don’t want anyone to think my skepticism about the accuracy or universality of preference curves for headphones and IEMs is an anti-measurement statement. Far from it. 

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    For those interested, Sean Olive tweeted about my article, and there are some good discussions happening in the threads below his tweet.

     

     

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    Thanks @Josh Mound for your thoughtful piece. I agree: The reviewer in question's assertive promotion of the Harman Curve as the only correct standard, and his dismissal of alternative preferences, is unethical and misleading. 


    As my experience with this hobby has grown, I've found myself increasingly drawn to reviews that compare the item in question with something I already own. For instance, in the realm of headphones, I particularly value reviews that juxtapose the model being discussed with the HD6xx. This preference stems from two reasons: firstly, the HD6xx is widely owned and favored, making it a familiar benchmark for many. Secondly, its affordability means that it's accessible to a broad audience, thereby serving as a universal reference point. From there, it's up to the reviewer to make further comparisons. Similarly, when it comes to IEMs, I see the merit in having a Harman-tuned IEM in one's collection. Given the range of affordable options, this provides a baseline for understanding a particular sound signature, enabling more meaningful comparisons with others' experiences.

     

    Furthermore, I believe that frequency response is not the sole determinant of quality. Factors such as detail / clarity, damping / decay, and coherence/imaging—attributes particularly noticeable in the variance between single and multi-driver IEMs—cannot be fully encapsulated by frequency response charts alone.

     

    While that reviewer's website can be a source of frustration for me, I find myself consulting it occasionally for its measurements, which can be informative. I'm thankful for the presence of other resources (SBAF, @GoldenOne, Danny Ritchie) in the community that also conduct equipment measurements. The less time I need to spend navigating that particular site, the better!

    PS - is there a reason we're not naming the reviewer? I feel like we're talking about Voldemort and the Death Eaters here - he who shall not be named! A fun project could be assigning Harry Potter characters to folks in the Audio Industry =)

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    2 hours ago, taipan254 said:

    Thanks @Josh Mound for your thoughtful piece. I agree: The reviewer in question's assertive promotion of the Harman Curve as the only correct standard, and his dismissal of alternative preferences, is unethical and misleading. 


    As my experience with this hobby has grown, I've found myself increasingly drawn to reviews that compare the item in question with something I already own. For instance, in the realm of headphones, I particularly value reviews that juxtapose the model being discussed with the HD6xx. This preference stems from two reasons: firstly, the HD6xx is widely owned and favored, making it a familiar benchmark for many. Secondly, its affordability means that it's accessible to a broad audience, thereby serving as a universal reference point. From there, it's up to the reviewer to make further comparisons. Similarly, when it comes to IEMs, I see the merit in having a Harman-tuned IEM in one's collection. Given the range of affordable options, this provides a baseline for understanding a particular sound signature, enabling more meaningful comparisons with others' experiences.

     

    Furthermore, I believe that frequency response is not the sole determinant of quality. Factors such as detail / clarity, damping / decay, and coherence/imaging—attributes particularly noticeable in the variance between single and multi-driver IEMs—cannot be fully encapsulated by frequency response charts alone.

     

    While that reviewer's website can be a source of frustration for me, I find myself consulting it occasionally for its measurements, which can be informative. I'm thankful for the presence of other resources (SBAF, @GoldenOne, Danny Ritchie) in the community that also conduct equipment measurements. The less time I need to spend navigating that particular site, the better!

    PS - is there a reason we're not naming the reviewer? I feel like we're talking about Voldemort and the Death Eaters here - he who shall not be named! A fun project could be assigning Harry Potter characters to folks in the Audio Industry =)


    I completely agree about common model benchmarks being valuable. I include the HD6XX in almost all of my headphone reviews for that reason.

     

    The reason for not naming the reviewer is that I want to talk about the broader issues at stake, rather than get bogged down in personalities. After some thought, it seemed likely that foregrounding the reviewer would simply devolve into a debate about that reviewer, which isn’t what I wanted this article to be about. 

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    I agree wholeheartedly, the HD 650 is a universal standard, and it's always useful to see it discussed in a headphone review. Because if the reviewer thinks the HD 650 is wonderful, I need to discount the rest of the review. 🙃 

     

    Preferences vary so widely, and so do systems. A system can be symbiotic with any particular headphone, or work against it, even when the specs say everything is compatible. For example, an HD 650 with a Bottlehead Crack makes it almost tolerable.

     

    I love my Grado GH4 and Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (Analytical pads), which I have compared to multi-kilobuck planars and electrostatics, and found nothing to envy. But I have a couple of different headphone systems, and each headphone excels in one situation. Josh thinks Grado and Beyerdynamic are too bright. Chacun a son gout, which is why I think this was a great article. There is no universal truth in audio. 

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    On 3/24/2024 at 8:19 PM, mitchco said:

    Love your article Josh! Some comments if you will.

     

    As @ecwl has pointed out, the equal loudness contour comes into play as folks listen at various sound pressure levels which impacts how much bass and to a certain degree, treble one is perceiving. In other words, tonal balance is affected by how loud or quiet one listens. For those that think the Harman curve is too much bass, it makes me wonder how loud folks are listening...

