Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 ShawnC, mkrzych and Sonicularity 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 Entire Tool catalog added to library at 24/96 pure PCM. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
ShawnC Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Finally! Listened to Maynard on the Joe Rogan Podcast earlier this week. He said they (Tool) were unaware or simply didn't care about what the hype was about streaming. Although he did say making band decisions or getting together to make a decision is like pulling teeth. Computer setup - Roon/Qobuz - PS Audio P5 Regenerator - HIFI Rose 250A Streamer - Emotiva XPA-2 Harbeth P3ESR XD - Rel R-528 Sub Comfy Chair - Schitt Jotunheim - Meze Audio Empyrean w/Mitch Barnett's Accurate Sound FilterSet Link to comment
smdb01us Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 It is also available on iTunes, not in high res, of course. I wonder if the remastered the albums in the process or just sampled them in high res? I purchased Undertow from Acoustic Sounds in 96/24 to compare against the ‘93 CD and vinyl. I didn’t get much time last night to do a full comparison but my first comment after sampling from a few songs was “wow, that CD sounds really good”. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
Rasalom Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 How is the sound quality of the HR compared to the CDs? Link to comment
smdb01us Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Well, if you are going to be super picky, and why wouldn’t we, I would say that the HR sounds better but not by much. Certainly passages you can hear a better instrument definition and perhaps clarity. I think it is worth to have. I just bought Undertow but also considering the whole collection. Link to comment
barrows Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Yeah, 24/96 DLs also available at HDTracks. 10000 Days definitely sounds different than the CD rip, must be a new mastering, but I have not done a direct comparison yet... SO/ROON/HQPe: DSD 512-Sonore opticalModuleDeluxe-Signature Rendu optical with Well Tempered Clock--DIY DSC-2 DAC with SC Pure Clock--DIY Purifi Amplifier-Focus Audio FS888 speakers-JL E 112 sub-Nordost Tyr USB, DIY EventHorizon AC cables, Iconoclast XLR & speaker cables, Synergistic Purple Fuses, Spacetime system clarifiers. ISOAcoustics Oreas footers. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | Accessories | Software | Link to comment
bobbmd Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 @The Computer Audiophile hi chris what are you referring to in 'streaming tool in high resolution!'? Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 The band name is Tool 😁 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobbmd Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 OMG am I out of touch !! thanks The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
mkrzych Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Looking at the DR loudness database for Lateralus and Aenima they are pretty much similar in dynamics to the original CD versions. Lateralus has slightly better dynamics, but it's just a wee. How does it sound in high resolution guys, anyone could check and post the spectogram to see if those 24/96 files are legit please? -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
mkrzych Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 another thing is that downloads don't have booklets of course :-( Undertow is different in DR than the original CD more than other albums. -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
mkrzych Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 There is a discussion of course of SH forum: https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/tool-planning-to-remaster-and-reissue-all-of-their-albums-for-vinyl-release.689866/page-24#post-21800705 It seems that the most improvement people are hearing on Lateralus. Also looking at the spectrogram those files are rather legit. -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
grs113 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Thanks Krzysztof, I'm a Tool fan, but I lamented the original CD releases were not the best examples for dynamic range. With each release, you could hear and see (through spectral analysis) the increasing use of multiband compression to increase perceived loudness. It would be nice if the 24 bit remasters could be given more dynamic range to increase the impact of the drums and the edge of the guitars, but the DR numbers I've seen thus far don't look promising. :( Link to comment
mkrzych Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 hours ago, grs113 said: Thanks Krzysztof, I'm a Tool fan, but I lamented the original CD releases were not the best examples for dynamic range. With each release, you could hear and see (through spectral analysis) the increasing use of multiband compression to increase perceived loudness. It would be nice if the 24 bit remasters could be given more dynamic range to increase the impact of the drums and the edge of the guitars, but the DR numbers I've seen thus far don't look promising. Indeed, numbers are not so much promising (though it's just numbers ;-) - Aenima is the most dynamic I guess. Haven't checked 10000 Days, but from the spectral analysis I've seen to the latter one it should be legit. grs113 1 -- Krzysztof Maj http://mkrzych.wordpress.com/ "Music is the highest form of art. It is also the most noble. It is human emotion, captured, crystallised, encased… and then passed on to others." - By Ken Ishiwata Link to comment
Sonicularity Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I was so busy with work that I had missed this one until I opened Qobuz today in Roon and saw a couple of HiRes albums at the top of the list. Woo hoo! Link to comment
ShawnC Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 https://apple.news/AlhIIER37Tu-CZEWZKi8LcQ Not sure if this link worked. Just some stats on Tool’s record breaking streaming debut. Computer setup - Roon/Qobuz - PS Audio P5 Regenerator - HIFI Rose 250A Streamer - Emotiva XPA-2 Harbeth P3ESR XD - Rel R-528 Sub Comfy Chair - Schitt Jotunheim - Meze Audio Empyrean w/Mitch Barnett's Accurate Sound FilterSet Link to comment
cjf Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Being a huge Tool fan myself this post/news is of real interest to me. I own all of their Albums in Redbook currently. This is one of those bands to me that I enjoy the content so much that I've been willing to ignore the fact that they compressed the hell out of all their Albums short of Undertow which was by far their best sounding work. I'm not optimistic that these HiRez versions will be any different in terms of their DR values but it sure would be nice if they were. If it turns out my skepticism is wrong I would purchase the whole catalog again in 24/96 without a second thought. Maybe some brave soul who already made the leap of faith will be kind enough to post up the numbers of these HiRez releases for the communities viewing pleasure? grs113 1 My Audio System -Last Updated May 20 2021 Link to comment
barrows Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 The DR values are pretty much the same. If a DR number is all you care about then I would suggest not bothering.OTOH, most are reporting that they prefer the sonics of the new masterings. So far I have only listened to 10,000 Days, and I prefer the new version. I will DL Lateralus sometime soon for sure. Oh, and the analysis I have seen shows that these are legit Hi Res and not upsampled from 44.1 redbook masters. grs113 1 SO/ROON/HQPe: DSD 512-Sonore opticalModuleDeluxe-Signature Rendu optical with Well Tempered Clock--DIY DSC-2 DAC with SC Pure Clock--DIY Purifi Amplifier-Focus Audio FS888 speakers-JL E 112 sub-Nordost Tyr USB, DIY EventHorizon AC cables, Iconoclast XLR & speaker cables, Synergistic Purple Fuses, Spacetime system clarifiers. ISOAcoustics Oreas footers. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | Accessories | Software | Link to comment
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