     

    I have yet to see any measurement rig that can measure over the ear headphones beyond 6 to 7 kHz due to the measurement being swamped with internal reflections between the headphone and ear due to the (short) wavelengths involved.

     

    Related to the above paragraph, I also wonder how accurate the measurements are wrt headphone positioning on the measurement rig. I don't know about others, but there is "sweet spot" when positioning headphones on ones' head and it takes some maneuvering to hit it precisely. This can have an impact not only tonal response but also soundstage.

     

    As a studio mixer, perhaps the requirements are slightly different as we are trying to make tonal eq and level decisions based on what we hear. So if the speakers/room or headphones are not neutral or colored in anyway, then we are making decisions that won't "translate" across a wide range of speakers and headphones.

     

    Relative to the above, I chose a different approach to measuring and eq'ing headphones. As one can see by looking at the individual headphones measurements, it is most certainly the Wild West when it comes to headphone frequency response. There have been headphones I have measured, that costs thousands of dollars but the frequency response is so bad, they can't even be eq'd. I would call them "broken" yet I have seen others verify my measurements and but seem to enjoy the sound. Sometimes one has to realize that statistically, 4% of the population have "tin ears." I wonder how many audio reviewers this applies to...

     

    Here are a couple of convolution filters I developed for the AKG K371 and Sennheiser HD560S, both popular inexpensive headphones, but I would argue sound more "neutral" with the convolution filters. What I mean by neutral is that no one frequency or range of frequencies sound less of more than any other range of frequencies. Please be sure to level match if comparing to no filter ;-) Enjoy!

     

    Keep up the great writings Josh!

     

    Sennheiser_HD560S_neutral_filterset.zip AKG_K371_neutral_filterset.zip

     

    The point about volume and equal-loudness contours is a good one. At least in this Harman study, the average playback level was set to 78 dB (b-weighted). I don't know how the level in the Harman study was measured or what that means in the context of dynamic music (especially since they were using dynamic songs like Steely Dan's "Cousin Dupree" as material). But based on my attempts, that seems low.

     

    I fired up "Cousin Dupree," put in my Moondropo Kato IEMs, brought the volume to a "normal" (for me) listening level, and measuriung it with both my 711 coupler and Dayton USB-C mini-microphone. I calibrated the former with an external calibrator, and the latter is calibrated by Dayton. On both, I was in the mid-to-upper 80s. When I lowered the level to 78 dB, it seemed too soft for "normal" listening, and I don't have any hearing loss (at least in the range tested by audiologists and the Etymotic home test system).

     

    Now, this could all be chalked up to my measurement process and the study's being totally incompatable. (Indeed, that seems more likely than them using "my" 78 dB.) But I'd love to actually hear how loud the music is in their IEM and headphone tests.

     

    EDIT: See below. I made a dumb mistake. The Harman study’s listening level seems great to me.

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    Josh, if you listen at those levels you will be buying audio equipment by looks alone at my age 70.

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    I was brought here by the discussion of your article on Audio Unleashed, though I've read and enjoyed many of your BVO articles. I largely agree with them and won't recapitulate their claims other than to say that the Harman curve is science, and is the best science that we have at the moment. That's not to say that there is no room for improvement.

     

    It gets hard to maintain the anonymity of the reviewer you are primarily criticizing, especially when you intersperse it with statements from another reviewer who is known to make far-reaching and categorical claims. So I'll just call the main reviewer you criticize A.

     

    I think you make some valid points, and I think A comes across as high-handed at times. But I generally agree with him and also think you're a little uncharitable in your interpretations of what he's saying. In at least one case I completely disagree with your characterization here: 'He argues that those consumers’ preferences have “no value” because they “don’t have critical listening abilities” and “will buy anything that... looks nice.”'

     

    He doesn't say that. When he says the argument has no value, he's responding to a particular person who argues that the Harman Curve is not scientifically validated because models that do not follow the Harman Curve are nonetheless successful (post #169). He's not saying that the consumer FR preferences have "no value." Elsewhere, he points out that other highly valued people have different FR preferences and that is fine (#593).

     

    More generally, I think you do A and his website a disservice in characterizing his hurly-burly responses in forum posts as the end-all be-all of A's opinions of what headphones should sound like. He's defending his commentary and recommendations from critics. But A's broader ethos in his reviews and his overall website is that you can take his subjective impressions and opinions on how things ought to be with a grain of salt. The measurements always take center stage in A's reviews. Even when he points out that his subjective experience differs from what would typically be imputed from his measurements, he usually caveats that that's just anecdotal and you can take it or leave it. The overwhelming value in A and his reviews is his presentation of the data coupled with reasonably clear explanations of how the data should be interpreted. Whether or not he ultimately recommends a product is largely beside the point.

     

    I also think there's a missing piece to this subject that warrant more consideration. The first is that hi-fi equipment generally should deliver flat response to our ears. Why is this the case? It's tautological. Hi-fi means high fidelity, the point is accurate recreation of the source. Engineers and producers want to provide a particular sound, but the only way to do that is with a consistent curve. For regular speakers, the most sensible curve is...flat. While an individual may want to tweak the sound to their preferences, this can only be accurately reproduced if the individual knows where the baseline is.

     

    This works for speakers, but there's a complication with headphones and IEMs, because flat response from the transducer doesn't sound anything like flat to the user, due to the extent that intimate speaker placement bypasses the effects of room and ear shape. Everybody's ears are different, so some kind of preference-based research is necessary to find the curve that most closely approximates the flat curve that speakers in a typical room are supposed to recreate, for the most people. That's what the Harman purports to do, and I agree with the Audio Unleashed folks that it seems to do its job very well.

     

    Where I probably agree with you more than A is that it's fine to have different headphones that don't adhere to Harman. EQ currently relies on exigencies that are not always available. It's particularly limited on iPhones and consoles, which account for many millions of listening hours. But really, they should make up the minority of available headphones and should be marketed to people who know how their preferences differ from Harman. A standard curve has plenty of value that goes beyond the individual listener, helping to prevent the "circle of confusion" problems that plague audio production.

     

    One thing I'd like to hear more about is the effect on FR and technicalities such as soundstage and imaging. There appears to be tradeoffs, where certain dips in midrange and emphasis in treble can enhance that experience while sounding less flat. Subjectively I get more soundstage from my 6XXs by changing the FR profile to match the HD800S, though for me the tradeoff is not worth it.

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    1 hour ago, shuppatsu said:

    For regular speakers, the most sensible curve is...flat. While an individual may want to tweak the sound to their preferences, this can only be accurately reproduced if the individual knows where the baseline is.

     

    This works for speakers, but there's a complication with headphones and IEMs, because flat response from the transducer doesn't sound anything like flat to the user

    The Harman curve was originally conceived for loudspeakers, and is definitely not flat. It slopes gradually from low to high frequencies.

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    9 minutes ago, audiobomber said:

    The Harmon curve was originally conceived for loudspeakers, and is definitely not flat. It slopes gradually from low to high frequencies.

    No. Specifically, check out page 60: "The measured frequency responses of the headphone targets correlate to and confirm listeners' descriptions of their sound quality.... The highest rated target curve in this study soon became known in the audio industry as the Harman target curve...."

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    1 hour ago, shuppatsu said:

    No. Specifically, check out page 60: "The measured frequency responses of the headphone targets correlate to and confirm listeners' descriptions of their sound quality.... The highest rated target curve in this study soon became known in the audio industry as the Harman target curve...."

    I believe the Harman Curve was based on the work of Floyd Toole at Canada's NRC, before he joined Harman.

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    25 minutes ago, audiobomber said:

    I believe the Harman Curve was based on the work of Floyd Toole at Canada's NRC, before he joined Harman.

    I'm confident that the Harman curve has always referred specifically to headphones, not loudspeakers. I'm less confident in what I had to say about how loudspeakers should be flat. It's complicated and my understanding is limited. Note that the room curve is different than the idealized anechoic on-axis curve, which is flat. When I wrote my response to Josh I was thinking we wanted it flat post-room rather than the unattainable anechoic. So there's something for me to chew on there.

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    Thanks for Erin's video, that was helpful.

     

    We'll have to agree to disagree on what A was getting at. I still think Amir's responses were valid, although he did get increasingly intemperate through the course of the 750-post thread (as one is wont to do). He was directly asked by the designer why people would buy that headphone even with a noncompliant curve. Amir gave reasons. Is it condescending to do so? Maybe, but if it's also true then that can't be helped, unless we want to sacrifice truth in the name of politesse.

     

    This is audiophilia. There's a lot of people making purchasing decisions based on factors that would disappear if that person had to evaluate the product unsighted. Maybe your line for what constitutes snake oil is different from A's, but just about everyone has a line. Because there are intelligent people who sincerely believe that they hear improvements from green pens on CDs, connecting radio shack clocks to their system, and audiophile ethernet switches (despite ethernet power being galvanically isolated). That's because even intelligent and sincere people are prone to all kinds of cognitive biases under sighted conditions.

     

    The idea that customers buying a product means that those customers prefer that tonality is the argument that A says has "no value," because of the various confounding factors related to sighted decisionmaking. But you say that A 'argues that those consumers’ preferences have “no value,”' and that A is saying that people with different preferences are 'a bunch of rubes' (emphasis added). You're conflating his opinion on the "75 million Elvis fans 8 people at CanJam can't be wrong" argument with his opinion of whether different people can have different preferences. He acknowledges that people can have different preferences (#228, #526). He's not saying people with different preferences are rubes. He's saying that there's value in having a standard that matches the preferred curve for a significant majority of people because a) that means the headphone will have correct tonality for a significant majority of people; b) circle of confusion issues; and c) it even helps people who have different preferences because it gives them a consistent starting point to tweak their sound.

     

    Again, I don't entirely agree with him because while EQing is "easy" at one's computer, it can be difficult in other contexts. But again I think the marketing should be upfront about the tonality.

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